Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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honestly, i don't know how difficult it is to fake all these transactions. but it would seem that you'd have to at least have thousands of fake wallets?

if they did, it was a pretty complicated scheme with thousands of fake buyers. like, on that shitpic i posted just above, there are dozens of offers from different accounts on it, already. here's one of the accounts that's made an offer - https://opensea.io/techboss - techboss has 6 NFTs and has been on opensea since oct 2021.

again, beats me, maybe it's easy to create a bunch of fake accounts to make it look like a bunch of different people actually bought them. but if they did, then it seems like an unusual level of competence for either trump or the grifters to make these accounts that look like they've had authentic shitty taste in investments for over a year now

it would be not very hard to do it if you wanted to, wash trading is basically what nfts are for, whether wanted to or not who knows, maybe they sold some and bought the rest idk

assuming that theres scamming going on with nfts is a very safe bet tho

i mean who did the technical part of making the nfts probably an established nft entity aka a scammer

definitely wouldn't surprise me if that's the case. the chances of "trump nfts were a money laundering scheme" happening is very high and approaches 100% in the long-term

trump nfts were a money laundering scheme requires no scare quotes, just a fact

its not hard for me to believe that there are plenty of shady international pols & oligarchs eager for a simple way to pass along a 7-figure bribe to the trump org

my guess would be the fraud is all on the nft guys side, trump org prob played it straight its just not their area of expertise

the confounding factor here is that it's probably both. i believe there are at _least_ 45,000 people who would be more than happy to give donald trump $99 for tacky photoshops, and also that there are many people who can use this as a vehicle for fraud. the former group provide very good cover for the latter.

in a somewhat tortuous way, it reminds me of the meadows texts that came out recently and also televangelists and the people who give money to them, where it's unsettling to see so many people in that orbit appearing to legitimately believe that the total bullshit. whether they actually believe it or not, as long as they give the appearance of a true believer they provide the cover to the ones doing the crimes

Took me a moment to realise Trump is not wedgie-ing himself in that gold-tinted pic above.

is it reasonable to think that a perhaps not insignificant percentage of the cards were purchased as gag gifts?

"Generational wealth" LOL

if this was a legitimate sell-out, you know that Series II is being created right now... you gotta keep grifting until the marks move on

sure but they're $99, that's kind of a big chunk of change for most people

I mean look I agree with KM there are a lot of morons out there willing to chuck money at Trump I'm just saying I have a hard time believing very many of them are interested in NFTs or even know what they are. and it's not like he doesn't have every conceivable type of merchandise out there already

however one thing I am learning via the discussion on this is that there do seem to be at least some people who bought these without knowing what they really were and are now tweeting at the official account wondering "how do I access this thing"

As someone pointed out, the entire collection is worth less than $4.5 million. Will it appreciate? Doubtful. This is hardly the stuff of "generational wealth."

holy shit there's one of him wearing a yarmulke at the Wailing Wall:

https://i.seadn.io/gcs/files/42f04a4f20f57ebce2366ef3e684a2ae.jpg

Errr, the Western Wall is a more appropriate name I just learned

if this was a legitimate sell-out, you know that Series II is being created right now

https://frinkiac.com/video/S05E05/TwB3-84Zl5Olm0RtNXX4TC-jg4g=.gif

Also wanna point out it’s a pretty common Republican tactic to use donor money to buy thousands of copies of their own books so idiots like Rubio and Don Jr. can be “best selling authors”. Just saying this shit is already in the playbook

It's interesting to see the slight variations to make each one 'exclusive'.. a little change in the background, a camo cap instead of red, etc. I almost wonder if they used some kind of AI to make every possible variation of every single pose:

https://opensea.io/0xfb65415Ca83B69DA9bC56B4C9C2334fa402baCd7?tab=collected

the super saiyan trick

I'm guessing one of the people buying the max was Don Jr. trying to win that one-on-one dinner with Dad

The AI has a slimming effect

I guess that's supposed to be a hunter's stand in the background, but it sure as hell looks like a Gulag watchtower:

https://i.seadn.io/gcs/files/f2cf1a9876c6997182799a5e9d5e38b2.jpg

They should sell Mr. Potato Head Trumps that you could swap out limbs and outfits for.

They should reboot the "Ernest Goes to ... " movies with Trump. Was there an "Ernest goes to Washington"?

Action Jackson Trump

The AI has a slimming effect

It's also embiggened his hands!

Reportedly "the Jan. 6 committee will vote Monday on a subcommittee recommendation to refer *at least* three criminal charges against Trump — including for USC 2383, insurrection. Two others: 1512c obstruction and 371 conspiracy to defraud the US."

Also: "House Ways and Means announces closed meeting next week where they are expected to discuss — for the first time — Trump’s tax returns that they have obtained after years of court battles. It’s unclear how the committee plans to handle it."

The correct thing to do would be for ways and means to issue the tax returns as NFTs.

i do love this answer tbh lol

He looks like how Ben Garrison draws him which has me wondering if he was involved somehow lol.

I haven't known any hunters in a long time, I wonder if hunting gear actually looks that tacticool now. Those are some high speed low drag overalls.

Um, just catching up, 45,000 is not by any means a large number in pretty much any context when it comes to # people (esp since the 45 virus is to an extent worldwide, not US only)?

That x people should do a specific daft thing is surely only remarkable if x has I dunno seven digits or more, maybe eight?

I mean (and I choose this team at complete random) the Lansing Lugnuts at the high-A level of Minor League Baseball: how many unique spectators (ie not counting repeats) do they draw in the course of a season? I have no idea, but baulking at 45K doing a Dumb Thing seems somewhat in need of calibration.

I see it could come across that way: No shade intended at the Lugnuts!

Gonna have to push back as no one chooses Lugnuts at complete random! This has been proven by probability science. Also, everyone who attends Lugnuts games did a fantastic job, I wish I were there with them at every game, let’s go Nuts

Xp too late! The Lugs are going to be playing angry this year

45k is not a big number... much to think about

I bow to your greater sagacity and will carefully reconsider my positions, users Karl Malone and lag∞n. I have also acquired an otherwise unexplainable urge to travel to Michigan, United States of America, for the viewing of non-superhero-level baseball. This is a thing I have never actually seen.

(45k is not a big number)

its a big number for some things and not for others, its wild actually

It's no 45 billion, that's for sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J9MRYJz9-4

If I look at a video of a Trump rally and think about those people in relation to knowing what an NFT is, 45,000 seems like a lot.

I still disagree. It is a small number. Sorry to be a pest.

Elon Musk you really are quite funny, you sir have won the internet today, please buy me this Lansing Lugnuts hoodie

https://www.duened.com/milb-store-lansing-lugnuts-baseball-shir?prop%5Bcolor%5D=red&prop%5Bsize%5D=&product=31&item=1010064990&side=front

is there anything trump could organically sell 45k of in one day just by dropping an infomercial, what would be the best selling thing he could do it with a book maybe, would that sell 45k first day with no press nowhere to buy it except one website idk maybe im thinking probably not tho, what if the website was more complicated to buy things from than most sites, theres a ton of trump books already theres an insane amount of trump crap all the hardcore fans have a lot of it and are receiving constant calls to buy more many from trump himself, now are nfts considerably less desirable than any number of trump crap items absolutely yes, the digital pictures are not popular, but they are maybe the most fraudulent industry in the world, all that considered i feel comfortable in saying that those 45k nft did not really by any normal definition sell out

is there anything trump could organically sell 45k of in one day just by dropping an infomercial

Of course. 45000 is a small number. What the hell is difficult about this concept??

I just don't get it, apparently. Maybe it is I who should get an order-of-magnitude recalibration course, or something.

one thing you could do is instead of being all *extremely nerds voice* based on first principles 45k is a small number you could look into how much of things is a lot to sell then try to figure out if that thing is similar to trump nfts

Fair. Ish. I didn't entirely get that your point was about the number of sales*; I thought it was about the number of weirdos**.

*) The last book I co-wrote sold about 700 including a few mandatory for national library etc. My co-writer has a garage full of the remaining 1300 or something.
**) in which case I believe I am right, regardless of nerdvoice register I apparently use. Apologies again; it's a fine line between being clear and being hectoring.

would that sell 45k first day with no press nowhere to buy it except one website

It was all anyone was talking about the day of the announcement.

74 million Trump voters, plus who knows how many other Trump fans, plus anyone who might be disposed to buy one of these just to flip it, plus anyone who might be disposed to buy one on a lark. This is the context in which 45,000 is a not implausible number of people* who might be willing and able to buy a Trump NFT.

*I don't think it was literally 45,000 people, since people bought multiples. Say 45,000 sincere purchases.