Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Kraken 2: Release the Crappin'

Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link

I mean, I don't know, the story says he'll need to be fingerprinted and processed like anyone else. I suppose he could blow it off, but I can't imagine the state being cool with him doing that.

In related wheels-of-justice news:

THREAD: What should we make of the Chief Judge's ruling that DOJ prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Trump attorney Evan Corcoran?

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 17, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

The stormy is coming...

BrianB, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

I mean nothing came of it when this dude stole classified documents, extorted the president of Ukraine, and tried to overthrow the government, I can't imagine this being anything but a very minor convenience

frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

he was impeached for the Ukraine thing!

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

yeah he got to spend 2 weeks chilling in the White House fundraising and crying witch hunt while everyone else in Congress had to work 12 hour days pretending there was actually a sliver of a chance he'd get removed from office

frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link

the sepublican senators showed tremendous integrity and courage during that second impeachment

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link

sepublican

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link

Maybe not coincidence this is the 30 year anniversary of Branch Davidian siege near Waco. https://t.co/HfSz2X8REG

— Patrick W. Watson (@PatrickW) March 17, 2023

Messiah complex? ✔️

Likes underage girls? ✔️

Pro-gun? ✔️

Doesn't play guitar, but Ivanka does ✔️

I mean nothing came of it when this dude stole classified documents

Isn't this Corcoran thing directly about the documents?

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Saturday, 18 March 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link

Yeah. Classified docs stuff still very much in play. There's a special prosecutor who is still actively special prosecuting!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

he seems fine

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link

His rants scan like mistranslated North Korean propaganda.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link

Or maybe the opening scroll from a cheap straight to VHS post-apocalyptic movie.

Wait, "former" president?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link

Anarchists have stollen? Lucky anarchists.

https://www.daringgourmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Stollen-2-square-edited.jpg

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

Ok reading those truth social posts maybe something is gonna happen

frogbs, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

Not if we take our nation back!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

its kinda funny and pretty dicey that this is the thing hes going to get tried for cause paying someone to shut up isnt against the law its done all the time instead theyre making the argument that paying her was for the benefit of his campaign and therefor violated campaign laws which is not a particularly common way of thinking about things, youd think if you were going to arrest the ex pres youd want to do it for something rock solid

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

Most likely Trump's attorneys were told by the Manhattan DA's office that an indictment would likely issue early next week and that he would need to surrender on Tuesday and appear in court.

That would not be an "arrest" but Trump is trying to dramatize this for his supporters. https://t.co/DN4bYLhkCM

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 18, 2023

Anyway, this may just be the tip of the iceberg. There's little doubt he's committed numerous crimes in numerous ways in numerous states. That's never really been in question. The issue has been prosecution, which, go figure, only really ramped up once he was out of office. Though not least because several of his crimes (Georgia, January 6, classified docs) were committed on the way out.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

His rants scan like mistranslated North Korean propaganda.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 bookmarkflaglink

It's actually purely American in its levels of delusion about the best country in the world. With a bunch of racism.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 March 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link

its kinda funny and pretty dicey that this is the thing hes going to get tried for cause paying someone to shut up isnt against the law its done all the time instead theyre making the argument that paying her was for the benefit of his campaign and therefor violated campaign laws which is not a particularly common way of thinking about things, youd think if you were going to arrest the ex pres youd want to do it for something rock solid

― lag∞n, Saturday, March 18, 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Cohen’s already gone to jail for this, so maybe that sets a precedent. But I agree—this seems dicier than the Georgia election fraud case but I am no lawyer.

treeship., Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

They just want to get him in court and talking so he'll confess to 7 other things during one of his rants

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link

I think that's probably right, and it's the area where in the past he might have been savvier, but I think he'll say all kinds of nonsense under oath now

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

He'll probably just keep pleading the fifth, which is one reason this stuff keeps getting dragged out. But the ongoing Stormy Daniels thing specifically seems to have been drawn out due to prosecutorial foot dragging; it was always weird that Cohen did time for a crime committed at the behest of the asshole that did not go to jail, but again, don't underestimate the dampening effect of Trump being president. The second he was out of office all this shit started ramping up. He's been in and will be in court for all sorts of stuff for the foreseeable future, even if he'll never see the inside of a jail cell, though he's such a POS there is ample potential for him to finally cross some red line and get himself in even more serious legal jeopardy. He's a perma-perp. He can't help it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

That Trump tweet (or whatever they're called on Truth Social) above very reminiscent of Wire's "Reuters": "This is your correspondent, running out of tape, gunfire's increasing, looting, burning, rape."

clemenza, Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

A good minithread from someone who keeps regular tabs on this stuff

For those asking, so far there's scattered anger but no concrete plan on Trump forums for his potential arrest on Tuesday.

So far it's:
1—Users urging DeSantis not to be like "Judas Pence" and hand him over
2—Random, rote calls for Civil War if it happens

I'll keep you updated.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 18, 2023

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

Judas Pence was more into leather

what do you think the ?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwtWgBhDhARIsAEMcxeC6PoXcXx-B0xxVmos44bIkuAcxm6q9f5aZpv6Tqk0vbiTyBGAxS6UaArVqEALw_wcB#!/ENQpnoy6A-BgHK0zZBk1 bit means

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

I literally have no idea, why don't you tell me? I was just trying to find a way to embed my generated video.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link

My new band concept is heavy metal covers of songs about coins ("Penny Lane," "Three Coins in a Fountain," "Here's a Quarter, Call Someone Who Cares," "Brother, Can you Spare a Dime?,"and selections from the Threepenny Opera).

I am calling it Judas Pence

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link

Google Click ID (GCLID) is a parameter passed in the URL with ad clicks, to identify the campaign and other attributes of the click associated with the ad for ad tracking and campaign attribution. In Google Ads, this is enabled by turning on the auto-tagging setting. It’s required for Google Ads website conversion tracking and also used to link data between Google Ads and Google Analytics. It can also be used in conjunction with features like offline conversion tracking.

rob, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

Huh. What does that mean? That the link generates ad revenue?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

Sad Wings of Desantisy

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

I suspect his supporters know the arrest is the point: the final act of martyrdom. It will be a glorious day for'em.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

It means you can just delete everything from the ? onwards

https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/

groovypanda, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

if *we* can barely figure out what he's being prosecuted for in nyc, imagine how it will seem to, like, normal people. which will make his claims that this is a political prosecution resonate.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link

Perhaps it will be easier to figure out when there's an actual indictment.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

what if it just says "cheeto man bad" tho then what

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

It means you can just delete everything from the ? onwards

Yeah, but that would only get someone to the site's homepage with the template, not the thing I generated. When I click on the messy link I pasted it takes me to the thing I generated.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link

He's been/being prosecuted for lots of things in NY, iirc, but this one seems pretty simple (if relatively minor, compared to classified docs and GA): using campaign funds to pay out hush money. Right?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

I mean who gives a fuck what Trump supporters or libertarians et al think, they would think the same thing if he was arrested eating a child on TV. You don't base these moves on whether people will like them.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

Republicans don't mind doing things that enrage 200 million people daily.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

yeah, all, move to Florida, join Neanderthal and me for Negronis

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

Probably next on DeSantis's chopping block.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link

Wokegronis

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

D'oh, too late

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

I mean who gives a fuck what Trump supporters or libertarians et al think, they would think the same thing if he was arrested eating a child on TV. You don't base these moves on whether people will like them.

i agree that maga idiots will never change their minds, it doesn't matter. however, it's kind of infuriating that he could tell everyone he was going to try to steal the election, for months, lose the election and immediately try to steal it in several different states, openly, blatantly, with a loudhorn, using a stupidass legal theory that everyone knew was complete bullshit from the beginning, told everyone to come to march on the capitol and steal it for him, and was perfectly fine with letting white supremacists lead and organize the violence. and then what he gets indicted for is some hush payment on sleeping with the four thousandth person who wasn't his wife, and something which everyone already knew about before the election, something he's already done many times while everyone looked the other way, and had long since forgotten about since there were so many other things he openly did.

it's cool and whatever but hundreds of thousands of people unnecessarily died because of him, and that was for something that he won't even be prosecuted for, and something for which everyone has already totally forgiven and forgotten. i guess i'm glad if he goes down over some bullshit but it's hard not to feel like everything is just...absurdly upside-down.

i do want to note that i'm so glad michael avenatti already fucked off

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link

I think the specific arrest day came from Asshole contacting the prosecutors and receiving “C U Next Tuesday” as a reply

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link


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