BABY DRIVER (2017) aka, the Edgar Wright/Ansel Elgort/Kevin Spacey/Jamie Foxx pop-song-and-car-chase Walter Hill homage(?)

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I haven't seen this yet, and I'm not sure I have forgiven Wright for the vile Scott Pilgrim yet, but this did solid B.O. over the weekend, which is downright amazing for a non-franchise summer release. Reviews have been glowing. Thoughts?

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

it's fine.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

in more words: great supporting cast (esp Foxx and Hamm), the pathos and romance didn't really land for me (really doesn't help that Lily Collins is more of a MPDG than anyone in Scott Pilgrim was) but it's fun and clever. an extra 15-20 minutes (aka Hot Fuzz length) or jettisoning the romance could have done it a world of good.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:43 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Intrigued by this new tinnitus cure, "listen to everything incredibly loudly forever", don't know why I haven't tried that

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 3 July 2017 17:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

hahaha

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:52 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'm glad you started this -- I was about to...

Tremendous fun. I'm in love with Ansel Elgort and his sunglasses and skinny jeans. First-rate editing and casting (Spacey's best work in many years, close to Hamm and Fox's best0.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

My idea of a smart summer blockbuster, I guess.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Elgort dancing to "Harlem Shuffle" while getting coffee >>>>>>> all of Drive

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It was great fun but I think the handful of five-star reviews I skimmed beforehand led me to expect more. Not sure there's a huge amount of depth to it, but I'd have to watch again to be sure.

chap, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i liked the romance, it felt very sweet and genuine. I'd be much more inclined to cut the scene in the diner digging into Foxx and Hamm's backstories, neither of those characters was interesting even though Hamm was fun to watch.

the opening scene and really the first half-hour or so are so dazzling, I wish that kind of goofy spirit could have been maintained throughout, the film turns more and more generic the longer it plays.

evol j, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

let me be the first to say that

SPOIIIIILLLLLLEEEERRRR

Spacey's third-act turn didn't work for me, and was the sort of thing I'd like to have seen a little groundwork laid down for (I don't think the scene with the nephew suffices)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i enjoyed this. opening car chase was one of the best I've seen

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

some of the most inept movie cops I've ever seen tho

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It's suggested that Spacey has a crush on Baby; he gives him a couple once-overs.

The nephew's one of the few recent plausible smart aleck movie kids. I did roll my eyes at the insistence on Baby's innocence (the nursing home scene at the end almost belted me out of the theater).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:19 (eleven months ago) Permalink

more like Edgar Wrong

more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I liked the way Foxx (or was it Hamm?) undercuts Baby's supposed innocence by pointing out that he didn't say word one about them endangering civilians until Debora showed up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:28 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'm a little surprised folks seem to be mostly OK with Debora being such a thin character who mostly just waits around for Baby to show up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

She bored me. I liked how she apparently doesn't own a cell phone.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'm in love with Ansel Elgort and his sunglasses and skinny jeans.

My husband is too, which is why I am anticipating a rare (for us) trip to the cinema for this one.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yeah she was a cipher pretty much

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

the opening scene and really the first half-hour or so are so dazzling, I wish that kind of goofy spirit could have been maintained throughout, the film turns more and more generic the longer it plays.

this is an endemic problem with scriptwriting. it's much easier to be creative in your setup than in your resolution. life would be more rewarding for writers if audiences didn't demand resolutions in the third act, but were satisfied with a full exposition of unresolved complications.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I have long accepted that I am always going to love the set-up of a pop entertainment movie more than the resolution. It is why I was able to enjoy the goofy final-act revelation in Get Out, to pick the most recent example.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yeah she was a cipher pretty much

tbh romance has never been Wright's strong suit. he's much better at dealing with friendships.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The scene with Hamm in the diner in the last third was excellent.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I like Edgar Wright a lot, but there is nothing about this that looks remotely appealing to me. It seems like a parody of some post Tarantino 90's movie, except by most accounts it's not a comedy?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It's hilarious in spots. I don't often laugh watching movies.

Also, Wright is way more fun than Refn and Tarantino.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

"Romance has never been Wright's strong suit" is the most charitable way to possibly account for the toxicity of Scott Pilgrim (though I'm assuming the source material is largely to blame as well), but that's another movie and another discussion.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Like, is it really another one last job ensemble heist movie?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The movie's at the service of the soundtrack, I might argue, but Wright's such a shrewd editor that Elgort moves with way more grace than Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone ever did in LLL.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

"Romance has never been Wright's strong suit" is the most charitable way to possibly account for the toxicity of Scott Pilgrim

yes Scott Pilgrim has its own thread, but I would add that SP (which I recently rewatched) contains about 10,000 references to its main character being an asshole which really helps

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I kept thinking this must have been an exacting nightmare to edit but I'm sure Wright was slick enough to make it as easy as possible

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I think the main reason the movie disappointed me (even though I really enjoyed it for the most part) is the trailer made me think more of the film would be Baby and his love interest escaping his former life rather than it being tacked on at the very end.

some other details too bothered me, like why the corrupt cop gunrunners wouldn't first disarm the people they were planning to sell to.

this movie is v much not grounded in reality but v much a universe that exists only in crime movies (and it's a good thing in this case cos grounding woulda sunk this one fast).

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

it's a good thing in this case cos grounding woulda sunk this one fast).

and yet Baby likes the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

funny to see Sky Ferriera play Baby's mom, I can't recall if she had any dialogue but I guess for whatever reason it was important to Wright that the woman singing on the MOM tape was the same one actually playing the character.

evol j, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

One of the things I really like about Wright's movies and screenplays is how they tend to be strongly anchored by an actual moral, without ever feeling overdetermined or po-faced about it (being really funny helps). This keeps him in sharp contrast to his snarky/nihilistic, heavily postmodern peers. You could argue that "passivity is tantamount to complicity" is the moral to BD but the love story gets in the way of that and undercuts that strength a bit. (I should stress again that I liked this, it's just my least fave of his features.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

an awful lot of fatal car accidents happen in movies while people are driving and arguing simultaneously

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:51 (eleven months ago) Permalink

also did I miss it, but why did Spacey talk about how he never uses the same crew twice other than Baby and then he re-uses Hamm and Gonzalez again 30 minutes later?

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:56 (eleven months ago) Permalink

or did he just mean "exact configuration" i.e. Batts was subbed in for Griff so that = "new crew" even tho it was only 25% diff

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:56 (eleven months ago) Permalink

also did I miss it, but why did Spacey talk about how he never uses the same crew twice other than Baby and then he re-uses Hamm and Gonzalez again 30 minutes later?

― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal)

would you ever work with Flea again?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

or did he just mean "exact configuration" i.e. Batts was subbed in for Griff so that = "new crew" even tho it was only 25% diff

this is how I took it.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:01 (eleven months ago) Permalink

First half great

Second half shit

Scott Pilgrim is a perfect, incredible movie.

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:02 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I really wish the MIchael Myers mask thing hadn't been in the trailer cos it woulda been a lot funnier just showing up cold mid-movie

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:03 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I feel like blind foster dad shoulda been like "dude I am already not ok with u robbin shit but at least if yr gonna do i can I like benefit from it and live somewhere decent"

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Every character in this is a cipher fyi

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I kind of expected that going in tho

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

this wasn't too horribly different from Driver other than I feel like this was a better movie and Gosling's character liked to use stealth rather than do doughnuts on the highway

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:09 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It was transporter more than driver but it isn't as subtle or as adult in its themes or relationships as transporter

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Monday, 3 July 2017 19:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Wished the movie kept up the energy of the first half hour but whatcanyado. It was still a fun watch

Vinnie, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 03:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Is it named after the Simon & Garfunkel song?

Guidonian Handsworth Revolution (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 03:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Yes! Hence his hotness.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:22 (four months ago) Permalink

ewwww

Adam Driver >>>>>> Baby Driver

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:27 (four months ago) Permalink

Ann Hornaday nails Wright's Achilles heel: "self satisfaction." A master craftsman like Spielberg is never in showoff mode like this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/movies/in-baby-driver-gunplay-and-car-chases-are-choreographed-with-skintight-precision/2017/06/27/510b09e4-5a68-11e7-a9f6-7c3296387341_story.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Would u stop

Smugberg

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:58 (four months ago) Permalink

don't make me accelerate and impale you!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:00 (four months ago) Permalink

baby driver: it’s no hook, raves ilx’s spielgeirbot’

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:01 (four months ago) Permalink

or Road House, bengazzara

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:02 (four months ago) Permalink

He jabs, he dances away, jabs again

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:06 (four months ago) Permalink

itt: morbs reveals his belief that ilxor poster bizarro gazzara is, in fact, deceased cassavetes favourite ben gazzara irl

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:06 (four months ago) Permalink

he’s got me bang to rights guys

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:07 (four months ago) Permalink

who's Peter Falk on ILX

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:11 (four months ago) Permalink

sorry guys, i fell asleep in the middle of bizzie's last post

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:28 (four months ago) Permalink

guys this is tearing us apart, can't we get back to talking about how this film that the populace loved is secretly undeserving of its praise

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:31 (four months ago) Permalink

reminds me of Cynthia Nixon's seizures in A Quiet Passion

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:38 (four months ago) Permalink

After I saw this and liked it so much, I asked my spouse if I would enjoy Fast and Furious movies. He said no.

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:40 (four months ago) Permalink

fast five is a masterpiece tbh

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:43 (four months ago) Permalink

has B G has been on't mushrooms again?

calzino, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:45 (four months ago) Permalink

The Furious movies are fun

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:06 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah try Fast Five yerac. It's not the same sort of thing at all (for one, it knows how silly it is, but plays deadpan rather than Baby Driver's po-faced), but if one of them's going to work for you, it'll be that one

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:02 (four months ago) Permalink

He said Baby Driver was cheekier and I probably liked it because there was sparse dialogue and music that was more my jam. Supposedly Tokyo Drift is the best? (assuming I don't need to start at the beginning for back story).

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:08 (four months ago) Permalink

how about other films about tinnitus?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:09 (four months ago) Permalink

scott pilgrim rules, so does this movie (kevin spacey's last)

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:12 (four months ago) Permalink

Tokyo Drift is standalone

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:13 (four months ago) Permalink

tokyo drift features one of the worst lead performances i’ve ever seen in a motion picture, and the best character from it shows up in a major role in fast five, so go for fast five imo

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:19 (four months ago) Permalink

One thing about Kevin Spacey is that at least I discovered Difficult People because of the reel of all the Spacey insults.

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:20 (four months ago) Permalink

I watched Wonder Woman, Atomic Blonde, Baby Driver and the beginning of Snatched on the plane on Friday? Disclaimer: I took a xanax and had drunk a lot of wine (activation) because I hate flying so much. I got weepy during WW, fell asleep during the middle of Atomic Blonde and loved Baby Driver. Maybe I do need to rewatch to make sure it was as surprisingly awesome as I remember.

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:23 (four months ago) Permalink

Watch snatch imo

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:31 (four months ago) Permalink

Atomic Blonde sucked, totally drab & boooooring

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:45 (four months ago) Permalink

IT ALSO HAD A GOOD SOUNDTRACK.

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:50 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was confused when I woke up but people looked attractively put together.

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:51 (four months ago) Permalink

I would avoid the boring cut of Atomic Blonde, the one I saw was pretty great.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:54 (four months ago) Permalink

Watch snatch imo


never do this

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:57 (four months ago) Permalink

i can see baby driver being an absolutely a+ airplane movie

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:07 (four months ago) Permalink

hence a C movie in appropriate settings

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:10 (four months ago) Permalink

Hmm. Movies I've seen on airplanes: Class Action, King Ralph, Entrapment...yeah, it'll do.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:18 (four months ago) Permalink

Atomic Blonde sucked, totally drab & boooooring

― flappy bird, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 3:45 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for once I agree with flappy

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:16 (four months ago) Permalink

scott pilgrim rules, so does this movie (kevin spacey's last)

It definitely felt like a valedictory performance; I was very moved.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:32 (four months ago) Permalink

he died as he lived, being ambiguously creepy & controlling over pretty young men

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:19 (four months ago) Permalink

not as good as The Blues Brothers

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:24 (four months ago) Permalink

how about other films about tinnitus?

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 23, 2018 8:09 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Noise is better than this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=4u8KxEf4A3M

mor frog bs (S-), Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:37 (four months ago) Permalink

Doesn't Sly have tinnitus in Cop Land?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2018 04:05 (four months ago) Permalink

one punctured or ruptured ear drum iirc

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 25 January 2018 07:24 (four months ago) Permalink

loss of hearing due to years of listening to Harvey Keitel yelling

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:22 (four months ago) Permalink

that reminds me, i've been meaning to ask for a while if non-uk ilxors are aware of harvey keitel's embarrassing reprisal of the character of winston wolf in a series of godawful ads for insurance which have been running for a few years in the ol' blighty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRTSd-ppQFQ

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:28 (four months ago) Permalink

wow

flappy bird, Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:39 (four months ago) Permalink

Oh shit they didn't...

They didn't know

i,CloudiOS (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 January 2018 18:55 (four months ago) Permalink

lol my thoughts exactly

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:26 (four months ago) Permalink


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