BABY DRIVER (2017) aka, the Edgar Wright/Ansel Elgort/Kevin Spacey/Jamie Foxx pop-song-and-car-chase Walter Hill homage(?)

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Once you get past what, at the time, I assume was the newness of the car chases in Bullitt and The French Connection, how do you tell if a car chase is good? They just cut the same impossibilities together ever faster and faster, louder and louder.

clemenza, Monday, 4 September 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

staging has a lot to do with it. I felt like the first chase in Baby Driver was one of the best I'd seen recently.

Neanderthal, Monday, 4 September 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

shoulda just made the movie a 90 minute chase. kinda like that shit movie Kidnap but like instead, good.

Neanderthal, Monday, 4 September 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

zoe bell's stunt work in death proof comes to mind as for as good recent chases

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 4 September 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

should also include the infamous stock Troma car crash footage

Neanderthal, Monday, 4 September 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

Car chases in this were told, and first one yes particularly so

You can tell if a car chase is good if you enjoy it. How dyou judge ice cream ffs.

Zoe bells stunt work in deathproof is not remembered in my house but every other excruciating moment she spent on camera will never be forgiven

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

Car chase in the seven ups btw.

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

clem's right that the last half hour is a travesty, and I can't stand the way female love interests are used in these films, but the first 70 minutes are a knockout. So is Ansel Elgort, who's a screen presence of odd passivity.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 September 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

Everything through iirc the restaurant is tickety boo, if it's not all exceptional then the imagination on show and elgort certainly carry it so

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

This film was ok, some good parts, a lot of dumb parts. I enjoyed Hamm and Foxx, thought Baby was a bit of a d-bag. Lily James reminded me of young Madchen Amick, and she worked in a diner!

Also, there wasn't a Stereolab song in this.

Moodles, Monday, 4 September 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link

Meant to mention how much she reminded me of Madchen Amick. Enough so that when I looked up her credits, I discovered I haven't seen her in anything else despite feeling sure I had.

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

This movie was mediocre 10 years after the fact when mediocre would have sufficed.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 01:15 (six years ago) link

wow, this movie really did suck

Dan I., Friday, 15 September 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link

They must really teach those "Fame" dance moves to all the kids at LaGuardia High School!

Dan I., Friday, 15 September 2017 02:56 (six years ago) link


On a separate note, Kevin Spacey is, and always has been, a very poor actor. In many ways as bad as John Malkovich.

― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2017 22:20 (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow, are you... me?

Kat Slater Slag meme. (jed_), Friday, 15 September 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link

Are you both William Shatner?

Mark G, Friday, 15 September 2017 05:49 (six years ago) link

XP can't help it if we're both so right

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link

I do kind of feel about this movie the way I did about Brick (not that the movies themselves are at all similar)--like maybe there are actually genuinely good things about it that speak only to discerning young folks, and I'm too old to really get it.

There's a kind of unselfconscious openness among younger millenials that makes me want to roll my eyes, but at the same time I support it and think it's positive and great!

Dan I., Friday, 15 September 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

Brick was good

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

But not necessarily for young-person reasons - it's an old genre movie in (very thin) disguise.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 15 September 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

I dunno, there may be something in that young person theory. I really liked Brick and saw it multiple times in college, but I watched it again a couple of months ago and thought this time it was actually kind of terrible?

Only JGL and the kid who played Brain were good in it - the rest of it came off really awkward and hokey in a way it didn't when I was younger.

I enjoyed Baby Driver but only because I went in with low expectations. The story is super thin, but mostly here for impeccably soundtracked car chases and Ansel Elgort's cheekbones.

Roz, Friday, 15 September 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

Xps yes! I hated brick and didn't understand why everyone loved it so much

just1n3, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

you are not alone just1n3!

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

come anticipate 'Brick' with me!

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

I do kind of feel about this movie the way I did about Brick (not that the movies themselves are at all similar)--like maybe there are actually genuinely good things about it that speak only to discerning young folks, and I'm too old to really get it.

There's a kind of unselfconscious openness among younger millenials that makes me want to roll my eyes, but at the same time I support it and think it's positive and great!

― Dan I., Friday, September 15, 2017 8:00 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these movies were both written and directed by gen x dudes. i don't know that they are necessarily for the young.

i quite liked brick because i like jgl but the acting isn't great and the concept wears a little thin

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 September 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

I disliked Brick and enjoyed Baby Driver.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 September 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

They're completely different movies, I didn't mean to directly compare them. I just meant that they both give me the same feeling that I get when I reflect on the popularity of, I don't know, Twitch streams, for example: "I don't understand the appeal of this at all, but I think I would if I were younger"

Dan I., Friday, 15 September 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

The presence of Paul Williams, not to mention the musical selections, was evidence enough that there was definitely An Old at the helm, though.

Dan I., Friday, 15 September 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

Is Wright that old?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

This is my favorite movie of the year. Lot of fun, great mix of genres and homages, amazing soundtrack. Surprised the common wisdom here is so negative. Ah well, your loss!

Nhex, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

Given that he opens the movie with the jon spencer blues explosion, I'd be shocked if he were either younger than 38 or older than 45

intheblanks, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

'Baby driver is way better than Brick lol wtf' -a youngish millenial

i know it's not good to read an ilx thread for a popular movie you liked but impeccably soundtracked car chases and Ansel Elgort's cheekbones <- seriously, what more do you want out of a movie?

Alfred always otm itt

flopson, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

Brick is very fun and was made for like literally 1/100 the budget of BD, leave it alone

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 15 September 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

yeah but no Ansel cheekbones

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 September 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

This was awful. What are people smoking?

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 15 September 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

'bones

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

Brick is very fun and was made for like literally 1/100 the budget of BD, leave it alone

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, September 15, 2017 12:57 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did you pay for it?

flopson, Friday, 15 September 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link

Ansel's cheekbones are worth, what, $4000 each?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 September 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

Diner/Barry White sequence was an A+ set piece. Only sorry it didn't go on twice as long

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link

evidence enough that there was definitely An Old at the helm

who remembers when actual music was popular, eh

I look fwd to a library DVD of this (and Get Out) with zero expectations.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 September 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

a good way to approach life

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 September 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

lol you can see me being all over Brick in that other thread.

Anyway, has this been posted yet? Where Wright got the inspiration for the film, with Noel Fielding as not-quite-a-Baby Driver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfrcZsKcVxU

Roz, Saturday, 16 September 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

Is Wright that old?

He's 43, a hair older than me. Happens to the best of us.

(Simon Pegg is hovering just under 50)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 September 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the shot of the clothes all dancing/spinning in unsion in the launderette/laundromat was gorge. i'm amazed i'd never seen that done before.

piscesx, Saturday, 7 October 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

shame on you if you defended this crap

Number None, Saturday, 7 October 2017 01:15 (six years ago) link

Would literally rather watch 90 mins of Noel Fielding rocking out in a car.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

this was simply ok. opening sequence is great, a few other great things, a bunch of dumb things, it's a wash in the end. a fine way to waste an hour and a half at home though.

akm, Monday, 16 October 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link

Held my interest for its two hours, but it's becoming crushingly apparent that I just don't like Edgar Wright as a filmmaker. This is infinitely more watchable than the appalling Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (which ties with The Guest as the angriest that I have been with a film all decade), but his shallow version of cool continues to grate on my nerves. I did laugh at the Mike/Michael Myers bit and, because I'm a horrible person, Foxx's "Tequila" gag.

Contrary to many of the comments upthread, I guess, I thought Lily James, who is new to me, was enchanting, while all of the other performances ranged from mediocre to terrible (keeping in mind, of course, that they are performing an Edgar Wright script). And with apologies to both Alfred (and my husband), Ansel Elgort is nowhere near as swoony, for me, as Ryan Gosling in Drive.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

It's Jon Hamm's best screen perf to date.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link


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