Taking Sides: Sourdough vs. Rye

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I know, I know, you wanna vote 12-grain or whole wheat or English muffin or something. This is not that. This is a battle of two tangy breads and only one champion can emerge. Will it be rye, with its noble delicatessen sandwich history, or sourdough, the outlaw of the lawless west? there will be tears, and they will be mopped up with a delicious crust, but will that crust be seeded, or will it rely on a starter passed down in clay pots by prospectors from the Nevada silver mines? Technically, much rye IS sourdough - you can use a sourdough starter to make rye bread. Practitioners of this sort of pedantry will be offered an untoasted slice of Home Pride Butter Top Wheat and cheerfully shown the door.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
sourdough 47
rye 22


she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

Rye

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link

preferably old school Jewish Rye but marbled is okay too I guess

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

rye. but buckwheat -vs- rye would have been tough for me.

scott seward, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

i get sick of sourdough breads. i feel like the local co-op market here only makes sourdough everything. so i avoid it. never get sick of rye. rye toast! the best. russian black bread with peanut butter....is a fave of mine. mmmm. and don't even get me started on liverwurst on rye with onions and spicy mustard and lettuce and swiss. oy!

scott seward, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

counterpoint: sourdough

imago, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

rye is nice but its weighty austerity fetters the tongue to the drudgery of nutrition, whereas upon the gossamer wings of sourdough a sandwich may soar

imago, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

in other words, yall masochistic

imago, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

I love both of these, but in practice I eat more sourdough so I will vote accordingly. Rye is the best for PBJs tho.

I came onto this thread 100% convinced of the supremacy of sourdough and then I read it and now I am terrified that I have aligned myself with evil

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

graaarh

imago, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

OTOH I fucking love sourdough, it is by far my favorite bread and I hope one day to be buried in a gigantic sourdough baguette

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

the DJP: duck, jalapenos and peach

imago, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

Sourdough

flappy bird, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

Sourdough is a dough containing a Lactobacillus culture in symbiotic combination with yeasts. It is one of the principal means of biological leavening in bread baking, the others using cultivated forms of yeast. It is important in baking rye-based breads, where yeast does not produce comparable results.

mizzell, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

Smørrebrød

Frederik B, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

Rye has a long and deep tradition that sourdough lacks. Consequently, it has more variants. And more flavor.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 17 July 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

it also makes a difference where you stand on seeds.

scott seward, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

Rugbrød, big helping of steak tartare, raw egg yolk, and a bunch of onion + caper. Best food there is. Doesn't work on sourdough at all.

Frederik B, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

the pleasing taste of pastrami on rye outweighs any good sourdough sandwich i've ever had

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

djp otm

Rye for Reubens but for everything else it's sourdough

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

sourdough, though rye is certainly more appropriate for a bunch of different sandwich types

ciderpress, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

I don't mind rye but I fuckin hate caraway seeds and those pointy little bits of evil lurk everywhere so sourdough 4evs

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

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sarahell, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Rye rye rye

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

I just don't think anyone can like rye as much as I like sourdough. Not trying to convert anyone who prefers rye, or who has bread ambivalence. Just proclaiming my deep love for the iconic bread of my native region.

sarahell, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

otoh this rules:

https://youtu.be/eP_rby0mvvY

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

sourdough makes for good pizza crust actually

but rye, toasted, is far superior for the main function of bread, which is sandwiches

El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

I'm sorry but the main function of bread is toast.

sarahell, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

the main function of bread is TO BE STUFFED DIRECTLY INTO MY MOUTH RIGHT NOW

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

The sandwich is just a convenient format for combining bread and a salad. I prefer to eat my bread and my salad separately.

sarahell, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

I'll say it again, but the main function of bread is smørrebrød

Frederik B, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

what did u call me

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

had to google that, but I agree, it is better than a sandwich.

sarahell, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

sourdough is kinda bullshit tbh. enthusiastic celebration of this dismal hardship food is one of the worst traits of the Bay Area and that's saying something.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

would be better on sourdough tbh

sarahell, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

Sourdough in general, forever and ever amen. But rye makes excellent crackers and flatbreads.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

enthusiastic celebration of this dismal hardship food is one of the worst traits of the Bay Area and that's saying something.

Noted but not approved.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

Build the rogerwall

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

dammit, now I've got an Oasis song stuck in my head

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

sourdoasis

El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

Most of the rye that comes with sandwiches in NY delis is of pretty low quality, usually mixed with a lot of white flour as is obvious from its color. I've heard that Langer's Deli in LA has more authentic rye than, say, Katz's in NY.

Josefa, Monday, 17 July 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

Rye because Triscuit

brimstead, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

wait Triscuits are on the rye side of the world

I may have made a terrible mistake

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6yfFWvoygY

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

I like both, but I think I have had more enjoyable eating experiences with not just sandwiches, but also sourdough tortilla wraps, chapatis, naan breads - that they edge it. But melted cheese and ham rye-bread pan grilled sarnies are also wonderful. I feel like in a post-apocalyptic type of world rye would piss it cos it probs keeps you alive longer.

calzino, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

I wanna point out for those on the fence (that includes me, these breads are both so good that you really can't go wrong) that sourdough makes fucking incredible french toast. I have not attempted rye french toast, but I'd be skeptical.

Rye is a rockist bread.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link

If pumpernickel is a subset of rye bread then rye>sourdough.

The people have spoken.

brownie, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

I live in Hackney so I imagine I'm legally obliged to pick sourdough.

chap, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

if rye is rockist, btw, then russian black bread is metal that takes itself way too seriously

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

san francisco sourdough is maybe my favourite thing to eat in the world

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

whom amongst us would not eat avocado toast on sourdough with feta cheese for $11 at the local cafe?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

-feta +poached egg

The XX pants (ledge), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

ha yeah i hesitated between poached egg and feta when i posted

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link


the pleasing taste of pastrami on rye outweighs any good sourdough sandwich i've ever had

if I were a meat-eater rye would be walking this SO easily owing to the heavy weight placed on the scale here, pastrami on rye is one of the soundest arguments for the carnivore life that I know of. does sourdough have any single sandwich incarnation as iconic as pastrami on rye?

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

Pastrami on Sourdough?

DJI, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

The best of all sandwiches is the tuna melt and for that rye>sourdough.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

Rye wins this in p much every respect. Tuna melt rye is otm, just as pastrami on rye, salted or pickled herring on rye etc

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

Sourdough, but it's close. The seeds are biggest reason to vote against rye. However, I'd vote for dark rye over these two easily.

Moodles, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

avocado toast is a sandwich and one of the soundest arguments for leaving the carnivore life (as long as you also add tomato, zaatar, and coarse sea salt)

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

i ate liverwurst sandwiches two days in a row for lunch thanks to this thread. or braunschweiger to be precise. plus swiss+baby lettuce+hot pepper rings+shallots+kosciusko mustard+arnold jewish rye with seeds.

nobody in my house shares my love for this meal. they didn't grow up with a mother from long island.

oh and boars head kosher dills on the side. just missing a cel-ray soda and a bag of chips for perfection.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

damn dude scott s keeping it as real as it GETS.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

arnold ftw

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

i never buy/taste sourdough, so unsure whether i should vote

i do buy the Arnold

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

Here's the thing, the most annoying part of sourdough avocado toast is sawing through the sourdough.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

But that's part of the appeal

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

Had a patty melt tonight in honor of this poll.

how's life, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

rye tastes awful to me but maybe i just haven't had the right rye

tong poo (da ba dee) (crüt), Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 23 July 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Funny this came up this week. I've been hitting Marks&Spencers at the time they make major reductions recently. One day this week I scored 1/2 price loaves of each.
Don't think I have a favourite both were pretty great. Haven't tried either in a while before that.
Used to get a 60% rye regularly about 15 years back but I think the baker's long gone.
Liked the sourdough from the Bagel shop in Finsbury park too.

Stevolende, Sunday, 23 July 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

The only bread I have eaten in the last 6 months was the slightly rye tinged sourdough at 108 in Copenhagen which was phenomenal. My local bakers does a pretty awesome 100% rye sourdough which makes the absolute best toast.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 23 July 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link

you fucking asked for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX3oMbPQMzU

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Sunday, 23 July 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

I love the crust on sourdough and the elastic crumb. And the sourness, of course. Rye has its place for sure but I confidently cast my vote for sourdough.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 23 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

You know what would probably be really good is a croque madame on toasted dark rye

El Tomboto, Sunday, 23 July 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 24 July 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Disgusting savages

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link

otm

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 July 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link

Ugh. This is like november 8 all over again.

Fetchboy, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

you're living in a bubble

j., Monday, 24 July 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link

instead of casting blame why don't you try to understand the sourdough eater?

j., Monday, 24 July 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link

Fetchboy otm

No interest whatsoever in skimming a hundred longform fieldwork pieces on the people who are wrong

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link

gallup sandwich poll

j., Monday, 24 July 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

THANKS, TRUMP!

scott seward, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

The blame clearly lands at the feet of marble rye for pandering to the sourdough lovers. Sourdough was always going to get at least 45 votes. If we had been more vocal about the anti-flatulence benefits of caraway seeds instead of trying to pivot to the center to please people who don't floss more ilxors would've come out to vote for rye.

Fetchboy, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link

cant campIgn against bad taste

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 July 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

I think sourdough is a tasty type of bread

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 July 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

rye is good too! the bread debate has been taken over by extremists on both sides

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 July 2017 03:05 (six years ago) link

Weak coalition vs monolith. Should have known.

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

h4x

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 24 July 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link

I tried to give fair consideration to both sides throughout the campaign, but these results have galvanized me as a rye partisan.

how's life, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:46 (six years ago) link

I am going to eat a rye-on-sourdough sandwich in honor of this thread.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link

I appreciate your clarity re: who's the top.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link

Yeah, the rye gets the roof of the mouth. Turn all senses away.

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:21 (six years ago) link

The concerns of sourdough voters are real and poorly understood by elites

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8RlCE_UwAArlUB.jpg

five months pass...

rye is so good

marcos, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

there better be caraway seeds in that tho

marcos, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link

There should have been a poll option for pumpernickel.

o. nate, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link


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