Trump, September 2017: Walmart Knockoff Hats and Other Indignities

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Good mourning!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link

medicare for all, free public college tuition, kennedy-era tax rates

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 September 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

enjoy the next round of breathless speculation everyone

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 1 September 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link

we lived through august! *group hug*

scott seward, Friday, 1 September 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

Time seemed to be flying by in the days BT (Before Trump), but scanning through a month's worth of activity, shit from 30 days ago feels like it happened sometime in 1975.

Pascal's Penisés (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

i just want one penis helicopter to interrupt a trump press conference. i don't ask for much

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

after the destruction of an entire city those nazi riots do seem like ages ago.

scott seward, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

i just want one penis helicopter to interrupt a trump press conference. i don't ask for much

yeah, this is the type of russian hacking i can support 100%

pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

covfefe was 40 years ago

frogbs, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

people are STILL making covfefe jokes out there in the world
i was buying some groceries last week and out of the murmur of the shoppers and checkout aisles i heard "cov-fay-fay!!" out of nowhere and some laughing

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

so McCain did some editorializin'

Our entire system of government — with its checks and balances, its bicameral Congress, its protections of the rights of the minority — was designed for compromise. It seldom works smoothly or speedily. It was never expected to.

It requires pragmatic problem-solving from even the most passionate partisans. It relies on compromise between opposing sides to protect the interests we share. We can fight like hell for our ideas to prevail. But we have to respect each other or at least respect the fact that we need each other.

That has never been truer than today, when Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct.

We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities. We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/john-mccain-its-time-congress-returns-to-regular-order/2017/08/31/f62a3e0c-8cfb-11e7-8df5-c2e5cf46c1e2_story.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

barf

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

classic 'writes that, supports basically everything he does anyway' situation

global tetrahedron, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

I mean, McCain did vote against Trump's wishes on one occasion which actually did matter. I think that counts for something, you don't have to.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

I won't lie, every time I click on this thread I hope he's just dropped dead or something

Meanwhile, a restaurant review

https://amp.ft.com/content/540354a4-8e4c-11e7-a352-e46f43c5825d

Over lunch, the 49-year-old hurtles his way to the end of each sentence without pause, using “f**k” the way millennials use “like”: constantly. He tells me he “almost certainly” has attention-deficit disorder. His choice of venue is as brazen as his avowals that he is blameless. We are plum in the centre of Mirabelle, just a block from the White House, a restaurant so luxurious they asked if it was a special occasion when I made the booking. The room of golden latticeworks and mirrors is packed with Washington power diners. It only opened in the spring, but Akhmetshin has already been “20 or 30 times”. Greeted warmly by staff, he embarks on a long meditation on the wonders of Islamic ornament and its deliberate imperfection, triggered by the interior design. “Only Allah is perfect,” he concludes. Then he orders us both pink champagne.

“Can I have mine maybe in a burgundy glass?” he asks the wine director, turning the exotic request into a friendly command. Then he turns to me conspiratorially and adds: “You know there are champagnes which you decant!”

Akhmetshin goes for Riesling with his rabbit pâté starter. Feeling chancey, I plump for Atlantic fluke marinated with pastis, with fennel purée, smoked trout roe and nasturtium to start; to follow I decide I’d better join Akhmetshin in the steak, which seems the most robust option to sustain what I gather will be a breakneck pace. White wine pairings duly arrive.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

“It’s like someone steals your toothpaste from you because you couldn’t hide it well enough — I think there’s something honest about that.” He goes on to expound a curious theory of “personal responsibility” — the value he says he likes best about America.

It is 6.20pm. We’ve been at it for nearly five hours but now his longest lunch ever comes to an abrupt halt. Akhmetshin has to cook supper for his daughter. “I should have ordered more alcohol,” he reflects.

He pedals off astride his orange bicycle.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

“It’s like someone steals your toothpaste from you because you couldn’t hide it well enough — I think there’s something honest about that.”

is it 'things a psychopath would say?'

a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

real life is getting even weirder

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

Akhmetshin goes for Riesling with his rabbit pâté starter.

Nabokov story

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

Scans like Henry Higgins elocution lessons.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

Him: Now repeat after me: "Akhmetshin goes for Riesling with his rabbit pâté starter."
Her: gurgle gamer gurgle gobble!
Him: No! Again!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

"He wants the opportunity to personally tell people that we want to be helpful." https://t.co/t5HxFmMCXc

— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) September 1, 2017

j., Friday, 1 September 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

White wine paired with steak, oh dear.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

after the destruction of an entire city those nazi riots do seem like ages ago.

I haven't watched late-night shows in awhile, but I caught a couple Seth reruns this week--one of 'em was after the 'Fire & Fury', and last night's was from May, after the 'Two Scoops' incident. Both felt like transmissions from separate worlds.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

The transparent dishonesty of his "praise" for certain people continues to be hilarious:

General John Kelly is doing a great job as Chief of Staff. I could not be happier or more impressed - and this Administration continues to..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 1, 2017

...get things done at a record clip. Many big decisions to be made over the coming days and weeks. AMERICA FIRST!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 1, 2017

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

Damn:

A House Republican said Thursday he will launch an effort to force a vote on his bipartisan legislation shielding young immigrants who came to the U.S. illegally as children from deportation.

Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) announced he will file a discharge petition next week when the chamber returns to session. The move is all the more striking given that discharge petitions are usually a tool used by the House minority party.

Coffman’s announcement came amid multiple reports on Thursday that President Trump is expected to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program as soon as Friday. Nearly 800,000 people who came to the U.S. illegally as children have been granted work permits and deferred deportation under the program created under President Obama in 2012.

“#DACA participants grew up here, went to school here, and should be allowed to stay here. The time has come to take action,” Coffman wrote on Twitter.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/348771-gop-lawmaker-wants-to-force-vote-on-bill-protecting-daca-recipients

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

America Fist!
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/t/fist-us-flag-8847194.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

You want a waste of time congress? Needing to repeatedly enact legislation that prevents the president from undoing legislation already in place.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

well, DACA was an executive order.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

and here comes the speaker:

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Friday he doesn't think President Trump should cancel the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

"I actually don't think he should do that, and I believe that this is something Congress has to fix," Ryan told WCLO Janesville.

Ryan added that he doesn't believe President Obama had the legal authority to institute DACA, but it's up to Congress to fix the situation.

"President Obama did not have the legislative authority to do what he did," said Ryan. "You can't, as an executive, write law out of thin air."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

These numbers... devastating. And, in case I didn't mention it, ts a Fox News poll. pic.twitter.com/uFKDZimvjA

— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) September 1, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

That Charles Pierce piece yesterday about the Mueller investigation--the one that starts "It's on"--is that as encouraging as it sounds? He doesn't seem like someone to breathlessly project when there's nothing there.

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

I hope I hope I hope I hope he was watching when that came on. xp

"Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct.

We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities. We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people...."

impossible to "cooperate" with, utterly incapable of discharging the duties of the position he was elected to. the facts will wait for you to be willing to acknowledge them, sen. mccain.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, 1 September 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

How could anyone possibly apply gradations to "knowledgeable," "honest," "steady," "compassionate," and "moral"?

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

lies to my enemies but not to me e.g.

j., Friday, 1 September 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

That Charles Pierce piece yesterday about the Mueller investigation--the one that starts "It's on"--is that as encouraging as it sounds? He doesn't seem like someone to breathlessly project when there's nothing there.

It's reasonable tea leaf reading at this point, yes.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has obtained a letter that President Trump and a top political aide drafted in the days before Mr. Trump fired the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, which explains the president’s rationale for why he planned to dismiss the director.

The May letter had been met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that some of its contents were problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter.

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

can someone help me understand what is going on with this Antifa thing? is this a real group or just yet another dumb attempt by the right-wing to deflect attention away from the terrible people on their side?

frogbs, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

Deflection. They're both bad! Both sides do it! If they are good people why do they wear black?! WHY!?!?!?!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

I thought this was good, h/t kingfish for posting:

https://psmag.com/social-justice/understanding-antifa

sleeve, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

Man, I can only imagine the damage that will come of a letter drafted by Miller and Trump with no oversight.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

re: "Its On"

All the leaks indicate Mueller is hard charging at 2 things: the obstruction angle and trying to destroy Manafort

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

Perhaps money laundering, too. Or money/Manafort in an effort to get to Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

i know i've been spoiled by months of document leaks because i want to read the miller/trump letter NOW, and i'm disappointed that it'll have to wait until...whatever happens months/years from now with mueller

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

How could anyone possibly apply gradations to "knowledgeable," "honest," "steady," "compassionate," and "moral"?

I wasn't clear enough here--what I meant was, as applied to Trump. Who could sort them out? "I think he's a little more honest than he is steady, but a little more steady than compassionate." None of the terms apply.

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

Days/minutes/seconds.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

black goo dragon farts that turn his extremities into intestines and vice versa

You know, an industrial accident

El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

what an immensely horrible human being

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

So...what shall we name the October thread.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

jackboots on the ground

Neanderthal, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

(not, not really)

Neanderthal, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

how about: You must be nasty to Trump

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

But his supporters keep finding ways to defend him. Oh, the San Juan mayor had tweeted months ago her dislike for Trump; as if that has anything to do with the slow US response in Puerto Rico.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

He is a disgrace. I wish he would die.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

i never would have expected such callousness from a white supremacist xenophobe

bob lefse (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

looking forward to my trip to spit on this thing's grave

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

My main motivation to survive this presidency is counting on the probability that I will outlive him so I can literally dance on his grave one day.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

But that's if he doesn't get dragged out the WH and ripped apart Gaddafi-style.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

^^See, this is what we need Thrillary for.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

I'll honestly settle for a massive stroke that leaves him incapable of speaking or using his hands. Largely because I can't imagine anyone feeling compelled to care for him in that state, so someone will maybe just toss him in a dumpster or something.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 September 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

There are honestly times when I feel optimistic about humanity based solely on the fact that we've collectively gone seventy years without beating this ambulatory shart into a coma.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 September 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

black goo dragon farts that turn his extremities into intestines and vice versa

this should be the name of the October thread and any pretenders to its throne will not be as good, be real

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 30 September 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

vice viscera

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 September 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

i'm wondering more and more if decent americans hate trump more than the deplorables are bigoted against minorities

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 September 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

can't believe john d is a bush 2 apologist now

||||||||, Saturday, 30 September 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

xpost I can state definitively that I've never harbored such intense and sustained ill-will for anyone in my life. Which is at least partially fueled by the fact that he NEVER SUFFERS ANY REPERCUSSIONS FOR ANYTHING EVER.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

How about bringing back the word Politics in the October thread, and leaving the word Trump out

sciatica, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

xpost Externally at least. Internally, he is rotting away. He is going to die rich and diseased.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

He is the very personification, the embodiment, of every horrible thing every horrible rich person has ever done and gotten away with. He is a tumor, he is like a subconscious manifestation from a Cronenberg film.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

the POTUS is more critical of the mayor of san juan, when puerto rico is still digging itself out of a hurricane, than he has ever been of the president of russia, who hacked our election. can we revoke the voting privileges of all registered republicans yet?

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

The revolution those conservatives talk about, this is it. They're gladly taking Russian assistance, judging by their, at best, blase attitude towards the whole thing. They like Putin's society far better than the direction the US has been going in.

I think we've got a coup going on, baby.

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

Think about this: the oligarchy that's been trying to seize power (Citizens United, most recently), will gain even more wealth and power under such a system. Social conservatives will get their race dominance and beloved authoritarian leader.

The NYT's owners, NBC, CBS, et al, were way more afraid of Sanders than Trump, and even threw a few bones Trump's away in hedging against Clinton.

Whoowee, we've got some crazy shit going on. It's going to royally suck for minorities and the professional, educated class if things really go to shit, unless you get comfy kissing these peoples' asses. Not that it'd be much different than now anyway...

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

I don't remember any of those dialogue bits from JFK.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

This is pretty 1:1 reasoning here, so I don't think it qualifies for JFK level stuff. I've seen this same "JFK" stuff you talk about wreck impossible projects, so GFY.

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

Why wouldn't people want the things they clearly want, and have an avenue to obtain it? Because of LOVE?

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

I'll honestly settle for a massive stroke that leaves him incapable of speaking or using his hands. Largely because I can't imagine anyone feeling compelled to care for him in that state, so someone will maybe just toss him in a dumpster or something.

Could a stroke also cause you to think everyone around you is cursing you in Spanish? I'd like that.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

also -- ayn rand? russian. the #1 donors to the GOP? their daddy made his fortune building stalin's oil refineries. are there any bigger influences on xontemporary "conservatism" than ayn rand and charles / david koch? i'm not anti-russian by any stretch, but boy did republicans pretend to be until like last year

xpost

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

For serious, larry/carpet_kaiser/whatever usernames you're swapping between: keep your 'GFY' bullshit to yourself or I'll flag every one of your posts until you're banned.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

So someone zings me, and I can't zing back? That doesn't seem fair.

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

It's like you want the TRUMP card here! hhuhuhuhuh

carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

uh huh huh he said 'rump' uh huh huh uh huh huh

Neanderthal, Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link

Voting for "u bum" for October thread title btw; it feels gently eloquent

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

how is carpet kaiser not banned yet? take the crazy pills mindblower schtick to some comments thread someplace, man

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

your question answers itself

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

You dudes said "crazy pills" about all the other stuff I said, which ended up coming true. I don't blame you guys for not having the stomach for this stuff, so I will refrain.

carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 1 October 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

permalinks or it didn't happen

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 1 October 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link

Ur butt is a permalink uh huh hih

Neanderthal, Sunday, 1 October 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

who's gonna start the new one

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 1 October 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link

here's a first - this dude called Twitter "biased" yesterday when someone was citing what he tweeted as proof dude is an asshole

i can't even anymore

Neanderthal, Sunday, 1 October 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

Sorry Joanie the dragon goo fart was too gross for me

Trump, October 2017: Apologize for untruth, u bum

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 October 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link

Ugh, Puzder on MSNBC carrying water for Trump's "tax reform" ideas. He keeps saying "we need to stop parsing this out in individual pieces and look at what it'll do for the whole economy, for everyone" hahaha yeah those keys sure are jingling in your other hand man let me keep staring at those.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

The estate tax "is a double tax! It taxes money you've already made!"

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

Heyyyy fuck you, bud, how about that.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

There's an October thread now, heads up

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

Fuck I thought I was posting in that. Someone should lock this and also i should pay more attention.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link


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