The Real Actual Pop-Eye 27/10/02

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featuring the first ever list of Real Music Martyrs!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Haha sorry Tom I have bolloxed yr link by posting even more bollox directly after you - but then again you get to read MY top ten cool list!

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

It is somewhat predictable => it's post-17:00 and my brane = fried.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)

No worries I've put the proper archive link on now.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Unfond as I am of some of those high charters and distrustful of your praise of Justin T. in particular (though I agree, he deserves the song not), the knowledge of the quashing of the RMM pleases me greatly. ESPECIALLY WITH THE BASTARDY THAT IS NO DOUBT AT THE BOTTOM.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned what do you mean???!!! Those are PROPER MUSICIANS whose songs are being forced out of the chart by PABULUM!

"Pube-headed smirking" != "Praise"

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Those are PROPER MUSICIANS whose songs are being forced out of the chart by PABULUM!

Astounding! The concept of 'pube-headed smirking,' however, sounds like a subject for Mr. Perry.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you given up on ILM altogether now, Tom, or something? ;-)

― Jeff W, Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

The number of people who are into pop and don't read ILM is higher than the number who are into it and don't read ILE I think. Same goes for Focus Group threads.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:36 (twenty-three years ago)

you should put this thread on both boards tom. there are pop-lovers who will miss out.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Also the number of people who read NYLPM anyway on ILM is higher.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)

What happened to NYLPM? Big blank page.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm getting it Nabisco.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

(heh when NYLPM comes back, it will be all analytical and logical, plus it will perv on Rainy)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:54 (twenty-three years ago)

(alternately, Tom is "getting it" and can't be bothered to fix the page [although he can give ILE updates on his progress, which is worrying])

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)

am I the only one who likes 'Underneath It All' by No Doubt?

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 18:02 (twenty-three years ago)

No.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 18:06 (twenty-three years ago)

*weeps with glee*

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

glee = joy

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 18:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I hope you two are happy together.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

'Nu Flow' is just wonderful, one of my favourite tracks of the year easily. It's high placing is no surprise, there's little to match it for sheer slinky sass. It's a sweet-toothed Brit-hip-pop sugar rush.

'The Zephyr Song' is the first thing I've really liked by the RHCP, I seem to have been hearing it non-stop for MONTHS - thanks to Radio 1's 'play it to destruction' A-list policy - but I still haven't really tired of it. Won't buy it or anything daft like that, but I don't mind it being around. Mark Radcliffe (who also likes it) drew a comparison between it and indie-no-hopers Cud (vocals wise).

That Turin Brakes thing is just dreadful, pitifully wishy-washy Subcircus tribute band tosh.

― DavidM (DavidM), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Shiny Disco Balls, have you actually heard it Tom? (I'm not being facetious, I genuinely thought there was a chance you hadn't)

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 19:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah but only once on the R1 countdown on Sunday. Ronan you should do a Pop-Eye sometime.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Shiny Disco Balls is great (I heard it in New Look today).

In what way is Sarah Whatmore's single a steamroller ballad?

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Shiny Disco Balls

I HATE IT WHEN LINES LIKE THIS COME UP AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING TO SAY.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

(New Look = lady's fashion store. does that help?)

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

A particularly welcome list of Real Music Martyrs - keep recording these!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 20:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh can I? I'd love to actually, I mean I actually like some pop now aswell which would help. Yeah just say the word, the next time, or whenever suits and I'll do it.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

That Nu Flow track is awful, it sounds like link music from Noel's House Party being rapped over by special olympics contestants gargling concrete. Except that'd sound quite good.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

was The Prodigy's 'One Love' that bad? oh you meant those Stone Roses fellows, ha

also, i do believe 'Dont Mug Yourself' is only the fourth single from the album not the fifth...not that it makes matters any better

i like chart dance (as long as it actually came from the clubs) too, but i'll probably just go off and write my own Pop Eye in a huff

― blueski, Tuesday, 29 October 2002 21:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Blueski I think the Prodigy's "One Love" was a weak single for them. Dont Mug is the 4th single BUT "Geezers Need Excitement" was on the first single before the album came out so its the 5th album track to appear on a single.

I may have Sarah W's confused with something else Graham - what does it go like? Obv Gareth and Will haven't released only steamroller ballads either but Rosie's track is still easily the most modern-sounding thing to come out of Pop Idol.

Do not worry Martin the RMMs are here to stay. The John Squire single is the only one to have been denied a Top 40 placing AT ALL by Pop Idol.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Seems to me we need more Pop Idols in the charts, then, keep the likes of Puddle Of Mudd out completely.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:26 (twenty-three years ago)

the Prodigy's "One Love" was a weak single for them

B-but it has a Jonny L remix on the flip! I paid all of 50p for it, I will hear nothing against it. (Even though you are pretty much right.)

― Rebecca (reb), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:43 (twenty-three years ago)

i'll second the comments on 'shiny disco balls', which is ace aggro disco, and 'nu flow', which is like if popstars-the rivals aspired to outkast not westlife and bonnie langford was a judge. oh, and 'one love' is the only blue song i've really liked.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 09:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Can I second the props for Nu FLow - I think it stands up really rather well to 21 Seconds. Its intro raps perhaps aren't as good but there is no annoying fake bravado here - and the tune is - as DavidM sez - a real bundle of fun asking for a lolloping kind of dance. Not to mention the way the track keeps coming in and out. Miles better than the LL Cool J by numbers below it.

(I had a Pop-Eye all written for last week on the bus, I just never got round to typing it up which may have made this more interesting).

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 10:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I was nice about the tune- I said "Lionel Bart crossed with Outkast"!! What more do you want? I still think the raps are rubbish and LL's tune is great, a good old weepie. Go on LL-bird, take Cool James back! Awww!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:08 (twenty-three years ago)

how is there "no annoying fake bravado" in 'nu flow'?

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought 'Nu Flow' was one of the better things on TOTP last week. And it was grebt that both Nelly and Kelly showed up - they really looked like they were enjoying themselves, too.

(everyone who has posted on this thread posts on ILM, except for Ptee!)

― Jeff W (Jeff W), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay - less annoying fake bravado. But surely Lionel Bart meets Outcaste = Outcaste. But fair enough, that is a solid compliment. ANd I'll second your plea that she should go back to LL - it might shut him up. The track just seems to be so average to me.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom: "Since I lost you, I lost everything. But Iiii still want you" etc. It's only a ballad in the same way any of Kylie's last few singles could be.

― Graham (graham), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:36 (twenty-three years ago)

there is a video on MTV at the moment which seems to be ripping Outcaste off completely, especially the Whole world video. I s this what you speak of?

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:36 (twenty-three years ago)

yup.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Outkast (purveyors of quirky-yet-accessible hip-hop hits) != Outcaste (purveyors of high-quality Bollywood cash-in comps)

I think actually my Lionel Bart thing wrongly reads like a diss, there should be a 'but' in there somewhere i.e. is Big Brovaz a breakthrough (sounds like LB vs O) or is it a setback (really shit rhyming).

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 11:41 (twenty-three years ago)

but are we going to get a streets xmas single in the great and discontinued tradition of slade, wizzard etc.?

"go to mum's house for turkey/shit in a tray/wire up the xmas tree/blinded by the lights/dizzy new heights/i got it from a dodgy fuck in knightsbridge, whoops i meant tulse hill/i eat the pudding but choke on the sharp darts/so i couldn't swallow my souls/all legal" &c. &c.

― Emmanuel Goldstein, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 12:11 (twenty-three years ago)

as I said elsewhere a Streets Christmas single would sound like "what are we gonna get for er indoors?" by George Cole and Dennis Waterman.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)

that's typical RIGHT there's no respect YOU MAKE ME LAUGH YOU DO oh jel please JUST LEAVE ME OUT after all I've done for you!

― Emmanuel Goldstein, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I just really, really hate the way he sounds so pleased with himself when he says "They want to ride in the whip!" Ooh, aren't you street...

― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah the Sarah Whatmore tune is Rob Davis made aswell, I think it's pretty good, not Kylie good but I like it.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 15:32 (twenty-three years ago)

"One Love" was fantastic, you mentalists. It was certainly better than the train wreck that was the remix of "Wind It Up".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan - but compared to the rest of Music For The Jilted Generation...?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)

but Rosie's track is still easily the most modern-sounding thing to come out of Pop Idol.

It may be relatively modern but it's rubbish. She looks really average as well (maybe it's the stylist's fault). She's going to disappear fast I reckon.

― David (David), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

'One Love' IS undeniably weak for them but the Jonny L mix borders on Omni Trio breathtakery!

'Wind It Up' the single mix is fine...finer is the 'Tightly Wound' mix on the remixes edition 12"

(shifts dandruff off his anorak)

― blueski, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw blueski's post out of context and thought "There's a Jonny L mix of Blue's "One Love"? Cor!"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 31 October 2002 01:35 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...

Dan - but compared to the rest of Music For The Jilted Generation...?

I would rank the _Jilted_ singles as follows:

"Poison"
"One Love"
"Voodoo People"
"No Good (Start The Dance)"

The best tracks on the album are "Break And Enter" and "Claustrophobic Sting".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:11 (twenty-three years ago)

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