PHANTOM THREAD: Paul Tomas Anderson, Daniel Day-Lewis, Fifties London

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Eazy, Friday, 13 October 2017 20:00 (three months ago) Permalink

Thomas typo.

Eazy, Friday, 13 October 2017 20:00 (three months ago) Permalink

Thomas Typo Types Tentatively

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 13 October 2017 20:16 (three months ago) Permalink

The thread of threads.

Anyway, trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNsiQMeSvMk

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:43 (two months ago) Permalink

this looks insanely boring

Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 14:57 (two months ago) Permalink

So apparently DDL is not a gay dude in this

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 14:59 (two months ago) Permalink

PTA does M/I.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:21 (two months ago) Permalink

this looks insanely boring

― Simon H., Monday, October 23, 2017 7:57 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

interest piqued

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:23 (two months ago) Permalink

this does not appeal

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:26 (two months ago) Permalink

well I live in hope that it's not actually about fashion, the most boring topic on earth.

Like one of those Saint Laurent films.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:27 (two months ago) Permalink

My gf has been super into sewing and making clothes lately, so I'm excited for beautifully-shot sewing action scenes on her behalf.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:30 (two months ago) Permalink

looks good to me ... is this the first PTA movie to have nothing to do with California?

tylerw, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:32 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm sure this will be good, because PTA usually delivers the goods, but for all you folks who complained how boring the new Blade Runner is, man, it was a relative struggle for me to make it through this 2-minute trailer.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I'll watch DDL be boring anytime, though.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Y'all are nuts this looks great

.oO (silby), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked The Dressmaker (2015)! Although that combined costume porn with Western tropes.

Previous word on this film suggests that Phantom Thread's story is based on the life of Charles James (1906-1978).

Virulent Is the Word for Julia (j.lu), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:38 (two months ago) Permalink

looks good to me ... is this the first PTA movie to have nothing to do with California?

Hard Eight?

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:42 (two months ago) Permalink

oh right!

tylerw, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:00 (two months ago) Permalink

I'll probably watch this, but yeah, it looks pretty dull

Moodles, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

looks good to me ... is this the first PTA movie to have nothing to do with California?

There Will Be Blood is all Texas, isn't it?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Southern California

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Looks insanely boring & I fear he shot without a complete script again

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 16:59 (two months ago) Permalink

why do you all say "boring" like it's a bad thing?

.oO (silby), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:00 (two months ago) Permalink

i only hold films in high esteem if i nod off during them

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:02 (two months ago) Permalink

There Will Be Blood has aged pretty poorly (mostly because the last 10 minutes have been parodied and referenced so much - a shame because the ending was so powerful when I first saw it), but The Master has aged really well... I saw that one by myself opening night & then the next day with a bunch of friends and we were all left scratching our heads... haven't seen it since, but it's bloomed in my mind in a way that TWBB hasn't, quite the opposite... maybe the difference between DDL & PSH...

why do you all say "boring" like it's a bad thing?

the cardinal sin in movies is being boring, i don't understand the question

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:04 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah i watched Louis XIV die in bed for 2 hours last night

xp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:05 (two months ago) Permalink

flappy, have you dodged the entire Slow Cinema trend?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:06 (two months ago) Permalink

what are some examples

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:07 (two months ago) Permalink

First person that came to mind when I read "slow cinema" was Kelly Reichardt, who's one of my favorite working directors. Certain Women is slow but it's anything but boring.

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:07 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah slow =/= boring. "PTA fashion movie" is my idea of hell if that's really what this is

Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 17:09 (two months ago) Permalink

you can def nap to the work of apichatpong weerasethakul, one of my favorite directors

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Guessing it was made with self-awareness of The Age of Innocence and Gosford Park as context, wild energetic American filmmakers telling a story in a restrained and refined world.

Eazy, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:14 (two months ago) Permalink

wild energetic

this is not a fitting descriptor for PTA imo.

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean, anxiety is also a form of energy I guess

Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 17:16 (two months ago) Permalink

I keep hearing that the Paul Thomas Anderson/Daniel Day-Lewis movie is sort of an art-house FIFTY SHADES OF GREY...

— Kyle Buchanan (@kylebuchanan) August 7, 2017

This tweet (coupled with some hints in the trailer) suggest that this movie is not primarily about fashion

Number None, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh hell yeah

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Unfortunately, 'art house 50 Shades of Grey' sounds like a movie full of the scenes where he's asking her why isn't she eating and then making her eat.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 October 2017 18:33 (two months ago) Permalink

That does look decidedly boring

He should play WB Yeats soon

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

don't you remember he retired? (lol)

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:04 (two months ago) Permalink

unless he has some sort of second coming...

Number None, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:04 (two months ago) Permalink

There's totally going to be a scene where he sews a dildo into one of those secret pockets

Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 19:46 (two months ago) Permalink

The strange thing is that in real life Daniel Day-Lewis is actually a cobbler and his specialty is embedding dildoes in the soles of his shoes. It's kind of ridiculous when you think about it, this presumption that knowing one thing could actually translate into a meaningful ability to represent the other thing. Hardly method acting, if you ask me.

Moodles, Monday, 23 October 2017 20:07 (two months ago) Permalink

daniel dild-shoeis morelike amirite

clammy marinara (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 October 2017 20:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I regret this.

Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 20:14 (two months ago) Permalink

daniel dild-shoeis morelike amirite

hahahaha

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:06 (two months ago) Permalink

This looks great, not boring at all. The photography looks absolutely beautiful. Very excited to see it.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:08 (two months ago) Permalink

This looks great.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Is that Julia Davis playing the "rival" at the dinner table 1:15 in? She's not on the cast list.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I won't watch the trailer (I don't really watch them) but PTA, whom I don't like much, made Inherent Vice and The Master back to back, both of which tickled me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 02:55 (two months ago) Permalink

i'd like to know what you think of the aesthetic fwiw, and it doesn't give much away. in fact it does the opposite. such a shock to see PTA shoot grey skies, rainy cobbled streets and wild green coastlines.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 03:54 (two months ago) Permalink

DDL looks magnificent. 60 years of age!

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 03:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I can't stop watching this trailer. I hope that this will be one of my favourite films of all time. I know it's stupid to hope that.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:28 (two months ago) Permalink

The film's aesthetic (if the trailer is to be trusted) is gorgeous--glorious clothes on beautiful people and magnificently preserved old houses. But I fear this will be another Gosford Park, in which a banal story is played out in a plutographic setting. I enjoy such movies while I'm watching them, but afterwards I feel like I've eaten too much candy.

(FWIW (do not read if you hate me) I prefer the 1934 Age of Innocence to the 1993 version, because the latter version seems to me to be bogged down in period detail.)

Virulent Is the Word for Julia (j.lu), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 12:19 (two months ago) Permalink

well, let's see if it can even brush the hem of A Quiet Passion's dress.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:08 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

if this is DDL's last film, he's going out with the usual raves

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/phantom-thread/critic-reviews

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Every PTA gets the "the only one still making bona fide American masterpieces" reception, but this one's winning over some of the skeptics.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:25 (one month ago) Permalink

The only two films I hold in especially high esteem are Magnolia and Inherent Vice. So I'm not holding my breath.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:26 (one month ago) Permalink

The Master and IV for me, with Hard Eight close behind.

I missed the screening last Thursday and won't open for another month. The studio's holding on to it like a precious bauble.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Last 3 are his best for me (cept the ending of Blood)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Not even remotely screening in my area before the new year.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Happened to watch Boogie Nights on a whim last night. Is it possible for a film to be “great” while also showing its seams (pardon the apropos metaphor) so clearly? It’s maybe the pinnacle of the jukebox movie. (I see its daddy Goodfellas as more than that.) I can’t tell if it is so vivid an experience for me because I saw it over and over at an impressionable age (and I’d never seen a movie with such tonal and stylistic flourishes before) or because it really stands up. But as a “hey look at me, look what I can do!” kind of statement it’s really something. I’m not sure his leap into maturity has worn as well. I admire his later movies but few of them really have a hold on me like Boogie Nights does, despite being pretty clear sighted about its flaws.

That said, the Master and Inherent Vice improve on subsequent viewings. Magnolia is almost unbearable to me now.

ryan, Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:17 (one month ago) Permalink

Most great anythings show their seams!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:19 (one month ago) Permalink

Boogie Nights and Magnolia never struck me as anything more than wildly uneven, blatantly derivative provocations upon original release, and I haven't cared to revisit them.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:22 (one month ago) Permalink

That is true! And yet.

ryan, Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Advance P Brad 5 Star review to be taken under the usual advisement:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/dec/07/phantom-thread-review-daniel-day-lewis-paul-thomas-anderson

Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Friday, 8 December 2017 10:17 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

I won't say yet what I think one of the major themes of this film turns out to be. The elders in the Upper West Side audience were a bit baffled.

Anyway, stands with Inherent Vice as Anderson's best. Variously put me in mind of The Archers, Welles, Hitchcock, Eyes Wide Shut.

(also if you go to a 70mm screening, at least in NYC, you get a glossy program book)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 16:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

btw it's not boring

DDL v involved with the scripting

http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/02/phantom-thread-paul-thomas-anderson-interview/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there are definite roots in Rebecca and Suspicion, but then detours you can't anticipate.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this was great. had no idea jonny greenwood did the soundtrack, which was just fantastic.

iatee, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 05:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Made a point of driving 2+ hours over the holidays to catch this in the 70mm "special presentation" and it was worth all the time and hassle. Easily my favorite movie of the year as soon as it ended. Very very not-boring and PTA's shortest since Punch-Drunk Love.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 08:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

only skimmed the review as i havent seen this yet but anthony lane called ddl the federer of film

johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 January 2018 19:59 (one week ago) Permalink

it's a cute analogy

Number None, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Q: Is it violent/sadomasochistic? Anderson is so effective w/ scenes of pain and suffering I actually have to be careful which of his films I watch in theaters. During TWBB and TM I came close to panic attacks...

rb (soda), Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:13 (one week ago) Permalink

this movie is incredible

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:35 (one week ago) Permalink

i finished watching it and immediately bought a ticket for a 70mm showing

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:37 (one week ago) Permalink

soda: not in a way you would expect, but yes, discreetly.

costume designer Mark Bridges:

I always do try to keep in mind how things are going to photograph. That’s why there’s not a ton of black in the film. I don’t love how black photographs. We made a tux for Daniel that was black. I had hoped it would be like a midnight blue, but at the end we decided on black. So I’m always mindful, as a cinema costume designer, how things photograph, but then I also try to use fabrics that would have been used at the time and be realistic about that. We had a lot of sources: Some of the fabrics came from Italy, some from America, some from London — just trying to get all of the fabrics that evoke the 1950s that were still around....

I always try to take a backseat to what the actor is doing. Especially Lesley Manville: I love it that you’re referring to her dresses as black because Paul wanted them black, and I said, “No, no, no. We have to do them in gray, so they photograph with a little bit of life to them.” It can’t be like running around in a nunnery or something. It’s already a tough, mysterious character who’s solitary. I originally wanted her to be a navy, but Paul had the idea of black. So we settled somewhere quite comfortably in this gray motif for her work clothes. We were informed by the women who were, essentially, the saleswomen at Balenciaga, and you see it all the way through any reference to that period: They would wear navy and pearls, very simple, and allow the fashions to stand out, and I think that’s what we did with Lesley. Of course, she has impeccable tailoring, she is representing the house, but the darkness of her business attire was really something Paul wanted to go with Lesley’s pale skin. There’s also charting “fisherman’s daughter into designer’s muse” as far as Alma goes. But then there’s also trying to be time and place appropriate, and not upstage or take you out of the story with something fancy that’s going to distract you. The things that do distract you in this story are story points, so I feel OK about that.

http://filmmakermagazine.com/104097-clothes-make-the-man/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:26 (one week ago) Permalink

I loved this, of course

Basically a romantic comedy

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:44 (four days ago) Permalink

I enjoy PTA’s seemingly central concern with the relationships of emotionally stunted monomaniac weirdos

Anyway since I’m a weirdo I thought this was the most romantic thing I’ve seen since the Mad Max Fury Road blood donation scene

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:50 (four days ago) Permalink

Johnny Greenwood exceeded himself here I think.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:52 (four days ago) Permalink

Quite a remarkable film. Per Morbz's comments earlier, you sense the cinematic bedrock but it doesn't stay there. Score, costume and cinematography all standouts but the shifting dynamics between the central three actors carried them all even further.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:35 (two days ago) Permalink

I liked that despite being a “period piece” this could easily have taken place in the future

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:47 (two days ago) Permalink

Yeah the trappings and setting are far from unimportant, but this isn't a _Crown_-style hyperfetishization and formalism.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:52 (two days ago) Permalink

Has anyone here yet seen it in a 70mm screening? If yes, is it worth a surcharge? (Will probably see it tomorrow in 70mm.)

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Monday, 15 January 2018 00:03 (yesterday) Permalink

Yeah that was the screening we saw -- it looked great and the brochure's nice, but make or break, I dunno. There's enough gorgeous shots happening to make it all work in that format, though.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 January 2018 00:20 (yesterday) Permalink

i didn't pay a surcharge... however, by the 10th day of projection, there were already hairline scratches in the print.

PTA actually shot it in 35, it was blown up to 70.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 January 2018 02:50 (yesterday) Permalink

I absolutely loved this and plan to see it again ASAP.

ryan, Monday, 15 January 2018 02:59 (yesterday) Permalink

Going for round 2 tomorrow

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Monday, 15 January 2018 05:27 (yesterday) Permalink

excuse my ignorance but what would be the advantage of seeing it on 70MM rather than on digital which, presumably has the same ratio and will be projected at the same size? will it be discernably different?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 15 January 2018 22:27 (yesterday) Permalink

texture, babe

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:51 (twenty-one hours ago) Permalink

grain

scratches

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:58 (twenty-one hours ago) Permalink


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