rolling trump-russian collusion

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maybe it's time to de-poll

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 December 2017 23:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

a quick poll about Russia and Donald Trump

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 December 2017 23:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

On Dec. 29, a transition adviser to Mr. Trump, K. T. McFarland, wrote in an email to a colleague that sanctions announced hours before by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russian election meddling were aimed at discrediting Mr. Trump's victory. The sanctions could also make it much harder for Mr. Trump to ease tensions with Russia, "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him," she wrote in the emails obtained by The Times.

It is not clear whether Ms. McFarland was saying she believed that the election had in fact been thrown. A White House lawyer said on Friday that she meant only that the Democrats were portraying it that way.

But it is evident from the emails - which were obtained from someone who had access to transition team communications - that after learning that President Barack Obama would expel 35 Russian diplomats, the Trump team quickly strategized about how to reassure Russia. The Trump advisers feared that a cycle of retaliation between the United States and Russia would keep the spotlight on Moscow's election meddling, tarnishing Mr. Trump's victory and potentially hobbling his presidency from the start.

As part of the outreach, Ms. McFarland wrote, Mr. Flynn would be speaking with the Russian ambassador, Mr. Kislyak, hours after Mr. Obama's sanctions were announced.

"Key will be Russia's response over the next few days," Ms. McFarland wrote in an email to another transition official, Thomas P. Bossert, now the president's homeland security adviser.

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 December 2017 23:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

Cost of Mueller investigation to date: $5 million
Number charged or pled guilty as a result: Four

Cost of investigation of Hillary Clinton's role in Benghazi: $100+ million
Number charged or pled guilty as a result: None

Cost of GOP Tax Scam: $1,500,000,000,000
Number damaged: 323,000,000 give or take a few dozen.

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 December 2017 00:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

U.S. House Republicans are drafting a contempt of Congress resolution against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, claiming stonewalling in producing material related to the Russia-Trump probes and other matters.

Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes and other committee Republicans, after considering such action for several weeks, decided to move after media, including the New York Times, reported Saturday on why a top FBI official assigned to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of Russia-Trump election collusion had been removed from the investigation.

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 December 2017 19:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

we need to stand by our russian allies

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

ten cups of coffee says Haley was just shooting from the hip with that random shit

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

"The obstructionist Democrats are going to shut down the olympics, because weak on crime, and Alabama, and the Supreme Court!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

I read it again - that’s pretty classic completely-unprepared-for-the-question ad-libbing, except as an unelected official with a limited remit she could’ve said “nothing’s changed about our commitment to the Olympic Games but we are of course keeping a close eye on the situation” - but no, full derp; then again it accidentally throws the State Department under the bus, so that’s a bonus for this administration

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

and then there were five . . . bannon, kushner, pence, don jr, don sr

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

maybe six if you count sessions

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

Don Jr.'s b.s. attorney-client privilege defense - that he doesn't have to reveal a conversation with his dad because there was an attorney in the room or whatever - seems like such shit that I assume he's begging for a subpoena or otherwise risks contempt.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

It’s as if his counsel did a completely terrible job preparing him for the interview

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

& I’m guessing most of these fucking yokels are stupid enough to lie to their own lawyers, so it might not even be his attorneys’ fault

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

We're dealing with matryoshka dolls of lawyers with their own lawyers.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

former KGB agents pulled off the most epic maskirovka troll of all time -- hijack the GOP/koch/fox nation put an un-dentured (pun intended!) servant in the white house whose debt they own. go capitalism

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

even charter school chait is starting to catch on

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

a greek, stephanopolous is providing cover for another greek here, a covfefe boy merely ~

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 8 December 2017 13:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

uh oh sure looks like ol' 2spurs instructed general flynndictment to lie to the FBI. who ever would have guessed?

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

Excited to see the progresssion of these nicknames.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

i started callin him "ol cloggy veins" but it's not caught on.

correlated noise of conformity (Hunt3r), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

just don't call him 2terms

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

Ol Rexxon accidentally spilled the beans?? Pretty sure little yam hands isn’t gonna like that.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 18:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

"a pussy-grabbing casino bankrupt who’s coherent for about 20 minutes in the morning" doesn't quite roll off the tongue nerdstrom poindexter

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

settle down

Literally no part of this is "exclusive." This meeting was televised live to entire @StateDept press corps. And Tillerson says this all the time. See: Wilson Center speech two weeks ago, OSCE speech last week in Vienna

— Josh Lederman (@joshledermanAP) December 12, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

what does sir richard dearlove know about anything anyways?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:37 (eight months ago) Permalink


BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, but other than all those facts, what do they have? Nothing! Fake white paper!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 December 2017 22:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

deep lurching dread, all this stuff gives me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

fake news, witch hunt, drivel

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 01:27 (seven months ago) Permalink

the 'law & order' republican congress is investigating the FBI (who refused to disclose to the american public that they were investigating russia for influence on the trump campaign) . . . for bias against donald trump. you go, jim jordan and devin nunes. this is where america is in the age of putin :)

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

The GOP have taught me that I can do basically whatever I want as long as I couch it in terms that sound reasonable to those affected by my actions.

Me: 'I'm a patriot, and law and order are my paramount concerns.' (simultaneously and impressively burns down someone's house while shitting on an American flag)
My victims: 'He's such a patriot, and his respect for law and order is truly admirable.'
Me: 'PS, I can't believe the Democrats just burned down your house. Sad!'

Encyclopedia Beige and the Case of the Bland Sandwich (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

a GOParable: FBI agent preter strzok reacting to the trump campaign lying about russian contacts they were warned to avoid is the real villainy here

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

I know modern conservatives have no politics outside of resentment but it’s still been pretty wild watching the “blue lives matter” crowd call for the disbanding and prosecution of the entire FBI

— KT NELSON (@KrangTNelson) December 14, 2017

frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

“this secular religion” *closes lrb*

y'know, LIBS! libertarians, libertines, even liberians and librarians (Hunt3r), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

not interested in male opinions on this particular theory tbh

maura, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

Intriguing question asked: what does it mean that Rod Rosenstein has not yet recused himself?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

2/2 Imagine a case involving a major drug ring. Investigators bypass the leaders, their lieutenants, regional dealers, money people & so forth and go straight to prosecuting a neighbor who disclosed the gang to the press. This makes just about that much sense.

— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 5, 2018

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

to go with the bad analogy: the major drug ring is being investigated and no drugs have been found

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

but they're swimming in contraband vodka

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 21:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

Hard to process the idea of anyone currently thinking there’s nothing to the Russia investigation.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 5 January 2018 22:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

If the Russians were out to defeat Hillary Clinton (which every intelligence agency says they were), why would try to damage her opponent?

If the Trump team is innocent, why have they consistently lied about almost every aspect of the Russia investigation?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 22:39 (seven months ago) Permalink

Also there have been indictments, guilty pleas, publicly admitting to obstructing the investigation, almost everything Trump does and says etc

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 5 January 2018 22:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

feel like there's enough out there in public to make a strong case for a half dozen cases of obstruction of justice, if nothing else

also think that if Trump & his gang were ever straight up offered a quid pro quo like this they'd gleefully accept w/o knowing that such a thing would even be illegal

all that said most likely outcome seems to be a zillion crimes getting uncovered and the House and Senate doing fuck all about it besides trying to throw Mueller in jail

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2018 22:59 (seven months ago) Permalink

The special counsel’s filing to a Washington DC’s district court yesterday included Manafort’s messages, described as “an effort to secure materially false testimony.” Manafort messaged people from The Hapsburg Group, a firm he worked with and funded to lobby for Ukraine’s interests in the United States. According to the filing, he was trying to convince them to lie to investigators about the group’s activities.

WhatsApp has a setting that automatically backs up messages to iCloud. If enabled, this would render the app’s famous end-to-end encryption useless in terms of hiding from law enforcement equipped with a search warrant. The US government routinely requests information from internet companies through warrants and subpoenas.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 04:24 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Pretty crazy story. Worth noting that Wheeler began very skeptical of this whole “Russiagate” thing.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:11 (one month ago) Permalink

I still don't get the thrust of that post? This guy approached her with info, turned out to be correct and she offered it to the feds? She's kind of burning him now but not clear as to why and to what the threat to her actually is.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:52 (one month ago) Permalink

i read this as "i burned a person of interest to the matter. i wont burn them publicly yet, but here is some proof i was in contact with a person of interest. i am scared. if anything happens to me, here is a trail to the person i burned to the fbi. i have little faith that ultimately the fbi can protect me under this administration, or will necessarily investigate fully due to circumstances. public notice might help so here."

it's not very clear, that's a...sea of inferences by me?

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 17:32 (one month ago) Permalink

curious who it is.. at first I was thinking roger stone but not sure he would talk about 1 humint ratings

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:00 (one month ago) Permalink

its Greenwald. I can't imagine it would be anyone else

the whole thing is written in a confusing way but I think the gist is that someone - most likely a journalist - had inside info about Flynn's plan to make good on (presumably) quid pro quo arrangements immediately after the election was called, and wound up going to the FBI about it. coming from Wheeler (who was always skeptical of this whole thing) this sounds like...a pretty big deal??

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:14 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s probably not Greenwald because he hasn’t commented on it yet and has been posting about Louise Mensch all day.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Also it seems more like a roger stone character is more likely to present connections to other actors/bad actors who might possibly be threatening to a journo.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Someone asked if the person was a journalist and she said “no”

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:50 (one month ago) Permalink

it’s quintuple-agent carter page obv

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:53 (one month ago) Permalink

not journo could still be greenwald then amirite xp

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:54 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s probably not Greenwald because he hasn’t commented on it yet and has been posting about Louise Mensch all day.

Reading this sentence, I felt the void open up below me and there's nothing but shouting stupidity in there.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:40 (one month ago) Permalink

hey what do you know, Trump is planning to meet with Putin one-on-one, with no aids or note takers or, you know, witnesses.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Two Scoops doesn't want anyone to see Putin kiss him on the belly, like a kitten

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Honestly, among the most damning and suspicious things is that he has no idiotic nickname for Putin.

— Emily Nussbaum (@emilynussbaum) July 12, 2018


𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Or Avenatti!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 July 2018 21:10 (one month ago) Permalink

yea Trump's silence on Avenatti and the whole Stormy situation is pretty telling to me

frogbs, Thursday, 12 July 2018 21:11 (one month ago) Permalink

“I don’t think in the history of the department there’s ever been anybody so ill-prepared” for this job, says Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), who has been one of the chief agitators against Benczkowski’s nomination. He says Benczkowski has “barely set foot in a courtroom.” (Benczkowski has never prosecuted a case.) He continues, “So if the obvious reason for why you’d want him there is not evident, then you have to look for less obvious reasons.”

our "conservative" republican friends are such traditionalists and strict originalists that when they ram a candidate through with zero relevant experiences, it can only be because freedom, liberty, tax cuts, and small government. free paul manafort! fire rosenstein! mire mueller! lock strzok up!!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 July 2018 11:39 (one month ago) Permalink

these comments help clarify the wheeler thing quite a bit

Trip says:
July 3, 2018 at 10:53 am
I’m confused (what else is new, amirite?). You mention that this person is lying, but then state that the text was, in essence, corroborated. So it’s not clear my excessive-heat fogged out brain what the lie is. Was it about the person’s true intentions? It’s weird to share that type of info that is kind of true and then spread disinformation. I might have an inkling about the source, but it would only be speculation, which I’m not gonna share.

Be safe. Holy shit, life comes at you fast.

dc says:
July 3, 2018 at 11:41 am
She indicated in a twitter post that the text correctly predicted what happened, and implied that the person told lies about other subjects. Marcy can correct me if I am wrong, but thought I would help out to close the loop on this question.

i'm still not quite sure how a journalist could play a 'significant role' in this though? as she says:

“a person whom I had come to believe had played a significant role in the Russian election attack on the US”.

unless she just means running interference over the media but there's plenty of that to go around as it is

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 21:29 (one month ago) Permalink

like a ‘journalistic telationship’ doesn’t mean the person is a journalist, it’s more that she’s burning a source

idk i’m still a little confused. seems like a bit of well-thought out ass-covering for a very specific situation she anticipates playing out further

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 21:41 (one month ago) Permalink

still have to listen, but pertinent:

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 22:31 (one month ago) Permalink

okay this interview is way better than her post, listen to it

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 23:49 (one month ago) Permalink

strongly insinuates greenwald

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 23:50 (one month ago) Permalink

As the source? Huh?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:09 (one month ago) Permalink

skip to 8:30

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:22 (one month ago) Permalink

eh frankly i'm not terribly smart so don't listen to me. it still sounds like an actor in the campaign, idk. stone also admitted he was the unnamed collaborator in the indictment which was like pointing out that the sky is blue

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Seeing people link old articles about the Podesta hacks from the election is infuriating. This one might be the worst, if only because it includes a Clinton operative stating everything we now know to be fact, and being completely dismissed:

Frederik B, Monday, 16 July 2018 07:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Good point, we should have his tax returns.

But you know who likely has his tax returns? Mueller.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:03 (four weeks ago) Permalink

One of the two authors of that Paste article (H.A. Goodman who pushed some bizarre “Bernie can still win this” theories) has since become an open and unapologetic Trump supporter and the other (Walker Bragman) wrote the “Liberal case for Trump” piece for Salon during the election.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe it’s healthy to acknowledge that horseshoe theory is at least a little bit real.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink

HA Goodman has always been the worst kind of troll, he was disgusting during the primaries in 16 and it was clear he was in it more for the followers than the movement

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:55 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah dragging up a paste magazine piece by those two is some pretty impressive cherry picking. IIRC the main reason anybody read that in the first place was because people were making fun of tweedle-dee & -dum.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 17:27 (four weeks ago) Permalink

nastya rybka has said that she’s only going to give her tapes to.... oleg deripaska, in exchange for “a date and flowers.”

maura, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:44 (four weeks ago) Permalink

man i wish my nickname was 'sex huntress'

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:53 (four weeks ago) Permalink

trump temptress

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i keep thinking 'reality is broken' so its only fitting that we're seeing calls to free reality winner imo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

when i see her name in a sentence it just looks like broken grammar to me, until i remember "that's a person!"

Hunt3r, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:48 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Reality Winner being the only person thus far to go to jail over all this pretty much sums up where America is at right now

frogbs, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

manafort is in jail awaiting trial fyi

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:25 (four weeks ago) Permalink

but not for this specifically, right? wasn't he indicted on 400 separate crimes?

frogbs, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:52 (four weeks ago) Permalink

here’s an interesting tweet from 2016 about maria butina meeting with “nra member” trump

Мария Бутина сейчас в США. Пишет мне, что Д.Трамп (член NRA) реально за сотрудничество с Россией.

— А.П. Торшин (@torshin_ru) February 14, 2016

maura, Friday, 20 July 2018 01:46 (four weeks ago) Permalink

*taps screen* is this thing broken?

Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Friday, 20 July 2018 09:16 (four weeks ago) Permalink

if you click through you can translate jt

maura, Friday, 20 July 2018 12:51 (four weeks ago) Permalink

This last observation leads me to the second point. My strong sense, based on what we know so far, is that Moscow needed convincing to pivot toward going “all in” on a Trump victory. This, by the way, is the context for existing evidence of collusion:. Various individuals affiliated with the Trump campaign tried to secure Russian support. Trump himself signaled in public that he was amenable to striking a partnership.


In this light, Moscow’s decision to back Trump was an enormous gamble—and it looks more like a desperate ‘Hail Mary’ than a strategically savvy decision. Sometimes, leaders make bad choices that nonetheless work out well. For this one to work out comes down to a horse-race: Can Trump do enough damage to American power, leadership, and influence before he’s gone? Can he lock-in a Republican shift against NATO and for Russia by 2020 or 2024? Will that be enough if the next President wants payback?

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 July 2018 13:25 (four weeks ago) Permalink

"Is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to President Trump, including the fact that we had a very nasty & contentious business relationship, I turned him down to head the FBI (one day before appointment as S.C.) & Comey is his close friend.."

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 29 July 2018 21:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Lotta Diet Coke Thoughts in today's Tweets...

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 July 2018 21:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

rolling remunerative trump-kremlin conspiracy

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 6 August 2018 21:41 (one week ago) Permalink

The only questions that remain are whether the collusion that took place constituted criminally liable conspiracy, whether obstruction of justice occurred to cover up any collusion or conspiracy, and how many members of “Trump Incorporated” attempted to defraud the government by laundering and concealing the movement of money into their pockets.

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 August 2018 11:06 (yesterday) Permalink

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