Oscars 2018

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visual effects longlist

Alien: Covenant
Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
Ghost in the Shell
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
Justice League
Kong: Skull Island
Life
Logan
Okja
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
The Shape of Water
Spider-Man Homecoming
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Thor: Ragnarok
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
War for the Planet of the Apes
Wonder Woman

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Justice League

This the Henry Cavill 'stache coverup job?

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Apes ftw. A pretty amazing showcase for how far cgi has come.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:18 (five months ago) Permalink

This the Henry Cavill 'stache coverup job?

― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.),

I thought this was the Henry Cavill sexuality coverup job

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:19 (five months ago) Permalink

also, we neglected the Governors Awards

“It is a big event, very serious,” Varda said, receiving an honorary Oscar for her six-decade filmmaking career as a feminist trailblazer and a French New Wave pioneer. “But if I have to choose between serious and lightness, I choose lightness.” With that, Varda grabbed the hand of presenter Angelina Jolie and began an impromptu dance to the jazz music playing in the ballroom, her distinctive, two-tone pageboy haircut shaking as she shuffled.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/WyiAGbahDwc

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/governors-awards-2017-oscars-harvey-weinstein

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:20 (five months ago) Permalink

while Angelina Jolie's distinctive monochrome ex-husband looked on

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:22 (five months ago) Permalink

I hope Ladybird is up for editing

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:23 (five months ago) Permalink

wonder how many of 2018’s nominations will be accused of sexual harassment between now and then

Dic Space has been contacted for comment. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:26 (five months ago) Permalink

Or how Casey Affleck is going to handle presenting Best Actress.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:47 (five months ago) Permalink

imagine being the writer for that segment

hoping he will absent himself

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:57 (five months ago) Permalink

from this mortal coil

Dic Space has been contacted for comment. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:06 (five months ago) Permalink

I'm picturing the prompter just displaying [good luck pal]

Simon H., Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:06 (five months ago) Permalink

Foreign finalists:

Chile: A Fantastic Woman, Sebastián Lelio
Germany: In the Fade, Fatih Akin
Hungary: On Body and Soul, Ildikó Enyedi
Israel: Foxtrot, Samuel Maoz
Lebanon: The Insult, Ziad Doueiri
Russia: Loveless, Andrey Zvyagintsev
Senegal: Félicité, Alain Gomis
South Africa: The Wound, John Trengove
Sweden: The Square, Ruben Östlund

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:30 (five months ago) Permalink

Is there still that side committee that rescues one not-horribly-embarrassing film to secure a slot in the rundown? Can't remember how that's worked in the past, but this year's slate looks to be brimming with pap.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:32 (five months ago) Permalink

Damn, I was really hoping Zama would make it in.

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:34 (five months ago) Permalink

How so more than usual?

Frederik B, Friday, 15 December 2017 14:34 (five months ago) Permalink

In that even the vanguard selections here are things like The Square.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:45 (five months ago) Permalink

I guess there's the possibility that Loveless is "the one." I haven't seen it yet.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:46 (five months ago) Permalink

BPM missing, no surprise

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 December 2017 15:00 (five months ago) Permalink

I thought it had a shot, but evidently this year's committee was feeling extra antediluvian.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2017 15:11 (five months ago) Permalink

I wondered where Sacred Deer was until I remembered that only the delivery was foreign.

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 15:12 (five months ago) Permalink

The inclusion of things like On Body and Soul, a Fantastic Woman and Felicité seems a bit more daring than usual imo. Or at least business as usual. I don't think it's worse than it always is. Except that Denmark isn't on there for the first time in a while.

Frederik B, Friday, 15 December 2017 15:34 (five months ago) Permalink

Here we go:

'Florida Project' producer accused of sexual misconduct
By LINDSEY BAHR
AP Film Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- "The Florida Project" producer Andrew Duncan has been accused of sexual misconduct by a dozen anonymous women and is stepping down from his company June Pictures.

Duncan in a statement Friday disputes the allegations, calling them either distorted or demonstrably false. He accuses rivals of "taking advantage of the news climate" and trying to undermine his financial prospects.

The Hollywood Reporter detailed accounts from multiple women alleging various kinds of misconduct on or around film sets ranging from inappropriate suggestions to kissing and groping without consent.

Alex Saks is taking sole control of June Pictures in Duncan's absence.

In addition to "The Florida Project," considered a candidate for best picture at the Oscars, June Pictures produced Paul Dano's directorial debut "Wildlife" and "Book Club," with Diane Keaton and Jane Fonda.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:28 (five months ago) Permalink

get that song oscar to fuck, jesus.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 01:04 (five months ago) Permalink

is there a fee for getting on a longlist?

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 01:36 (five months ago) Permalink

gotta be Dunkirk for score, no one else should even bother showing up.

piscesx, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 01:53 (five months ago) Permalink

I listened to the first 10 songs

"U.N.I"
Ed Sheeran glop. Has a speed rap portion that reminds me of "One Week".

"Love and Lies" - Band Aid
garbage indie pop collaboration. has some fred armisen involvement.

"If I Dare"
too many different sections. sounds like it was created by committee. something vague about girl power.

"Evermore" -- B&tB
Disney formula song, still aiming for that Whitney Houston moment. Lyrics seem to be about the beast being a stalker.

"How Does A Moment Last Forever" -- B&tB
Barely exists in the film. Has a longer Celine Dion version that suuuucks.

"Now or Never" - Bloodline: Now or Never
unrelated to the halsey song with 44M views on youtube. also unrelated to the netflix series. cheesy dance song with a horn hook. no chance.

"She" -- can't find it

“Your Hand I Will Never Let It Go” from “The Book of Henry”
Stevie Nicks! Too bad it sucks. the type of inspirational glop the academy likes.

“Buddy’s Business” from “Brawl in Cell Block 99”
O'Jays. retro but i like it. in the style of those great blaxploitation songs where the lyrics recap the plot.

“The Crown Sleeps” from “The Breadwinner”
a soft song with 'ethnic' touches. not bad actually.

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 02:07 (five months ago) Permalink

get that song oscar to fuck, jesus

Sad to find that there isn't a song on the longlist called "Fuck, Jesus."

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 04:19 (five months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

uh oh!

https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/2018-oscar-nomination-predictions

(re the intro, as if i need another reason to hate figure skaters)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:46 (four months ago) Permalink

Have you seen his butt?! Up there with the best inline skaters, it is.

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 21:03 (four months ago) Permalink

They're just the worst kind of queens imho.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2018 21:14 (four months ago) Permalink

(worse than the ones complaining about Phantom Thread being 'closeted')

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2018 21:15 (four months ago) Permalink

They're just the youngest kind of queens, is what you're saying.

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 21:40 (four months ago) Permalink

so swishy in her satin and tat

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 January 2018 21:41 (four months ago) Permalink

idk if this is the place to talk about phantom thread but that movie was fucking incredible

treeship 2, Saturday, 20 January 2018 06:32 (four months ago) Permalink

We have a Phantom Thread thread that needs some livening up.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Saturday, 20 January 2018 06:36 (four months ago) Permalink

So will Jonny Greenwood sneak into the score category?

http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2018/1/20/final-oscar-predictions-in-every-single-category.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:50 (four months ago) Permalink

is PTA ever going to win an Oscar for writing or directing

flappy bird, Monday, 22 January 2018 17:52 (four months ago) Permalink

Nominations going live as I type

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:27 (three months ago) Permalink

woah at Mudbound's Rachel Morrison being the first female DP to get a nom

Simon H., Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:32 (three months ago) Permalink

lmk if Sean Price Williams gets in

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:35 (three months ago) Permalink

So will Jonny Greenwood sneak into the score category?

Yup!

Baby Driver got in for editing, the only thing it deserves really

Simon H., Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:36 (three months ago) Permalink

god they've divided nomination announcements in half. We gotta await another couple minutes for the big ones.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:36 (three months ago) Permalink

Leslie Manville! Mary J. Blige!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:39 (three months ago) Permalink

Octavia Spencer this generation's Thelma Ritter.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:39 (three months ago) Permalink

Ugh – Christopher Plummer and Three Ebbings dudes in Supporting Actor. Nobody from Call Me By Your Name.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:40 (three months ago) Permalink

Greenwood in for score

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:42 (three months ago) Permalink

has anyone seen any of the non-Square Foreign Pic nominees?

Simon H., Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:43 (three months ago) Permalink

"The movies," past or present, have lost more than half of their cultural primacy even since the '70s. In the '70s they had at most half of what they had in the early '50s.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Maybe overall, but I don't think there are any single films from the '50s--not Waterfront, Blackboard Jungle, The Defiant Ones, or anything--that had the large-scale impact of The Godfather or The Exorcist in terms of how much they were talked about and how much they were seen. And I'd add at least two or three others to that list.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:01 (two months ago) Permalink

@clemenza - I would hazard that in daily life, Rocky gets invoked far, far more often than those other films, and not just in terms of like "yo, adrian!" impressions. the resolution/meaning of the final fight and going the distance and all that, the redeemed schmuck, etc., people relate to all that and it's a useful symbol. it launched a franchise because millions of people loved it. dunno if those people were part of "the conversation" but it's a different kind of thing from nobody remembering or wanting to watch Crash/English Patient/etc.

also not sure how conventional/old-fashioned it is. in its overall arc, sure, but it's very much a gritty urban 70s movie and iirc it's not really paced or lit or shot like i expected from an underdog sports movie. its closest peer in terms of palette is probably Midnight Cowboy.

The Sting had an impact too, just less enduringly and less significantly. as i realized in the claustrophobic poster thread, there were a LOT of 20s-era caper films, and/or period heist films, hoping to replicate its return-on-investment. basically all of them are forgotten now of course. also sold a lot of ragtime records. minor, but still more significant to the culture at large than idk Driving Miss Daisy.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:02 (two months ago) Permalink

but it's very much a gritty urban 70s movie

It did have a director who'd made Joe and Save the Tiger. So that's fair--it wasn't exactly the rah-rah Reagan stuff that came a decade later.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:06 (two months ago) Permalink

(But I still see it as a much more conventional film than the three runners-up I mentioned.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Both of you are right.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:22 (two months ago) Permalink

According to the new Saturday Night Fever Bee Gees bio I just finished, Avildsen was first pick to direct but was fired for already trying to turn every project into a Balboa picture.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Saturday Night Fever is a film that I'd be more inclined to describe the way casino describes Rocky--misremembered as just a big box-office entertainment, but in fact very much aligned with its era, almost as dark and nasty as Taxi Driver at times.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:46 (two months ago) Permalink

agreed.

it's funny that Rocky won, looking at the rest of the awards which were basically the Network show....

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:48 (two months ago) Permalink

know you balk at these statements, darraghmac, but there are certain films that get talked about and debated much more than others. Do the Right Thing, Thelma & Louise, Get Out--such films are big deals.

I ball, if I do, because you've already admitted this is at best subjective and at worst and a little less generously wilfully....if not elitist call it rather selective....about what counts as "talked about" and, I'd suspect, by whom

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I ball baby u better believe it

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:17 (two months ago) Permalink

Rocky is as iconic a film as it gets, imo. Unlike many best picture winners. From theme to several scenes, if only for the training montage.

Agree that Saturday Night Fever is daaaaaark, a gritty '70s films juxtaposed with the least gritty '70s music.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:19 (two months ago) Permalink

SNF is a tough movie I'd say moreso than taxi driver which at least has an outsider protagonist

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Rocky was iconic to Tony Manero, who had the poster up in his bedroom in SNF

Josefa, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Rocky is one of the most popular films the second half of the 20th century, spawned a franchise that earned Stallone an Oscar nod in 2015 fergodsake

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Here's a list of Best Picture winners ranked by estimated tickets sold (source here: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm?adjust_yr=1&p=.htm):

1. Gone with the Wind (1st overall)
2. The Sound of Music (3rd overall)
3. Titanic (5th overall)
4. Ben-Hur (14th overall)
5. The Sting (20th overall)
6. The Godfather (25th overall)
7. Forrest Gump (26th overall)
8. Around the World in 80 Days (50th overall)
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (55th overall)
10. My Fair Lady (61st overall)
11. The Greatest Show on Earth (62nd overall)
12. West Side Story (75th overall)
13. Lawrence of Arabia (79th overall)
14. Rocky (81st overall)
15. The Best Years of Our Lives (83rd overall)

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:01 (two months ago) Permalink

As you can tell, I'm not much of a Rocky. So maybe I'm letting my own opinion interfere too much there.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:02 (two months ago) Permalink

Oops! "much of a Rocky fan"--the other goes without saying.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:03 (two months ago) Permalink

(I think I want "As you can tell, I'm not much of Rocky" on my tombstone, though.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Ha

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Rocky still >> Network

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Network is sooooo good except for the stuff that's pretty dumb. Or rather, there's a mismatch between the OTT satire stuff and the human drama stuff with Bill Holden (which both are viable in themselves). They collide in his big talking-at-her takedown speech with Faye Dunaway and it suddenly becomes a much meaner-spirited, lecturey movie. A slower build with the craziness of the Beale Show would also work better. I'd be okay with it winning but I also think Rocky is cool.

See: 1976 Oscar Nominees

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Rocky owes a considerable debt to every boxing picture ever made (especially the shallow ones) as well as On the Waterfront.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:57 (two months ago) Permalink

(and Marty)

(haha Paddy Chayefsky, you got played by your own formula)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:58 (two months ago) Permalink

1969 Oscars: Actresses sound off on lack of roles for women. pic.twitter.com/5Gxilt3CKZ

— izzycc (@lookwhoitiz) March 5, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 18:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Network isnt too far off three billboards folks.

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 18:10 (two months ago) Permalink

otm

flappy bird, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 18:45 (two months ago) Permalink

That's a great clip from '69, and credit to the five actresses for being 50 years ahead of where we are now, but I'm not sure if 2001 or The Battle of Algiers are the best films to target (or the complaint that a newcomer has the lead in Romeo and Juliet). I know, I know, it's meant to be partly lighthearted.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:52 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean, they could've at least nominated Polanski for Rosemary's Baby or Cassavetes for Faces to short circuit the argument if only a tad.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Also ...

5. The Sting (20th overall)
6. The Godfather (25th overall)

I know I've seen it spelled out time and again, but I can not fathom The Sting being the culture-swallowing event that by all indications it was.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:28 (two months ago) Permalink

It had two huge movie stars and there was the whole Scott Joplin revival, I guess. That's it. I was there!

It's a function of a movie sticking around in theaters for 18 months and people saying "let's go see Newman and Redford." I believe there was also a re-release tagline, "The con is better the second time around."

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:39 (two months ago) Permalink

The Sting is - how you say? - a piffle.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:40 (two months ago) Permalink

xpost Maybe that was the tag for the sequel?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean, there are worse simple entertainments. Like The Sting II, I suppose.

I don't think it was for the sequel.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:44 (two months ago) Permalink

The sting is great fun I wouldn't necessarily defend it as best picture tbf

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:54 (two months ago) Permalink

1973 was a weak Bedt Picture year. Only Cries and Whispers is remotely great.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:00 (two months ago) Permalink

my god A Touch of Class.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:06 (two months ago) Permalink

The Sting might be the most movie-as-comfort-food endeavor I've seen

mh, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:12 (two months ago) Permalink

like your average Dozvzhenko?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Is it really any lesser than Butch Cassidy? (Maybe a little.) It just gets dumped on for winning the Oscar.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:21 (two months ago) Permalink

It's a lot tighter than butch cassidy

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:26 (two months ago) Permalink

well, BC&SK is more languorous, what the kidz call a hangout movie. It has that unforgivable bike/Bacharch scene; George Roy Hill was all about musical anachronisms.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:30 (two months ago) Permalink

The Sting is a good flick, it aired all the time on TV when i was a kid and i thought it was pretty breezy entertainment. pretty lightweight though i mean some woman gets shot through the head iirc, so it wasn't exactly totally lightweight.

omar little, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Redford's only Best Actor nod

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:33 (two months ago) Permalink

and James Earl Jones' dad gets killed in the first 15 minutes.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:34 (two months ago) Permalink

(xpost) Didn't know that. He certainly would have been a better nominee in '72 for The Candidate than the two Sleuth guys (a film I don't mind, but Best Actor nominations?), and I'm kind of amazed neither guy was nominated for All the President's Men. I'd take them over everyone else except De Niro, although I guess I can see why they were passed over (probably had to be both or neither, and stepping back, I'm not sure which two of the five '76 nominees you'd eliminate).

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:07 (two months ago) Permalink

The Shape of Water is going to be a Rain Man BP winner, remembered for one thing: she fucked the fish.

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 March 2018 21:56 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't ... remember Dustin Hoffman doing that?

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

remembered for one thing i mean.

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:23 (two months ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/_V0VM-cwzBI?t=1m2s

adam the (abanana), Monday, 12 March 2018 05:06 (two months ago) Permalink


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