that's a lot of adjectives to live down
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link
if Slant's picks prove correct and Get Out were to win ONLY Best Picture, it will be interpreted by many as a supreme act of tokenism.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
xps go to bed, old man.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link
And you're damned right it'll be tokenism. Until every category gets the ranked-choice treatment.
what's the fewest Oscars a BP has ever won?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link
I think Grand Hotel won just the one.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
Plus The Broadway Melody and Mutiny on the Bounty
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
In modern times, Spotlight only one two.
wow. 3 movies that have aged about as well as the hamfisted, evasive third act of Get Out will. xp
"politically acute genre miscalculation" works for me btw
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link
Any chance Jerry Lewis wins the obit montage? Didn't check any of the necrologies.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), 1. marts 2018 21:35 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm hoping we get a Rylance-type surprise -- anything
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 1. marts 2018 21:53 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wow. That's dark, Alfred.
― Frederik B, Friday, 2 March 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
I coined the term "genre miscegenation" with you in mind, as the very thing that irks Oscar voters' Ernest Borgnine demo.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
Nah, Ernest Borgnine comp doesn't work re Get Out. He wasn't above *appearing* in shit horror films, at least...
YEP IT WAS GONNA GO THERE
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
anyway Eric i appreciate yr calling Phantom Thread as Should Win (unless that was a combo vote)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link
Also, Grand Hotel is in like the 90th percentile for the first few decades of Oscar winners.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link
idgi, the 90th percentile re what?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
Decent pictures to win, I think.
The 1930s had some of the worst winners in history: Cimarron, The Broadway Melody, Cavalcade
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
OK, maybe 90th percentile is a stretch, but it's among the best of everything pre-Gone with the Wind.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
KJB hates it! Immune to all-star power, I guess.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
I'm not crazy about it either.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
I wouldn't kick it out of bed, though, which, admittedly, would be her considering its size.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
her=hard
All Quiet on the Western FrontIt Happened One NightYou Can't Take It with You
Those are the ones that I'll sit still for being called better. None of the rest.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
Of course, of the next decade after that, the only one that's worse than Grand Hotel is Mrs. Miniver.
The last third of You Can't Take It with You is a disgrace, where they tear up the play and turn it into a Capracorn faux class-conflict thing.
(ie GWTW is better)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link
Right, I'm counting GWTW as the first of the next batch.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
the year crash won (won 3 awards) was also the year martin mcdonagh won his first oscar (for best live short)
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
also, mcdonagh is now going out with fleabag (pheobe waller-bridge) but i don't know if fleabag has made it to north america.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
It Happened One Night is great
I think Get Out will win. the purging of the Academy voting rolls & abundance of diverse young voters can't be overstated imo. i mean, fucking Moonlight won best picture last year. I think Peele has a good shot at director & screenplay, too.
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 March 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
I'm sending Catherine Keener after you with a tea cup if you're wrong.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
i'll drink anything that woman gives me
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 March 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link
https://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/hamlet2_11.jpg
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link
I'm coming around to the Get Out argument
― Simon H., Friday, 2 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
Who was purged from the Academy? I didn't realise that has happened: I just thought they'd added new people to dilute the old crowd.
― Alba, Friday, 2 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
Billy Mumy. That's about it, but it's gonna make a huge difference.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
Is there still enough excitement about Get Out, though? It's been a year since it made its biggest impact. Moonlight was somewhat better timed for awards season.
― jmm, Friday, 2 March 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
maybe not as many as i thought: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/oscarssowhite-academy-struggles-diversity-age-885633
Four days after that, she sent all Academy members an email — and simultaneously issued a press release — revealing that the previous evening the board unanimously had authorized "a series of courageous steps." Among them: members who had not remained "active" in the business during a 10-year period since being invited to join the Academy — except for those who had been nominated for an Oscar or who had demonstrated activity in three consecutive decades since joining the Academy — would lose their voting privileges beginning in the 2016 awards cycle.
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 March 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link
xp - yes, Get Out has sustained excitement and every anonymous voter article i've read focusing on younger voters has them all voting for Get Out for Best Picture, Director, & Screenplay. one of them said that "Get Out is in my opinion the only masterpiece in the running this year." i'm positive Get Out will go down as the most important movie of the decade when the time comes.
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 March 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link
they didn't replace all the Old Guard, y'know.
movies are not important.
still, the BP tabulation method is fucking insane, eliminating low finishers and crediting 2nd/3rd place votes til one gets over 50%?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
and the whole notion of "awards season timing" and genre exclusions have gone out the window with younger voters. But there's an equally strong feeling among older voters who said "that's not an Oscar movie" and refused to see it. I still don't see what could win instead- Lady Bird feels like such a token pick, that one anonymous voter in the vulture article was otm: "this was a movie that five years ago would've been a hit at Sundance and got bought for 5-10 million" and "i'm glad Greta got nominated but it's ridiculous that Lady Bird is up against Phantom Thread and Dunkirk for Best Director."
xp- what's the old guard's pick? 3 Billboards? The Shape of Water?
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 March 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
also in that vulture piece someone brought up Gary Oldman's history of domestic abuse, which I didn't know about, and I don't think many Academy voters know about either. seems like all 4 acting categories are a wash- rockwell, janney, oldman, mcdormand. what do yall think?
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 March 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
Slant demurs
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
the "Scalia dissents" of the filmcrit world
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
I'm hoping for a Metcalf or Manville upset.
Oldman's personal history has been weirdly buried, yeah.
― Simon H., Friday, 2 March 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
but Kobe Bryant's cartoon is apparently poised to win, and he had a case dismissed...
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link
Dear Basketball, the ACTUAL worst movie nominated for an award this year outside of The Insult.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 2 March 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
I only just caught Get Out; it's merely good, kind of an A minus grade student art film? But I thought Kaluuya was <i>phenomenal</i>. Everything works in the movie because of Kaluuya, not Jordan Peele.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 2 March 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link
That is to say, phonomenal
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 2 March 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link
Please point me to some A-minus-grade student art films that are as good as Get Out. Seriously, it sounds I'd enjoy them, and there must a lot of them.
― JRN, Friday, 2 March 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link
if i could stan for any upset it would be Manville.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link