Barfly Best Practices

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A companion thread to Bartender Best Practices

calstars, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:24 (one year ago) Permalink

what happened to bar etiquette

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:26 (one year ago) Permalink

before you leave you gotta stick $20 in the Doggie Diamonds machine. I swear it's gonna hit any day now.

frogbs, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:27 (one year ago) Permalink

When unsure if a bar is open, approach from the opposite side of the street because

calstars, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:27 (one year ago) Permalink

be sure to lock the bathroom door before snorting that cocaine

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2017 19:31 (one year ago) Permalink

and if you do get caught, offer to share

frogbs, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:37 (one year ago) Permalink

tip your fucking bartender

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

with w33d

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2017 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink

if they smoke it, then definitely

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink

should be a list thread?

corollary to the above: don't smoke weed in the bar, not even in the smoking area

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:55 (one year ago) Permalink

A quick shake of salt on your cocktail napkin keeps it from sticking to the bottom of your glass.

You can use a straw to try someone else's drink without germ concerns (insert a straw, plug the top end with your thumb, lift it out and sample).

Ear wax and nose oil are good for dispelling bubbles (rub your nose or put your finger in your ear, then put the finger into excessively heady beer).

The old "dollar per drink" tip makes sense only for beer and rail drinks. 20% of pretax total is best for tabs that include more attentive service (hand muddling, etc.).

Coffee-based drinks consumed in the evening will usually be made with really terrible coffee.

If you don't want people to talk to you, work on a crossword puzzle or prop up a book on a condiment caddy. Protip: choose a very boring book or one with a nondescript cover, so no one tries to initiate conversation with "whatcha readin'?"

Darth be not proud (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:02 (one year ago) Permalink

If there is a TV tuned to Fox (even if it is muted) ask for it to be changed.

Darth be not proud (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:03 (one year ago) Permalink

if it doesn't fold, it isn't a tip (exceptions for regulars may apply)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Depends on the amount

calstars, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:10 (one year ago) Permalink

this thread and the weather today make me want to go spend a few hours at my local tbh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:11 (one year ago) Permalink

haha otm

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:12 (one year ago) Permalink

See you there dude

calstars, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:13 (one year ago) Permalink

Sometimes a regular sitting near the taps gets to have a partial beer left by a dead keg (and yes it is still a free drink that you should consider when tipping).

General tipping guidance (may not apply for non-USians) is that you shouldn't try to punish a bad service experience with an insultingly small tip because you end up screwing over people who were not responsible.

If you had three glasses of the same wine, you could have bought the bottle.

Note: UK-style "and for yourself?" tipping does not work well in USian bars, as the bar staff is usually not drinking during working hours. I have seen people try to do it and it fell flat.

Darth be not proud (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

cocktail napkins are so beyond horrible, there is this wonderful invention called the coaster...

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Who knows what life is or where it’s going
So cheers

calstars, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Always pay with cash. This eliminates the risks of:

- Forgetting your credit card
- the bartender taking advantage of your inebriation to overcharge you

calstars, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Also bar staff (and other service workers) have better visibility into what happens to cash than to credit/debit charges.

Oh and speaking of inebriation: if a bartender offers to call a cab for you, DON'T ARGUE. If they think you need a cab then you need a frickin cab.

Darth be not proud (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 December 2017 22:53 (one year ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

if taking a car to the bar, park or get dropped off a block away and arrive by foot. No one likes a VIP.

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Friday, 12 January 2018 21:12 (eleven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

When an interested party asks how old you think they are, subtract 5 from your gut feeling

calstars, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 21:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

If you are the only person left in the bar very close to closing time...please leave.

Yerac, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 21:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

If there is more than one bartender
Choose one, preferably the older,
And when it comes time for subsequent rounds,
Always order from the same one,
To increase the chance of buy backs

calstars, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 23:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

May have changed opinions on paying with a card vs cash. I only got charged for 3 while consuming 5 today. Maybe the Card allows the bartender to keep the discounts on the DL, thereby rewarding good tipping regulars without being subject to the inquisitiveness of nosy fuckers at the bar who keep track of this shit

calstars, Monday, 7 May 2018 01:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

one thing i genuinely never know is whether bartenders prefer to be tipped in cash or just adding it on the card

F# A# (∞), Monday, 7 May 2018 02:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Re: paying with cash vs a card -
In the past few weeks I’ve been undercharged and overcharged using a card. I think it’s probably better just using cash

calstars, Friday, 25 May 2018 21:33 (six months ago) Permalink

Testing the new bartender on buyback etiquette

calstars, Friday, 25 May 2018 21:34 (six months ago) Permalink

I hate having to use a card at the bar. plus if they want to comp you a drink let them do so with a wink and a hand motion, not in a way that makes you think it could have been a "user error"

El Tomboto, Friday, 25 May 2018 21:37 (six months ago) Permalink

If it's a quiet afternoon, testing the new bartender on their Old Fashioneds.

I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:00 (six months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Stick with one bartender, especially if she pours them well

calstars, Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:22 (five months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

If you’re aware of a shift change later in the day, don’t leave the change of a large bill on the bar to pay for your nexts — instead, tip for each as they’re poured. This makes it easier for the early shifter to sign off without them having to remind you and thus ask for their tip explicitly

calstars, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 21:58 (two months ago) Permalink

very otm

sleeve, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 22:07 (two months ago) Permalink

very incomprehensible

Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 22:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Otm, I try to be aware of this when I can.

Sic: let's say you like to start drinking at 5:30, and you intend to stay for a while and have several drinks. But the bartender who gives you your first two drinks works only till 6. Then a different bartender comes in.

At this point, all the assembled barflies have a choice:

1. Close out their tab, so as to be sure their tips reach Bartender One. Then open a new tab with Bartender Two, so as to make sure that she or he gets tipped appropriately too.

2. Allow the tab to remain open and be transferred to Bartender Two. This runs the risk of stiffing Bartender One out of the tips on the first couple drinks.

Maybe the bar has a system for equitably distributing tips in this situation, maybe they don't; maybe they just figure it will work out karmically. You don't know, and it would be awkward to ask. So clearly Option 1 is better barfly etiquette.

CAVEAT: this assumes you are running a tab. If I understand Calstars correctly, calstars's seems to be talking more about a pay-as-you-go model. Which is also a tip-as-you-go model, unless you're a dick.

That model can be elegant, especially if you're using cash and rounding up generously to nice tidy whole-dollar amounts. (Speaking in USian terms.)

Inuit innuendo (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Two twenties and two tens says sic is not a barfly

calstars, Thursday, 27 September 2018 01:45 (two months ago) Permalink

I thought sic was just referring to the business of tipping itself

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2018 01:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Is sic a British? I forget.

Inuit innuendo (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 September 2018 01:49 (two months ago) Permalink

sic is an Australian on long-term loan to Seattle

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 27 September 2018 02:27 (two months ago) Permalink

let's say you like to start drinking at 5:30, and you intend to stay for a while and have several drinks. But the bartender who gives you your first two drinks works only till 6. Then a different bartender comes in.

At this point, all the assembled barflies have a choice:

1. Close out their tab, so as to be sure their tips reach Bartender One. Then open a new tab with Bartender Two, so as to make sure that she or he gets tipped appropriately too.

2. Allow the tab to remain open and be transferred to Bartender Two. This runs the risk of stiffing Bartender One out of the tips on the first couple drinks.

Maybe the bar has a system for equitably distributing tips in this situation, maybe they don't; maybe they just figure it will work out karmically. You don't know, and it would be awkward to ask. So clearly Option 1 is better barfly etiquette.

none of this comes close to explaining what "don’t leave the change of a large bill on the bar to pay for your nexts" means

also

CAVEAT: this assumes you are running a tab. If I understand Calstars correctly, calstars's seems to be talking more about a pay-as-you-go model. Which is also a tip-as-you-go model, unless you're a dick.

I assumed the same re calstars' model so you are additionally saying that your entire explanation is not intended to explain it?

Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Thursday, 27 September 2018 08:11 (two months ago) Permalink

(plus yeah re tombot

If you’re aware of a shift change later in the day, don’t leave the change of a large bill on the bar to pay for your nexts — instead, tip for each as they’re poured. This makes it easier for the early shifter to sign off without them having to remind you and thus ask for their tip explicitly

Otm, I try to be aware of this when I can.

Sic: let's say you like to start drinking at 5:30, and you intend to stay for a while and have several drinks. But the bartender who gives you your first two drinks works only till 6. Then a different bartender comes in.

At this point, all the assembled barflies have a choice:

1. Close out their tab, so as to be sure their tips reach Bartender One. Then open a new tab with Bartender Two, so as to make sure that she or he gets tipped appropriately too.

2. Allow the tab to remain open and be transferred to Bartender Two. This runs the risk of stiffing Bartender One out of the tips on the first couple drinks.

Maybe the bar has a system for equitably distributing tips in this situation, maybe they don't; maybe they just figure it will work out karmically. You don't know, and it would be awkward to ask. So clearly Option 1 is better barfly etiquette.

CAVEAT: this assumes you are running a tab. If I understand Calstars correctly, calstars's seems to be talking more about a pay-as-you-go model. Which is also a tip-as-you-go model, unless you're a dick.

That model can be elegant, especially if you're using cash and rounding up generously to nice tidy whole-dollar amounts.

a slightly more elegant model is: pay a listed price for things.)

Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Thursday, 27 September 2018 08:20 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

If carrying a cash balance on the bar itself, add new bills by placing them perpendicular, on the side of the bartender, to your stack of smaller bills.

calstars, Saturday, 1 December 2018 19:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Confirm your tip with the bartender. Never leave cash unattended.

calstars, Saturday, 1 December 2018 21:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I don’t worry about shift changes and tipping. I drink at the same bar all the time. They all know I got them overall.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Smoove Jeff
Respeck

calstars, Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

can I get a buyback or what

rip van wanko, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Cal yr top tier single malt

Make a double, neat chief

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 2 December 2018 04:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

When you’re on your 7th and wondering when the right time is to leave, do so whenever one of the following events occur:
- you belch loudly, causing a moment of silence to be observed around you
- navigation and walking control becomes difficult, possibly resulting in collisions with others
- you spill your drink on your running cash tab

calstars, Sunday, 9 December 2018 13:53 (one week ago) Permalink

- you immediately grab up the wet cash and try to suck out the absorbed liquor

mick signals, Sunday, 9 December 2018 16:09 (one week ago) Permalink

the navigation rule is more otm than many of us would admit

rip van wanko, Sunday, 9 December 2018 22:17 (one week ago) Permalink


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