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Mentioned on the anxiety thread. Can anyone make any specific recommendations, I've ordered some but couldn't really tell what to order or where from so took a stab in the dark after 10 seconds of research.

Postive/negative experiences welcomed

cherry blossom, Sunday, 24 December 2017 13:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Recommend the pills 20 mg to start, maybe try 1, build a tolerance to it. Smoking a cbD dominant strain is alright but honestly it's so innocuous, why bother. May as well smoke a cigarette. Not sure if this helps

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 13:28 (eleven months ago) Permalink

What Ive got is this

20ml bottle
500mg of CBD + CBDa Per 20ml bottle
0.16ml of CBD oil per spray
4mg of CBD per spray

cherry blossom, Sunday, 24 December 2017 13:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Tried the spray briefly but wouldn't recommend exceeding 60 mg in a day

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

So it does have some effect!? But it was no go for you?

It says to do up to 32mg a day on the thing!

cherry blossom, Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Cherry, what's your tolerance to start with?

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ive absolutely no idea!

cherry blossom, Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

20 mg at least will have some sedating effect. Decreases physical pain and anxieties.

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Hard to say cuz it's administered via a spray but wouldn't exceed 32 as suggested per day. If it's new get a feel for it, worst case scenario you take too much it will feel like you're swimming in a pool of sedation

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Hard to say cuz it's administered via a spray but wouldn't exceed 32 as suggested per day. If it's new get a feel for it, worst case scenario you take too much it will feel like you're swimming in a pool of sedation

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Sorry to post twice, cack phone

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I’m still trying to get on the NYC MM program for my Crohn’s, going to try some cbd-intensive strains. I’m not a smoker at all. Neighbor hosted a trial run for me (a mostly-cbd strain, using a vape thingy). Was not stoned at all. Just felt distinctly chilled out with no feeling of sedation.

On the nyc mm program I guess I’ll be getting stuff in an oil or vaping cartridge form?

I had an appointment scheduled with a gastroenterologist who participates in the program last week but he had a family emergency and now I’m waiting to reschedule.

I would never REALLY sign your death warrant! You're my-- my DOG! (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 24 December 2017 22:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Whats the difference between tablets, sprays, vapes, smoking?

cherry blossom, Monday, 25 December 2017 06:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

IIRC, CBD is not very bioavailable orally compared to smoking or vaping. The studies that have gotten good results were 150mg+ daily of CBD, which is probably not feasible for most people financially. The best results also seemed to come from CBD combined with low amounts of THC (like 20:1), which isn't a go for people without recreational access or good medical programs.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 December 2017 07:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Hmmm, so theres the catch, I knew it!

What do you think about sublingual? reading conflicting stuff about this method

cherry blossom, Monday, 25 December 2017 08:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I've only done sublingual THC and even a few drops of high-proof alcohol is unpleasant enough that I didn't go back for seconds.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 December 2017 08:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I’ve not read most of this thread but regarding what’s the difference in vaping:

Vapourizers control the temperature at which weed burns. Cannabis has far more sub-parts to it than simply “CBD” and “THC”

By that i mean there are different components of CBD, THC and terpenoids that burn and/or “activate” at various temperatures. Each component affects you differently

Extraction of them into liquid form i will guess depends on the quality and balance of the isolate, like someone else mentioned above

The cheap vape pens have poor temperature control, so you can end up burning your weed or not getting a high enough stable temperature

If it’s too high, you start burning the carcinogenic component of the weed (mimicking rolling a joint and smoking it). If it’s too low you might not even start burning any THC

Personally, i have a Crafty and it gives me stable and accurate temperature control and i have the ability to change the temperature depending on what type of high i want

Obviously this isn’t even getting into the quality of the weed

My friend grows his own stuff and it’s organic. He has been to the Netherlands and other parts of the world to try out their bud. He knows his stuff and has great talent for growing it. His stuff is the best i have ever tried because he grows them with such care, low pesticides and searched a lot for imo great seedlings

infinity (∞), Monday, 25 December 2017 20:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Brass tacks: does CBS get you high?

Moodles, Monday, 25 December 2017 20:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

No but NBC does

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 25 December 2017 20:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Lol, my phone has thoughts of its own

Moodles, Monday, 25 December 2017 20:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

CBD doesn't get you high exactly, but there's something in really large doses. I did a couple of pure CBD dabs and it felt sort of like taking a Xanax.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 December 2017 22:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

^ yeah. CbD is not psycho active so it won't get you high. It's also comparable to GABA, creates a low level buzz feeling. Definitely takes the edge off

kolakube (Ross), Monday, 25 December 2017 22:27 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Extraction of CBD has gotten good at diminishing the amt of THC that seeps in, the cannabinoid that gets you high

But ya it also depends on what you mean by “high”? CBD relaxes yr body which is why liquid form will give you an total body analgesic effect

infinity (∞), Monday, 25 December 2017 22:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

My life has been transformed for the better by taking oil which has a ratio of THC and CBD (not sure what the ratio is exactly.) The high is very good indeed, but the CBD helps with physical pain, digestion, and chronic fatigue. I can only recommend it evangellically.

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 03:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Which one do you take, glumdalclitch, where from?

cherry blossom, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 04:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I take it sublingually. Difficult to expand upon more as I'm in the UK, but I'm pretty sure ilx webmail works.

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 05:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

sent:)

cherry blossom, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 05:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I got i nterested in concentrates becuase of an article in my local https://www.thestranger.com/weed/2017/11/08/25572732/the-worlds-strongest-pot-product-is-for-sale-in-seattle-and-it-looks-almost-like-crystal-meth and have tried pen/liquid cartridge not knowing wtf im doing so the bits of associated knowledge itt is helpful thx

alomar lines, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 06:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

fwiw, i got my cannabis card over a year ago. I've been vaping medical CBD for pain relief as needed and found it fairly helpful. no noticeable effect on me other than the analgesic effect. I recommend highly!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 06:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

jon, i'm glad to hear you're working toward getting a card; i'm inclined to think this can only be a boon for ya.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 06:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I know! I wish it wasn’t the holidays so I could pester that md for a reschedule

I would never REALLY sign your death warrant! You're my-- my DOG! (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 15:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Some just arrived!

I have just taken some

cherry blossom, Thursday, 28 December 2017 12:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ça plane?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 December 2017 12:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Not really feeling much benefit yet!

cherry blossom, Thursday, 28 December 2017 12:51 (eleven months ago) Permalink

can you buy this online w/o a prescription?
also has anyone used this for inflammation? (seen this mentioned online)

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 December 2017 14:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I just bought some online wo prescription from a place called the alchemists kitchen. I’m assuming it will fix everything.

dan selzer, Thursday, 28 December 2017 14:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

https://www.thealchemistskitchen.com/products/cbd

calstars, Thursday, 28 December 2017 14:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink

https://www.thealchemistskitchen.com/pages/cbd-faq

calstars, Thursday, 28 December 2017 14:59 (eleven months ago) Permalink

oh cool not that much
how many drops are you supposed to take?

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

anxiety is pounding away, it didnt do anything at all!

cherry blossom, Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I’ve noticed a few places use CBD as a catch-all term to mean any cannabinoid, probably because they don’t know exactly how much and what exact parts of the plant are extracted

It’s always good to inquire but even then when I use some of the gels on my grandfather, it has little effect on him

I have another source of this particular gel and it looks almost identical, with the same wording, but this one has way more effect on him. Kinda buyer beware unfortunately

In terms of the drops, it depends how long you’ve been doing it, body size and how you consume it

Obviously, IANAD, but if you haven’t consumed any in any form for years or you never have, and you are drinking it, 1-2 drops in some juice or something should do the trick. Probably twice a day depending on how bad your symptoms are

You can also vape it if you find a vapourizer that lets you vape liquids, but I imagine the dosage for this is different

infinity (∞), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:26 (eleven months ago) Permalink

https://www.lovecbd.org/product/300mg-dutch-cbd-oil-spray/

this is the one i did, and literally nothing. anxiety strong.

maybe it takes time to build up if you dont have the receptors?

cherry blossom, Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

again, ianad, and this is kind of unsafe territory but you can try upping the dosage a tiny tiny bit (if you have a larger body mass low doses might not affect you much), but there is no build up necessary i wanna say?

i would try a different brand or even source if upping the amt/spray count doesnt help

good luck and be safe

infinity (∞), Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

CbD tolerance is definitely a thing. Some people feel nothing the first couple times they take a 20mg pill. What is the dose you're taking cherry?

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 28 December 2017 20:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

cannabidiol stays in the body 2-5 days

it looks like cherry is using a spray

cherry if you dont mind saying how long were you taking the recommended dose?

infinity (∞), Thursday, 28 December 2017 21:02 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Deodorant would be a good delivery vehicle

calstars, Thursday, 28 December 2017 21:52 (eleven months ago) Permalink

well its only second day of doing it so far!

i did 0.33, 0.33, 0.5 and 0.5ml (2.4mg, 2.4mg, 3.6mg, 3.6mg)

cherry blossom, Friday, 29 December 2017 11:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The studies that had a benefit for anxiety were using at least 10X that amount. I know that personally it takes about 40mg of CBD to have any effect orally.

For sources, ironically the CBD subreddit has the best list of suppliers with recent quality tests.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 29 December 2017 19:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'll check that out thanka. contradictory information make this confusing - recommended dose so low!

cherry blossom, Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Yeah I stand by what I said about not exceeding 60 mg to start but cherry those amounts are way too low!!

kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I think suppliers recommend such small doses to make the product look more affordable.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ime, non-medical stuff is of limited use because of low potency
Can you get legal? Or know someone who isn't?

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

sorry the mrs are correct, the mgs were wrong

4.8mg, 4.8mg, 7.2mg, 7.2mg in one day. still quite low by looks of it. I will try larger doses tomorrow, thats a lot of spraying though...many times during day, or fewer times with more spray?

cherry blossom, Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Fewer times, more spray, IMO. You could try however many sprays get you to 20mg at once for a starter?

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 30 December 2017 02:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

To put the amounts in perspective, THC is way more potent mg for mg and 5mg THC doses are sold as almost unnoticeable microdoses in legal states here.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 30 December 2017 02:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

if this doesn't work, maybe try the pills? higher doses to boot

kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 30 December 2017 03:03 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I tried doing 20mg at once and there was some reduction in anxiety, fairly muted but it was there - though of course anxiety is variable!

cherry blossom, Sunday, 31 December 2017 09:07 (eleven months ago) Permalink

the thing I don't understand about sublingual is, you hold it there for 3 minutes or whatever because it goes in faster, then you swallow it? but that mean the stuff thats still in your mouth hasn't gone in the sublingual way?

cherry blossom, Sunday, 31 December 2017 09:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I just hold it as long as possible while working

cherry blossom, Sunday, 31 December 2017 09:09 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The 3 minutes sounds like a general guide

I assume some people can’t go a long time without the need to swallow

Administering liquids under the tongue ensures they enter the bloodstream faster without the so called first pass effect of breaking down/potentially losing its potency in the gastrointestinal tract, stomach, then liver

If you’re swallowing minuscule amounts of it, I don’t think it’s a big deal, especially since you are now taking way more than the product suggests

infinity (∞), Sunday, 31 December 2017 14:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

so I massively increased the dose, and was doing 20mg at once the last few days, 6 or 7 times a day and....its nearly all gone. It did kind of work a bit. I think maybe a try the vape

cherry blossom, Monday, 1 January 2018 10:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ok, second try - gone with Bluebird 6X Hemp concentrate so maybe the stronger will do better

cherry blossom, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 10:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

5mg in cappuccino, A+

calstars, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:28 (six months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Might be interested in a 10:1 CBD/THC thing.

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:46 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm confused by this story

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44442064

Is this a different CBD oil to the ones that are in sale in the UK?

anvil, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:08 (six months ago) Permalink

Something to do with the ratio of THC I presume, but its not particularly clear

anvil, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:13 (six months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

cbd oil not available on Amazon
Can anyone recommend a source to order from for a US customer ?

calstars, Sunday, 8 July 2018 22:27 (five months ago) Permalink

Cal is there a licensed dispensary near you? Would recommend checking that if you can

Ross, Monday, 9 July 2018 07:14 (five months ago) Permalink

I've been messing around with CBD for the last few weeks and have had best results from vaping high CBD low THC bud (surprisingly easy to get hold of in UK?!) It's like my body gets stoned but my brain doesn't? Really reduces pain in muscles and lessens body stress/anxiety. Not a wonder cure but any reduction in symptoms is welcome tbh.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 9 July 2018 15:13 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

been using cbd oil for a few weeks, felt quite good initially but noticed i've been getting upset stomach a lot more. i have ibs but usually related to eating certain things. i wondered is it possible i'm swallowing it more than i notice when taking it sublingually. i find it quite hard to know how much is being administered and now i think about it, whether i'm properly administering it sublingually. i mean without getting ridiculous should i be telling myself to say "ah" like a doctor would when you're a kid.

alternatively i guess i could start vaping it instead? dunno where to start with that tho.

FernandoHierro, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:27 (three months ago) Permalink

i have a lot of chronic weakness and muscle pain and the first week it seemed to help a lot with that, i was exercising more and sleeping better, but the upset stomach just exacerbates those issues so it's become harder to tell how effective it's been.

FernandoHierro, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:28 (three months ago) Permalink


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