US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

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Included in the questions Lewandowski would not answer was: "Did you have a conversation with the president of the United States within the last 24 hours where you discussed your testimony?" said Schiff.

— Billy House (@HouseInSession) January 17, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link

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very important to give more of a voice to perspectives like this

I’ve voted twice in my life: once for myself when I ran for Congress 10 years ago, and once for Donald Trump last year. Virtually all of my friends or colleagues actively hate Mr. Trump. I’m a minority in every circle I move in. I have a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago, and a bachelor’s and master’s from Harvard; I’m a former hedge fund trader and now an academic; I’m a journalist and author. Imagine being a Trump supporter in even one of those circles! We learn to stay quiet.

How’s he doing? He has turned a fragile nation “anti-fragile” (the author Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s term). Before Mr. Trump, we were scared of any volatility. Oh no, ISIS! Oh no, banks! The more chaos there was, the worse we were.

Now volatility is our friend. The more chaos, the better! Entrepreneurship up. Optimism up. Good old American problem solving is back! You know who loves change? Capitalists. Mr. Trump has led us on that spiritual exodus.

PHILIP MAYMIN
GREENWICH, CONN.

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Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link

what the fucking fuck

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link

more failed "bipartisanship"

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link

shithole trump fans

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

christ imagine being one of philip mayman’s students

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link

That letter needs polling

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:55 (six years ago) link

so crooked hillary is ineligible because she emailed from a private server but trump is the god emperor as his former campaign CEO (erstwhile cambridge analytica VP) has an attorney (who also represents white house counsel don mcgahan and former chief of staff reince priebus) texting during congressional testimony to the white house from a smartphone. usa

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link

What is happening at the NYT in this last month

They haven't announced some new approach, right, this is just What They're Doing Now

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link

what the fuck is up with the stock market, that's what I want to know.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

oh boy, here we go

And the FAKE NEWS winners are...https://t.co/59G6x2f7fD

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2018

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link

Nixon called it the "Enemies List".

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

not surprising

https://i.imgur.com/aMsD6Bv.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link

Hosted on gop dot com. Which is "temporarily offline".

Why do people pay this much attention to the president being his usual dumbass and jerking off?

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

there was never a page, it's just a broken link that he'll falsely claim = proof that the page is down cos of everybody rushing to it

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link

meanwhile

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s chief of staff on Wednesday told a group of Democratic lawmakers that Mr. Trump’s campaign promise to build a wall along the Mexican border was “not fully informed,” and that the president has “evolved” on the issue of immigration, participants in the meeting said.

...Mr. Kelly told the lawmakers that “he was the one who tempered” Mr. Trump “on the issue of the wall, on the issue of DACA,” said Representative Raúl Grijalva, Democrat of Arizona, who attended the session, which was first reported by The Washington Post.

“He has basically got him to understand that a concrete wall from sea to shining sea along the southern border, that that was not going to happen for environmental, geological and other reasons, and that I think he has come to the point that he understands that barriers can mean many different things,’’ Mr. Grijalva said.

...“I can confirm that Chief of Staff Kelly said today that the President’s campaign was not fully informed about the wall he was promising to voters,” Mr. Gutiérrez said in a statement. “Kelly went on to say that many campaigns are not fully informed about every policy and that campaigning and governing are two different things and that governing is harder. Kelly took credit for educating the President on the wall and that a concrete barrier from sea to shining sea was no longer the conception of border security barriers supported today by the White House.”

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link

a wall isn't a physical barrier so much as a state of mind, a way of living if you will

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link

all alone, or in twos, the ones who really love, walk up and down outside the wall
some hand in hand, some gather together in bands -- the bleeding hearts and the artists make their stand
and when they've given their all some stagger and fall, after all, it's not easy
banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:28 (six years ago) link

I don’t get this tax thing, all these mega corporations paying all these taxes that affect their bottom lines. I though trump was a republican. Imagine the reaction if this happened under a Dem pres. what am I missing?

calstars, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link

Too predictable. I like this one better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9yim3ZGuUc

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

what the fuck is up with the stock market, that's what I want to know.

the stock market might not be rational, but I think it might be kinda racist

(I’m only kind of joking)

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link

It’s def not rational but at least some past bull markets were based on something more than positive republican daddy’s are in charge vibes

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:40 (six years ago) link

so the fake news thing on gop.com is up, and...it's actually worth a scroll just to see how absurdly amateur hour the whole thing. everything about it - not bothering to include any sources or links on a publication that is supposed to be about the truth, being composed of a top 11 list, the 11th item of which consists of another 10 sub-items, the kinds of things that they're choosing to highlight, the pure pettiness and pointlessness of most of the items on the list , the fact that the headline is "The Highly-Anticipated 2017 Fake News Awards".

this is #11:

11. And last, but not least: "RUSSIA COLLUSION!" Russian collusion is perhaps the greatest hoax perpetrated on the American people. THERE IS NO COLLUSION!

it's typed out like that. who wrote this? did trump write this? seriously, did trump write this, because if he didn't, who else could get away with writing that? is it odd to point out that it's sort of ...messageboard style?

but seriously, the whole page is worth a look. i don't usually save entire websites, but i am archiving this shit so that i can revisit it again when i'm old

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link

What specifically should be sending the stock market lower? It's obviously overheated, but there isn't yet a great case that it should be done.

xxp

Moodles, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link

Also, remember all those tax cuts and loosened regulations?

Moodles, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:28 (six years ago) link

oh so it's like those GOP surveys which are literally Colbert's "Great President...or Greatest President?" joke

frogbs, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:28 (six years ago) link

what the fuck is up with the stock market, that's what I want to know.

Depressing to debate my cubemates on Trump's unsuitability, when the majority of them gleefully relate the rise in their retirement accounts. Money wins over humanitarian and environmental concerns.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:30 (six years ago) link

Flipside is that it won't last. Much of what is being undone now was put in place in response to the last crash, but we aren't quite to the point where people are just lighting money on fire yet.

Moodles, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:34 (six years ago) link

My retirement account is doing well! Trump still sucks!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:47 (six years ago) link

this nyt piece on the 6 of the early democratic presidential frontrunners (booker, warren, harris, sanders, klobuchar, gillibrand) also tries to make a point about the peril of the senate democrats running in states that trump carried:

“The Democrats running in the 10 states that Donald Trump carried have all demonstrated an ability to get elected in Republican states, so they obviously have something going for them,” said Whit Ayres, a Republican strategist. “But having the Democratic Party veer further and further to the left makes their lives substantially more difficult.”

substantially more difficult...if not for the fact that their own constituents are also moving toward the left, on the whole. the "moderates", by clinging to what they thought was the center an election or two ago, are staking their position closer and closer to the conservative edge of the party.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link

Weird that the republican strategist would give democrats bad advice for winning.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:44 (six years ago) link

yeah, but the sad part is that at least some of the 10 seem to be following their advice

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 06:05 (six years ago) link

Lol someone laughed at me when I called nyt a pro-trump paper a few weeks back

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 January 2018 08:07 (six years ago) link

Thank god the NYT *finally* gave the floor to Trump-supporters praising their Big Dumbass Leader...

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:19 (six years ago) link

long time coming, imo

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link

My retirement account contrib is 0.5%, burn it all down.

Coverage of the FNAs is so spotty! Should've gotten Ricky Gervais to host.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

I tuned out after three hours.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

We need the Wall for the safety and security of our country. We need the Wall to help stop the massive inflow of drugs from Mexico, now rated the number one most dangerous country in the world. If there is no Wall, there is no Deal!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2018

this racist piece of shit! Mexico is nowhere near the most dangerous country, it's a straight up lie . FUCK i hate this person

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

Mexico is ranked 22nd on Global Peace Index's list of world's most dangerous countries for 2017. Top 10 perilous countries are Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, South Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Sudan, Central African Republic and Ukraine.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

Can’t wait to book my next resort vacation in Syria

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.

It is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections.

It’s unclear how long the Torshin inquiry has been ongoing, but the news comes as Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s sweeping investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, including whether the Kremlin colluded with Trump’s campaign, has been heating up.

All of the sources spoke on condition of anonymity because Mueller’s investigation is confidential and mostly involves classified information.

A spokesman for Mueller’s office declined comment.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link

The Wall is the Wall, it has never changed or evolved from the first day I conceived of it. Parts will be, of necessity, see through and it was never intended to be built in areas where there is natural protection such as mountains, wastelands or tough rivers or water.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2018

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link

uh oh, Kelly in the shithouse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

xp Good thing no illegal border crossings happen near water. Or wastelands.

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

self-xp countdown to "John Kelly was only an intern who brought us some coffee that one time" in 3, 2, 1

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

I'm of the opinion that we should give Trump his wall. A big, beautiful, unbreachable wall, twenty feet high and built in a three foot circle around where he's currently standing.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link

uh oh, Kelly in the shithouse

i know, i know, it's really serious

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link


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