Yep, that's the key thing. aiui, the sticking point isn't who you sanction in Russia (in the sense of cutting them off from international banks, making it illegal for US companies to work with them, etc - which Obama already did), it's the US hypothetically setting up a unilateral system of penalties for countries buying weapons from Russia - which would include a bunch of major strategic allies.
The US continues to sanction individuals and businesses (and added another 30 to the list recently iirc) but if the people drafting this bill ever intended it to be implemented, it would have probably looked very different. Republicans got bipartisan support on Iran sanctions, Democrats got a stick to beat Trump with when he inevitably failed to implement parts of the Russia ones.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
what do you know
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo?CMP=edit_2221
Among other things, both documents allege Donald Trump was compromised during a 2013 trip to Moscow that involved lewd acts in a five-star hotel.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
Shout out to Trump’s speechwriters who are preparing for tonight’s State of the Union by accepting that none of their stuff will be used.— Mike Lawrence (@TheMikeLawrence) January 30, 2018
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
he's going to read it from the teleprompter. he's going to do an ok job. he will be as presidential as he can be.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
can't wait to see how many idiot journalists will be fooled by this new and improved prompter Trump
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
or, if he goes off script, he'll say something awful, and none of it will matter, 1.5% of undecided voters will decide they've had enough of him, and then next week they'll decide that they can take a little bit more
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
http://news.gallup.com/poll/226454/trump-approval-highest-west-virginia-lowest-vermont.aspx
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
If Trump paying off a porn star isn't particularly compromising, then what could the threat of revealing lewd acts in five star hotels hold over him? Russia would have more sway threatening to reveal financial funny business.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
xpost Does that mean we can expect to lose Manchin?
a-fuckin-men xp
I'm so bo-o-ored with the dos-si-er
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link
Trump to make “eye opening” remarks on North Korea at tonight’s State of the Union, I’m told. He will talk about North Korean nuclear threat in a "strong and serious way,” a source familiar with the speech says.— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 30, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link
"we begin bombing in five minutes"
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link
re: gallup. His approval was even slightly underwater in a few surprising states, like Mississippi and South Carolina, but only by a couple of percentage points.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
Clearly there are plenty of things he considered compromising, including the porn star. He wouldn't have paid her off otherwise. I think Trump didn't realize that there'd just be zero consequences for his worst actions.
xps
― Moodles, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
i have no stomach for any more of this shit tbh . none of it matters , see you all in the midterm thread .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
^^good approach
― Simon H., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
Put another way, it is complete legit to believe both that many of Trump's heinous acts have not had the consequences you would expect and that the Russians have some kind of leverage over him. One doesn't cancel out the other.
more xps
― Moodles, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
He will talk about North Korean nuclear threat in a "strong and serious way,”
This is straight up pandering to an issue they know they can 'win', because it can be cast in binary terms with the USA as the innocent, strong good guy and DPRK as the evil threat. "Eye-opening" is also a reaction to a powerful fear, and powerful fear is also "mind-closing".
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
"do you ever use trump tweets as an 'eye opener'?"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
Apparently, the new line on McCabe is that he was forced out due to his mishandling of the Clinton email server investigation, not unlike the excuse made re: Comey.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link
The world revolves around Trump, but Trump still revolves around Hillary.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
I believe in the sold his soul to Satan hypothesis because I’ve never seen someone get away with this much stuff.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
oh cool
Today, Congressman Paul Gosar contacted the U.S. Capitol Police, as well as Attorney General Jeff Sessions, asking they consider checking identification of all attending the State of the Union address and arresting any illegal aliens in attendance.— Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS (@RepGosar) January 30, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
AG Sessions standing at the door checking IDs. please please please let this happen.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
Paul thinks it would be so frickin hot if a scene from his favorite dystopia-porn smut film played out for real.
― Evan, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
Gosar then giddily took to Twitter to announce to everyone that he did it.
― jmm, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-wants-to-prosecute-mueller
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link
haha he 100 percent hopes a 9/11 happens soon https://t.co/aCu7MdI5sX— slackbot (@pareene) January 30, 2018
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
Only seven more years of this. pic.twitter.com/4e22CYN29K— Will Sloan (@WillSloanEsq) January 30, 2018
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
xp what the fucking fuck
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
What if, God forbid, somebody were to throw a brick through your window? Now we wouldn't want that to happen, would we?
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link
the obama crash?
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/us-stock-futures-dow-data-earnings-and-politics-on-the-agenda.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link
I can't follow the plot anymore https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/internal-justice-department-probe-eyes-mccabes-role-in-final-weeks-of-2016-election/2018/01/30/db2ea8f0-05c7-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_mccabe-420p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.5b9fdf1081a6
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
xp
Yep, people are starting to realize the bull market is getting rather long in the tooth.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link
I’m not doing the research but 99% chance that Oswalt nonsense is the result of someone specifically asking him if Trump should see the movie and he said sure
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link
i know it doesn't matter but i will take any opportunity to post videos of scott pruitt squirming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQUAwm6xQT4
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link
too bad whitehouse blew his potential Viral Moment of the Day! by accidentally triggering a voice recording of something about hubris, when it seems that he meant to cap off his viral moment with the audio recording of pruitt saying what he said.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
by accidentally triggering a voice recording of something about hubris
i know this is way too charitable to sen. whitehouse, but we can't discount the possibility that he did it on purpose and was trying to make a very meta artistic statement
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link
"If we're giving free water and food, that means that families are not going to supermarkets to buy. It is affecting the economy of Puerto Rico. So we need to create a balance."Meanwhile: the gov't reports that nearly a 3rd of PR still lack electricity.https://t.co/ajq3NRUdHL— ProPublica (@ProPublica) January 30, 2018
America is cool
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link
cool to starvation
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
Problem with the stock market as any sort of useful metric right now is that it is so wildly overvalued that it can afford to fall down several hundred points and still be astronomically high.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
”If we're giving free water and food, that means that families are not going to supermarkets to buy. It is affecting the economy of Puerto Rico. So we need to create a balance."
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link
what a fucking garbage country this is
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
great post frogbs (a ways back) but I am afraid that this bit:
the formation of a special council which will only disband upon the death of every remaining Clinton
...seriously underestimates the lifespan of anti-Clinton sentiment.
― claude rains down in africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
if the piss tape doesn't exist surely someone in the deep state is busy using our government funded science to make a fraudulent one soon, right? RIGHT? PLEASE?
― akm, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link
Look at it this way: based upon what you know of the man, do you think the odds favor the existence or the nonexistence of a piss tape?
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link
Who fucking cares about that bullshit. We learned he cheated on his wife with Stormy Daniels and no one even blinked. They’d have to prove that he knew of it and Russia was holding it over his head for it to mean anything.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
lol hes probably peeing all over himselff like MMM THIS IS SOME GOOD PEE can't wait xp
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link
He walked in on underage girls in a dressing room and bragged about it on Howard Stern. That’s worse than hiring prostitutes. Not to mention the horrifying account his first wife gave in the divorce deposition, which she never fully recanted.
He is scum and a gangster and none of it matters. Any actor would have had their show pulled for any one of these things.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link
Stfu xpost
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link