Dynasty, s3: Canadian Politics 2018

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I don't know how the Ontario Liberals manage to do it but the new labour legislation Bill 148 might actually get me to vote for the fuckers one more time, after I was sure I was done with them by 2010 or so. These are some of the most sweeping protections for temporary and part-time workers I've seen any government implement. The way e.g. Tim Hortons franchises are responding to the minimum wage increases are mostly serving to make them look ridiculous. I'm glad I'm not seeing much serious support for the corporations in this regard.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 14:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah, in my circles Tim's and other businesses like Cineplex have been roundly mocked for their responses but uhhh given the nature of those circles I don't know if I can trust that there isn't a significant chunk of the country that doesn't buy the crocodile tears

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 14:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

I hate that we have to fight and scrap for even the incredibly modest gains like the ones in Bill 148

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 14:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

this is the story of my post post-secondary life

infinity (∞), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

Moved from the 2017 thread:

What it comes down to, imho, at least these days, is that laïcité is used by some in Quebec as an excuse for all-out xenophobia, while others are aware of its risks yet knowingly cling to it in spite of its bad rep in the anglophone world because they believe that religion represents a dormant threat to modern societies. Quebec's relative outspokenness in the latter department is sometimes an awful thing (re: that superfluous burqa ban), sometimes a great one (I say this as someone who would never consider moving back to my home country, Romania, in no small part due to its increasingly theocratic, i.e. openly homophobic, sexist and racist, ideology).

― pomenitul, Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:32 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would agree it is sometimes a great one if the catholic religion was making a big comeback but it isn't. After all, the cross in the national assembly is here to stay. Really the only target is different very small religious minorities.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:09 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec-opposition-parties-balk-at-marking-mosque-shooting-with-day-of-action/article37538523/?cmpid=rss&click=sf_globefb

But this week, the province's two main opposition parties made it clear that, while they support a commemoration, they believe Islamophobia is a loaded term.
The Parti Quebecois says the term is too controversial, while the Coalition Avenir Quebec deems the word inappropriate because Quebecers "are not Islamophobic."

Ihsaan Gardee, director of the Muslim council, attributed the parties' position to identity politics in an election year in Quebec.

"In our view, when arguing semantics, it draws attention away from the core issues of hate and Islamophobia and anti-Muslim discrimination that are being discussed and how to effectively address them," Gardee said Tuesday.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:12 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The whole Netflix thing is so weird. I subscribe to Netflix so I don't really mind it not being taxed but it seems ridiculously unfair that Canadian companies that offer streaming services have to be taxed but any foreign companies offering the same service are not required to be taxed. Just seems like an obvious loophole that should be closed (either by taxing everyone or no one) and I don't even get why anybody is debating this.

― silverfish, Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:23 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The alternative would be a special Netflix tax that would go to help funding Canadian cinema and television series. A bunch of european countries went this route, Germany and France notably. As you know I am certain, instead of that tax, Joly basically bargained with Netflix that they invest 500 millions here in Canada. I really do believe that Melanie Joly is making sure the 500 millions investment is managed by Netflix because 1. Telefilm has been absolutely incompetent at building up a lucrative film industry in Canada whereas Netflix has the strong incentive of building a more efficient and larger infrastructure, retaining talent, etc 2. Netflix is already a much better international distributor than anything Can-Con has ever had access to, 3. Ubisoft (a foreign company) and Cirque du Soleil (a Canadian one) have been successful content creating companies that got shit tons of subsidies (much more than Netflix is getting at the moment), 4. there was a danger that that big three telecoms was going to gobble up the entire private film/tv series content creation market, now there is not only one but two different alternative paths.

I am still not under 100% sure this is best idea. But I am certain that doing nothing would have been way worse.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:23 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 02:01 (nine months ago) Permalink

a long time coming

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-united-states-trade-complaint-1.4480738

Canada appeared to be mounting a case on behalf of the rest of the world, since it cited almost 200 examples of alleged U.S. wrongdoing, almost all of them concerning other trading partners, such as China, India, Brazil and the European Union.

The 32-page complaint homed in on technical details of the U.S. trade rulebook, ranging from the U.S. treatment of export controls to the use of retroactive duties and split decisions by the six-member U.S. International Trade Commission.

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

Wow

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:24 (nine months ago) Permalink

Btw re

Yeah, in my circles Tim's and other businesses like Cineplex have been roundly mocked for their responses but uhhh given the nature of those circles I don't know if I can trust that there isn't a significant chunk of the country that doesn't buy the crocodile tears

― Simon H., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 09:25 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought that it was interesting that Michael Coren, who can be very conservative (at least on social issues) came out so strongly against the corporations and in favour of the raise. The CBC business panel I watched the other day was also mostly supportive. Even the Ontario PCs mostly seem to agree with a $15 minimum wage but want to get there a little slower.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

Well, that would be interesting. Wonder what would happen to my job.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

:(

pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

sending good vibes yr way sund4r

as long as you don't mind living in canada, it's not so bad once canadians have good work experience stateside and then return home

it would suck having to end your stay prematurely due to this though

i became a us citizen half a year ago but will end up moving back for good probably in a year

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

Thanks, guys. Tbh, I already consider coming back, for reasons I won't go into fully (but I'm spending a third of the year in Canada as it is; long distance relationships are hard). There's no guarantee I'd be renewed for another year anyway and I could probably come in on another visa if I had to. Still, it definitely raises questions.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 January 2018 02:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

Interesting - BC Supreme Court rules that indefinite solitary confinement is unconstitutional: https://bccla.org/2018/01/bc-supreme-court-ends-indefinite-solitary-confinement-federal-prisons-across-canada/

Also, not sure what to make of these exemptions to the new labour legislation that the Ontario legislature passed last week. A little disappointed: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/provinces-new-wage-laws-wont-apply-to-film-and-tv-workers-or-students-18-and-under

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 19 January 2018 03:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

holy moly, patrick brown

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Thursday, 25 January 2018 06:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

yeah just read the details of the allegations, jfc

Simon H., Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm re-watching Season 5 of the Wire and last night watched the episode where Carcetti and Norman are watching Rupert Bond's press conference on Clay Davis' indictment. Norman to Carcetti: "You'll need to have a comment. Try not to sound too gleeful about it."

My first thought after hearing it this morning was that this was probably Kathleen Wynne and her chief of staff's first exchange this morning.

Haven't read the details and probably don't want to. Ugh, good riddance.

Federico Boswarlos, Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

conservatives in this country are really hard to distinguish from maga chuds. twitter comments on any media accounts regarding the brown story are all about feeling sorry for patrick brown and thinking its a conspiracy theory.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

Could be nothing. On the other hand...

http://warrenkinsella.com/2018/01/column-metoo-isnt-just-coming-to-political-canada-its-here/

Simon H., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 15:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wow @ the hints in the comments.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:40 (eight months ago) Permalink

If this turns out to be real that's....going to be one hell of a thing.

Simon H., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

I know someone who has worked with a prominent provincial politician here in B.C. who sexually harassed her and who was just generally a pig around the office. It would be huge news if it ever gets out.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

don't know this guy, but:

Intern scandal brewing in Ottawa as the #metoo movement meets Justin Trudeau. Story soon.

— Andrew Krystal (@AndrewKrystal) January 30, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

his timeline is a treat. Gregg Zaun and Christie Blatchford retweets.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

if it is him, this would be awfully brazen: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-careful-metoo-1.4511093

rob, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

i kinda doubt it's him, just bcz of the wording of the kinsella piece. but if it is, that would be pretty insane.

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

to my scandal-loving disappointment, Kinsella intimated that Trudeau was not the figure he was writing about:

The Internet is a vanity press for the deranged https://t.co/00iFn6Jy0n

— Warren Kinsella (@kinsellawarren) January 30, 2018

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

maybe it's his dude gerald butts?

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:36 (eight months ago) Permalink

my scandal-loving disappointment

I've never voted for the Liberals federally but this is still relieving to me.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

Nova Scotia mayor comes out

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 February 2018 16:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

Glad now it's 'in all of us command' instead of 'in all our sons command'.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 3 February 2018 05:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

i've been parsing that line wrong all along. i always thought the patriot love was in "thy sons' command". possessive sons', command as a noun.

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 3 February 2018 06:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wait, I've read it that way my whole life. It only just occurred to me that it makes more sense if "command" is a verb and "sons" is plural. Speaking to Canada in the imperative still seems odd, though.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 February 2018 12:27 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yep, me too.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 3 February 2018 12:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think I probably did think about it once or twice and then forgot. If the original line was "thou dost in us command" as per [Removed Illegal Link], that is a much better line than either the one we grew up with or this new one. Are we also going to take the cross out of the French lyrics? Lol j/k.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 February 2018 12:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

I keep trying to imagine this happening to the White House and failing: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/24-sussex-drive-trudeau-not-living-1.4511732

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 February 2018 12:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

This seems like a good history of the anthem: https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/o-canada/

In The Common School Book of Vocal Music, published by the Educational Book Company of Toronto in 1913, the original line "True patriot love thou dost in us command" was changed to "True patriot love in all thy sons command." This particular change was also included in a version published by Delmar in 1914, and in all versions printed thereafter. There is no evidence as to why the change to “sons” was made, although it is worth noting that the women’s suffrage movement was at its most militant and controversial around 1913, and by 1914 and 1916 there was an enormous surge of patriotism during the First World War, at a time when only men could serve in the armed forces.

I figured the 'thy sons' version probably took off because of the war, but didn't connect it to the suffragettes.

Up to the middle of the 20th century, public discussion relating to the anthem, evidenced by letters to the editor in the country’s major newspapers, tended to revolve around the appropriateness of the phrase “stand on guard for thee” and the controversy associated with the tune’s perceived similarity to Mozart’s “March of the Priests.”

My view, having had to listen to the damn song every morning for years, is that we ban it forever and enjoy some peace and quiet.

jmm, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

(also, "peoplekind" is hilariously clunky. why not "humankind"?)

Simon H., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

he is such a high school teacher

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

Me cause human contains the word “man.” Sexist.

Srsly, though, what a peoplegling of the language.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

Stupid phone. *because

“Me cause earthquake! Cave dilettante strong!”

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm gonna start using hupeoplekind

silverfish, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

so inclusive

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

i kinda think trudeau was kidding actually

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think he meant it as a bit of light ribbing. He wasn't mansplaining. The full question is at 1:06:38 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3988&v=JDAYH0GSDWs

jmm, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

(also, "peoplekind" is hilariously clunky. why not "humankind"?)

"Humanity" is a perfectly good actual English word but it does seem like ribbing (someone who was asking a very long and convoluted question) in context.

I'm not a biologist but I'm p sure "maternal love" is not the actual definition of "mitochondria" btw.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

good old "people" is fine

though high school teacher will knock off points for being ambiguous by using the word "people" (in chicken scratch along the margin: who? what people? be specific. -5)

infinity (∞), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, my Apple Oxford dictionary defines "mankind", "humanity", and "people" almost exactly the same way: "human beings considered collectively".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

I have the feeling lots of English-speaking media don't quite get how racism played a role in this election; or maybe they are afraid to point it out.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

speaking of English media

I wrote this in the chaos of last night: Quebec's break with the old political order: https://t.co/LlRRBNb3RP

— Nora Loreto (@NoLore) October 2, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Marine Le Pen just endorsed Legault's immigration platform. Tout est dit.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah seeing that and I realized I'm done for at least one month with politics, here and elsewhere. I need a break.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Relevant: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kakistocracy

pomenitul, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 07:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ok, that made me laugh

silverfish, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh damn I only just got the pun

rob, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I missed this: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/04/usmca-canada-china-free-trade_a_23551085/

pomenitul, Sunday, 7 October 2018 14:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

In Ottawa, we seem to have a credible challenger to perma-mayor and former Ontario Lib cabinet minister Jim Watson (who won 76% of the vote last time) in Clive Doucet, a former councillor who actually has plans to do something about housing affordability and at least seems to care about the low-income predominantly minority communities who are facing eviction from the Heron Gate area. It's mostly relieving that our two front-runners both seem to be at least reasonable, although with the way the world is going, I should probably expect that at the last minute a previously obscure candidate will come up the middle and win on a platform of banning shawarmas and requiring forced labour for jaywalkers after Ford redistricts the city with a week to the election.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Thanks for the links. I need to actually read something about this election.

Watson is so much the most visible politician in this city that it's kind of hard to imagine him losing.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Yep, and he'd certainly be acceptable and capable. I'm glad there's a progressive alternative who's looking at these issues, though.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:37 (one week ago) Permalink

THE GATEWAY DRUG IS UPON US

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:56 (six days ago) Permalink

No but really, even as someone who is quite obtusely anti-drugs I believe this is a great day.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:57 (six days ago) Permalink

haha

way too much coverage of cannabis in the local papers here, ranging from informative to useless knowledge that most stoners have known their whole lives
this is a great event for sure but i fear the normalization of pot will be craft beer part 2

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:58 (six days ago) Permalink

I have never smoked so probably the comparaison is wrong but craft beer saved me from Molson Export and Heineken so I don't see why it would be a fear.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:01 (six days ago) Permalink

Primo quality buds going for $100/ounce on Commercial Dr. Something is happening.

everything, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:03 (six days ago) Permalink

Ha, I wasn't going to be the one to ask. xp

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:03 (six days ago) Permalink

I look forward to the Heineken of cannabis, whatever that may end up being. Probably some kind of cheap, disposable vape device from China.

everything, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:07 (six days ago) Permalink

well there's def. the cannabis infused beer as

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:08 (six days ago) Permalink

xp
oh it definitely will be like craft beer, but I'm not clear on what's bad about that? you mean just like annoying hipsterization? or mediocre weed with names like Indicapocalypse or bizarre hybrids you don't even want to smell let alone smoke?

there are a ton of drawbacks to Quebec's approach to this, but I have to say, the SAQ near my apt is pretty fantastic for a govt-run alcohol store (at least in terms of stock if not price), so I'm curious about the new weed stores

more seriously, glad to see that there's some activity on the amnesty/pardoning front

rob, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:10 (six days ago) Permalink

I never managed to get into pot, but this is something to be proud of, and it goes to show that – disclaimer: everything is relative, I know, I know – Canada remains ahead of the curve when it comes to making sensible decisions about 'moral' matters. I'd probably roll myself a celebratory joint if I weren't in the UK right now.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:12 (six days ago) Permalink

First thing I think about when craft beer comes to mind is SMEs brewers doing their thing and being able to be independent from the 2-3 ridiculous consortium owning everything. I'm down with that model happening in weed production.

That being said, if I recall correctly, Molson is heavily unionized and the shareholders + c-suite have a really good relationship with the union.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:15 (six days ago) Permalink

xpost to rob - you mean just like annoying hipsterization?

^ yeah, that and some of the attitudes i've seen by norms using it now. like one lady saying joints were bad but she would eat edibles, while in a pot store - fuck off

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:18 (six days ago) Permalink

a very little price to pay when all things are considered

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:19 (six days ago) Permalink

mediocre weed with names like Indicapocalypse or bizarre hybrids you don't even want to smell let alone smoke

Um, this is the status quo right now. Also status quo is that buds sidelined in favour of edibles, vapes and other products. I work with dozens of seniors and people with illnesses etc who would never buy buds, grind them up, roll them and smoke them - they just eat a gummy bear or smear a bit of hash butter on a cracker. I was also at a party recently where they passed round a plate of gummies instead of a fat joint because people can't smoke in their apartments so much these days.

everything, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:20 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah ^

problem with edibles too is they are not always properly assigned the actual mg count, so for first time users they could get really fucked up. i have a high metabolism and edibles basically make me enter green hell

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:22 (six days ago) Permalink

Well one good thing is that now the exact composition of any product will be known to the buyers - like you see in Washington State.

everything, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:25 (six days ago) Permalink

well to all my fellow smokers i'll fire one up 4 ya today

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:26 (six days ago) Permalink

In addition to $100 ounces they were selling six pre-rolled joints for tenner. Can't beat those prices.

everything, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:28 (six days ago) Permalink

Yeah but us 'normies' now have a dude at a store telling us the best way to make proper edibles.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:29 (six days ago) Permalink

xp

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:29 (six days ago) Permalink

Amazing

so is this a celebratory move or just a move to counter the uncertainty some stores are probably feeling. Lotus for example hasn't really given a clear answer to whether they think they'll be kaput soon

no shade on normies van, just i find the anti-smoking aspect of smoking pot to be a little whack

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:30 (six days ago) Permalink

iirc, QC won't sell edibles, so I imagine Canada Post might be busy soon

rob, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:32 (six days ago) Permalink

Normie here. I've smoked maybe five times and never learned how to roll a joint. I'll probably give it a try soon but expect to feel very foolish as I figure this out.

jmm, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:37 (six days ago) Permalink

Is there an ilxor who wasn't a smoker who going to try now that's it is legal?

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:39 (six days ago) Permalink

jmm - get the roller device for like 5 bucks, makes rolling a lot easier

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:40 (six days ago) Permalink

@Van Horn Street

definitely way more tempted now - the idea that if i wanted to i could just walk into a store. i was never going to buy drugs from a dealer

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:55 (six days ago) Permalink

Same with me. I doubt that I'll be doing it very often, but I at least know how to buy it now.

jmm, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:59 (six days ago) Permalink

so is this a celebratory move or just a move to counter the uncertainty some stores are probably feeling.

Here in Vancouver we had roughly 80 stores already. Competition had already reduced prices to $5/gram. A lot of them closed yesterday and were selling everything cheap as can be and throwing in shop fittings with purchases. It's "Everything Must Go" time. Previously it was a city bylaw infraction which the city were not too keen to actively enforce. Now it's a federal crime with presumably more severe penalties.

everything, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:05 (six days ago) Permalink

edibles aren't actually legislated for currently iirc. are there any dispensaries in Vancouver that sell them? none of the ones i know do.

also yeah, such a weird thing that legalization is actually making the situation for buying and smoking cannabis worse in vancouver - and no doubt elsewhere, since laws differ between provinces

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:10 (six days ago) Permalink

The ones I use sell tons of edibles. West End Medicinals on Bute St, KushKlub on Commercial the Dispensary on Thurlow Street.

everything, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:12 (six days ago) Permalink

also yeah, such a weird thing that legalization is actually making the situation for buying and smoking cannabis worse in vancouver

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:10 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is exactly it

two people in my family are in the cannabis business, both live in los angeles and i think things are slightly better down there

i'll give bc/canada the benefit of the doubt for now because legalization has just happened, but so far, it's off to a very rough start

i hope they get their act together

one thing i'm disappointed in is that strains that are currently available, good/recognizable ones, will be harder to come by now that it is legal

i'm assuming that strains will now be subject to regulation and gov't approval before allowing them to be sold here (vancouver/bc), which puts a huge barrier on a lot of US growers or even smaller good ones

this would follow if the craft beer analogy is considered accurate, since good craft beer is so hard to come by here

granted it is all subjective, but still, very underwhelmed

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:30 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah fa otm

Ross, Thursday, 18 October 2018 16:53 (five days ago) Permalink

I like Bernie a tonne but I hope Doucet can actually, you know, win: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-votes-in-profile-clive-doucet-has-his-bernie-sanders-moment . (I don't even think he's wrong about the tornado tbh.) He'll probably need a small miracle but maybe enough of a showing could push Watson a bit to the left on housing and the environment. Are you in Capital ward, jmm?

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 October 2018 16:05 (three days ago) Permalink

Yep, Capital ward. You too? Honestly, I've paid so little attention to the councillor race it's shameful. I'm going to skim through this thing tonight and make a call: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/capital-ward-ottawa-municipal-election-2018-1.4792213

jmm, Sunday, 21 October 2018 18:59 (two days ago) Permalink

I'm in Somerset. I thought I remembered you saying you were in the Glebe/Old Ottawa S area. I like my incumbent councillor Catherine McKenney a fair bit. She wrote this: https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/mckenney-how-we-can-bring-more-affordable-housing-to-our-city

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 October 2018 19:01 (two days ago) Permalink

how we feeling, ontario?

shwarmaduke (symsymsym), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 04:29 (one hour ago) Permalink

well, at least I never have to hear about the fucking 6ix dad ever again

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 04:44 (forty-nine minutes ago) Permalink

"super-popular"? He lost!

everything, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 05:15 (eighteen minutes ago) Permalink


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