luxury, criminal decadence, martial-arts cops and profiling on the streets of the people's republic of china: WHEN A SNAIL FALLS IN LOVE

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it's on netflix (netflix UK anyway), it's a huge hit in china and worldwide (a billion viewers supposedly) and it has a blend of registers i don't think i've come across elswehere

starring wang kai (he, tough, brooding, senior, thre lion) and wang ziwen aka olivia wang (her, small, wary, clever, the snail)

(i don't know much abt chinese TV)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

one entertaining element of the profiling is that it is far more reliant on bluntly judgmental attitudes abt looks and intelligence than you mostly get in equivalent american or european scripts: "she is doing this bcz she is the prettiest sister, but she is not very bright" etc

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

interesting twist: she's the maverick -- brilliant sherlockian deductions but v casual (partly bcz v new and inexperienced) abt detectivework and keeping herself safe, while he's the rigorous rules-guy ("you will fail as a detective bcz you think you are a genius"), not a fusty boss (tho he is a boss) but the actual hard-bitten hardman

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(she's tiny btw)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:35 (three weeks ago) Permalink

and he's kind of a dick

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax5UvbzuwSo

(video hunts that the romance advances somewhat: at the moment it's at the he's an arsehole and thinks she's a nuisance; she think's he's an arsehole and is a bit smitten)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it's mainly set in in "lin city" which i think is lin'an near hangzhou

https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/53d0/3459/c07a/805a/9000/003c/large_jpg/owen.jpg?1406153814

^^above info dependent on translations in the subtitles

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

top marks for writing up their links and theories on normal whiteboard not fancy CSI see-through screens

mark s, Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

five episodes and the first time we're in an ordinary housing block: the specific apartment is super-rough but i don't think it's a family home or anything, it's a minor villain's pad/lock-up

mark s, Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

my main complaint abt this otherwise extremely absorbing show is that it's VERY SLOW

(i suppose given the series title this may be a deliberate directorial choice)

mark s, Friday, 26 January 2018 17:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(this is the first chinese TV series i've ever watched so i have no comparison)

mark s, Friday, 26 January 2018 17:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it just struck me that i don't think there's been the slightest hint so far that such a thing as the CPC exists and would presumably in some sense be part of this story* (i have no idea how, it's a thing i'd like to find out)

*the Ye corporation, round which the various crimes in this show to date have been centred, has among other things recently lost 1.7 billion yuan in overseas trading (= c.£1.9 billion i think, so an appreciable amount even in so vast a country)

mark s, Friday, 26 January 2018 18:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

capt ji: "i'm an officer of the law. i only believe in evidence, not stories" (this is vey grissom: "evidence doesn't lie")

mark s, Saturday, 27 January 2018 17:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lol xu xu gets stabbed every other episode

mark s, Saturday, 27 January 2018 17:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

oh no wait it's capt ji this time

mark s, Saturday, 27 January 2018 17:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

excellent cokehead (coke is not mentioned)

mark s, Saturday, 27 January 2018 19:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

capt ji to xu xu: "you may be small but you've got lots of flaws. monsters don't have a gender"

(he is beginning to fall for her hard)

mark s, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

drugs and trafficking have now become a storyline btw: we've seen the coke but no one has called it coke

mark s, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i’m reaching around for something to watching after trying and failing almost immediately to watch mcmafia, and find myself gradually falling into the idea of the snail’s web...

Fizzles, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

\o/

mark s, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

e11: in which shit gets very real :0

(also crystallised my feeling that the makers are keen fans of the cumberbatch sherlock -- this is not at all as tricksy and glib as that but the way it framed the new villain…)

mark s, Monday, 29 January 2018 21:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

mcmafia is trash and not in a good way - apart from some really outstanding acting from russians i'll most likely never see in anything ever again :/

i will hit this

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

\o/ \o/

mark s, Friday, 2 February 2018 19:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i caught the first ep and this seemed like any other chinese drama lol. i'll keep at it though

, Friday, 2 February 2018 19:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i have watched seen no other chinese dramas ever!

(except jackie chan films and ZU WARRIORS OF THE MAGIC MOUNTAIN, which were mostly made in pre-handover hong kong)

mark s, Friday, 2 February 2018 19:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

e12 is the slowest yet: ALL FOUR OF YOU JUST FUCK ALREADY, OMIGOD

mark s, Friday, 2 February 2018 22:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

love 2 see multiple burmese guards with machine guns overcome with good old-fashioned unarmed martial arts skills

mark s, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:06 (one week ago) Permalink

(myanmar is portrayed as a corrupt third-world wild-west kind of a country: picturesque and with good put-upon people pushed around by its military -- or at least by corrupt elements in the military)

mark s, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:21 (one week ago) Permalink

fake blood is very orange in this show

mark s, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:25 (one week ago) Permalink

ji bai n xu xu love interlude scored by (eng lang, mild-mannered country) cover version of tim mcgraw's "where the green grass grows"

mark s, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:37 (one week ago) Permalink

and that's it

mark s, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:01 (one week ago) Permalink


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