US Politics, February 2018: Our country was founded by geniuses, but it’s being run by idiots

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fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 06:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

A spokesman for Nunes responded to Schiff's letter by calling it an "increasingly strange attempt to thwart publication of the memo," saying changes were made that were "minor edits to the memo, including grammatical fixes and two edits requested by the FBI and by the Minority themselves."
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"The vote to release the memo was absolutely procedurally sound, and in accordance with House and Committee rules," Nunes spokesman Jack Langer said. "To suggest otherwise is a bizarre distraction from the abuses detailed in the memo, which the public will hopefully soon be able to read for themselves."

But senior Democratic committee official disputed that characterization of the alterations to the memo and said they did not resolve the factual problems that have been raised by the FBI or Justice Department.

"The changes are not cosmetic and almost all of them are unrelated to concerns about sensitive information. Instead, they try to water down some of the Majority's assertions," the official said. "While the Minority has continually pointed out flaws in the majority document, we have not requested any changes because we feel the whole document is fundamentally flawed."

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 06:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

good thread title

flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 06:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If Hope Hicks does down what 25 year olds will be left to run the government

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

BARRON

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

in case you were wondering, Trump's claim that his SOTU got the "highest ratings ever recorded", is in fact not true

frogbs, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Is there a website compiling the Trump utterances which are factually accurate? Or is it not worth creating a website featuring so little content?

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

good mourning!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

#SOTU TV Viewers:
2018: 45.6M
2017: 47.7M*
2016: 31.3M
2015: 31.7M
2014: 33.3M
2013: 33.5M
2012: 37.8M
2011: 42.8M
2010: 48.0M
2009: 52.4M*
2008: 37.5M
2007: 45.5M
2006: 41.7M
2005: 38.4M
2004: 43.4M
2003: 62.1M
1993: 66.9M* (largest TV audience)

*Not an official SOTU pic.twitter.com/OZlUHmGQp4

— Fox News Research (@FoxNewsResearch) February 1, 2018

I don't know what's stranger, that Fox News is fact-checking Trump or that every speech that beat his was somehow "not an official SOTU"

frogbs, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

2003 and 2010 don't have an asterix

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh. then, the first one I guess

frogbs, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"not an official SOTU" = the speeches delivered by new presidents to joint sessions of Congress; hence why they happened in 2017, 2009, and 1993 (and presumably 2001 etc)

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

People want to hear the first statements by new presidents, then their interest drops off. Trump will never beat these ratings.

Frederik B, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

sad

j., Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

so we're really not gonna sanction russia (!) for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

not to defend the dorks at all, but my understanding is that they are already being sanctioned, just not getting extra sanctions. And the sanctions have not been lifted.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

People want to hear the first statements by new presidents, then their interest drops off. Trump will never beat these ratings.

Nobody tell Two Scoops why W in 2003 was so high then.

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Harold & Kumar have the answer to that iirc.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

so we're really not gonna sanction russia (!) for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election?

sanctions mostly hurt ordinary citizens and shouldn't be encouraged imho

https://www.worldfinance.com/special-reports/the-impact-of-economic-sanctions

Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i'm worried about sanctions the Yam regime are putting on we the people

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Why, the penny drops!

Mark Meadows says he's talked w/ Dems about how the border wall is offensive to some Latinos & now wants to make sure we "secure our border without sending a bad message"

— Liz Goodwin (@lizcgoodwin) February 1, 2018

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I thought the whole point of the wall was to offend Latinos.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

File under "news shocking to nobody":

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/politics/nunes-memo-donald-trump/index.html

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i don't understand what's so bad about the white house co-authoring a congressional memo that casts aspersions on an investigation into the white house's obstruction of justice when it comes to investigating conspiracy with a foreign adversary to interfere with an american election. aren't both sides bad?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there are some very fine people on both sides

Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Have there been any indications that Mueller is investigating Nunes? Because I can't help but wonder what he's getting out of all of this.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

a tugjob

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

People want to hear the first statements by new presidents, then their interest drops off. Trump will never beat these ratings.

Which is why he's considering not running for reelection, but resigning and then running again. So he'll be a new president again. All about ratings, baby.

make sure we "secure our border without sending a bad message"

Maybe paint some pictures of tacos and other Mexican stuff on the wall?

I heard about a Chinese restaurant that became a Mexican restaurant, but they liked the art, so they painted sombreros on the pandas on the window.

https://i.imgur.com/J4bFtuY.jpg

Just a suggestion.

I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

if he resigns, he'll prob get huge ratings.

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

WH saying Trump has read the memo; not sure how that's possible unless it's been converted into a book-on-tape

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It's a picture book with his photo on every other page to keep him focused. 'There I am again!'

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Did Putin sign off on the memo, y/n?

Moodles, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

apparently the memo is only 4 pages, which is 3 pages longer than Trump's attention span. but maybe he did it in chunks.

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The only way that memo could be read by him would be tweeting it at him in 400 character parts. Or print it on his toilet paper for, y'know, when he's tweeting.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Trump: (mutters to self while slowly scanning memo with a pained expression) Devin, what's this word?
Nunes: That's 'collusion', Mr. President.
Trump: 'Collusion', right, right. (continues muttering) What about this one?
Nunes: The word is 'FBI'.
Trump: And that one?
Nunes: That's your name, Mr. President.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Trump: Okay, I've seen that one before. And this word?
Nunes: That's a smear of steak sauce, sir. It's all over your hands.
Trump: But what word is it?

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This is about what I would figure, making it even more of a muddle:

DEVELOPING: The White House has agreed to some redactions in the FISA memo at the FBI’s request, per multiple WH officials.

— Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) February 1, 2018

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i hope everyone just takes a deep breath and remembers how careless that crooked nasty woman was with classified information

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The redactions are only going to set off the monkey house all the louder.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Well, exactly. As well as making a short and apparently contextless memo even shorter.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i hope something exciting happens soon... trump bores me

flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm sure Trump's followers will accept, with their trademarked grace and quiet dignity, the FBI-requested redactions in this memo about the FBI's conspiracy to destroy America.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i hope something exciting happens soon

famous last words

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Pres. Trump says Sen. Orrin Hatch told him he was a better president than Washington and Lincoln

— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) February 1, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Exciting!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

lol if anyone would remember those dudes it would be Hatch

sleeve, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm all for free speech but anyone who makes a claim like that in seriousness should be jailed for life.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Or, in this case, immediately stripped of his Senatorship, at the absolute least.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

He wss high when he said it

Moodles, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

man i suck at making jokes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH46Gc8fiPA

maura, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:11 (yesterday) Permalink

this should end well

Two guests on @chrislhayes' show last night - @RepJerryNadler & @PhilippeReines said alleged Russia email hacking/troll farm activity is equivalent to Pearl Harbor. https://t.co/XlZU7wq3Cn https://t.co/T3wz6WtJmu

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) February 17, 2018

Simon H., Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:48 (yesterday) Permalink

The president's new Twitter banner is a photo of him smiling and giving a thumbs up while meeting tonight with police officers who responded to the massacre of 17 people, most of them students, at a high school in Parkland pic.twitter.com/3NoH95CqKQ

— Mark Berman (@markberman) February 17, 2018

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:16 (twenty-two hours ago) Permalink

That Twitter thread has moronic nonsense.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:16 (twenty-two hours ago) Permalink

Ha xpost

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:17 (twenty-two hours ago) Permalink

This is as scary as shit and so many progressives and liberals are falling for it. I don't know what we can do. Twitter and Facebook hide and demote anything that contradicts the Russia-gate narrative.

— EdgeOfSanity (@Quentin_Mann) February 17, 2018

will someone think of poor liberals and progressives like Quentin Mann

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:18 (twenty-two hours ago) Permalink

very kind of you alfred

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:13 (twenty hours ago) Permalink

(to mention me upthread i mean)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:13 (twenty hours ago) Permalink

For my part, as a Bernie supporter, I have chosen to realize that today’s announcements are actually NOT ABOUT ME what a concept

― El Tomboto, Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:55 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same and seeing that "People 4 Bernie" felt compelled to issue a statement about this mueller move made me want to throw my computer at a wall

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:14 (twenty hours ago) Permalink

you're one of my lights, HOOS

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:14 (twenty hours ago) Permalink

we literally were not talking about bernie at all until the tweet maura linked brought him up!

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:43 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

(not trying to imply anything about maura, just that it wasn't like rabid bernie stans, a group that does not include me, weren't itching for a fight about it AFAICT)

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:44 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

*were lol

anyway I saw the first "chapo is russian" take today so that was inevitable

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:45 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

For my part, as a Bernie supporter, I have chosen to realize that today’s announcements are actually NOT ABOUT ME what a concept

― El Tomboto

It’s kind of about them though if people are going to be suspecting all left opposition of being a russian psy op now

treeship 2, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:50 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

anyway, this better end up with trump getting indicted for something

treeship 2, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:51 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

that would be nice

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:55 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

These indictments provide political cover for the investigation, and may provide additional witnesses.

Peeling an onion. Just like his Enron investigation.

Acanthonus armatus (Sanpaku), Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:58 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

Better be

treeship 2, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:59 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

Honestly, we may come into an impasse in which many involved in the campaign (certainly Manafort and Jr.) are indicted for conspiracy against the U.S., but there is nothing that rises to "high crimes" from DJT himself. I believe there will be money laundering charges generally unrelated to the campaign, going back decades, and I'm not sure that's within Mueller's scope.

The best I hope for from this administration is that its crippled from committing further harm. A DJT indictment isn't neccessary for that.

The best I hope for for the investigation is that it causes any future narcissist opportunists to realize that campaigning for the presidency isn't a marketing move, and will put everything they or their associates have ever done under a microscope. We don't need all politicians to be saints, but we deserve better than the devil incarnate.

Acanthonus armatus (Sanpaku), Sunday, 18 February 2018 03:07 (nineteen hours ago) Permalink

but there is nothing that rises to "high crimes" from DJT himself

At least no evidence that connects him directly. He has a very limited inner circle who would probably have to testify against him, if he is ever to be tied in directly to the Russian tampering. I think it's not too likely Don Jr., Ivanka or Jared are going to turn state's evidence against him. Manafort probably expects a pardon. Flynn may not know enough to nail Trump without corroboration from others or unassailable documentary evidence.

We'll see.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 18 February 2018 03:55 (eighteen hours ago) Permalink

I’m not sure whether or not this is horrifying, inevitable, or horrifying that it was inevitablehttps://t.co/rubwCTGBmS

— Rob Flaherty (@Rob_Flaherty) February 18, 2018

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:27 (seventeen hours ago) Permalink

aaah fuck this president.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:31 (seventeen hours ago) Permalink

Obviously at this point a twitter jokester will post a screenshot of an e-mail from Mueller demanding that the FBI reassign all Florida personnel to the Trump investigation, and within a week 25 percent of the country will believe it.

JoeStork, Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:38 (seventeen hours ago) Permalink

I don’t really care about the FBI. It’s a reactionary organization, but I’d venture a guess that they were too busy spying on Black activists and entrapping people to get to this call. That’s their back to basics program, honestly.

— Dominick (@FanonsDream) February 18, 2018

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:49 (seventeen hours ago) Permalink

one thing that's important to keep in mind with the FBI is that the agents working on the trump case are also the only people capable of handling tips about potential mass shooters in the Florida office.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 05:09 (seventeen hours ago) Permalink

SO the prez pretty much blamed the school shooting on the Russia investigation today

frogbs, Sunday, 18 February 2018 06:26 (fifteen hours ago) Permalink

I definitely disagree him on that one.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 18 February 2018 09:06 (thirteen hours ago) Permalink

so good of simon h to share the absolute worst tweets and threads so i know to avoid them if i see them in the wild. you and morbs are doing the lord's work.

too notch (stevie), Sunday, 18 February 2018 09:23 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

How long before Trump exploits the failures of the FBI in this case?

― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2018 13:56 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought it would be within the week. Of course he's never going to shut up about this now.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 February 2018 10:04 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

lmao stevie, regardless of yr politics, if you earnestly think Dominick's tweet there represents anything near the worst of twitter you're in for a shock

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 12:28 (nine hours ago) Permalink

Did he get locked in the shitter this morning?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 18 February 2018 12:52 (nine hours ago) Permalink

17 kids were murdered

this is our president tonight pic.twitter.com/bShXe55ucs

— Tim Dickinson (@7im) February 18, 2018

Frederik B, Sunday, 18 February 2018 13:32 (eight hours ago) Permalink

Eh -- this line of attack is lame. We're back to criticizing Dubya for playing golf as if that's the problem.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2018 13:34 (eight hours ago) Permalink

yeah the "have you no decency" line won't change anyone's mind

Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 13:56 (eight hours ago) Permalink

we all already know the answer

persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 February 2018 14:06 (eight hours ago) Permalink

But there are other people than those who needs to change their minds or die.

Frederik B, Sunday, 18 February 2018 14:13 (eight hours ago) Permalink

It's really not hard to ditch the lines of attack that will never work

Having students protest gun massacres every damn day is one good start

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 February 2018 14:20 (seven hours ago) Permalink

You guys are so hard on him, it's pretty obvious to me that he is being very strong in public, putting up a good front, and that the second the cameras are off and he's somewhere private, he just breaks down in tears. That's why he is reportedly such a homebody. He likes hanging at his own places because he knows all the hideaways where he can escape and just have a good cry.

Same with those porn stars and Playboy models. He just wanted someone to talk to, man. Someone like him, who knows what it's like to be objectified, to be dismissed as stupid or nothing but good looks, to hurt. Someone real. If it turned to sex that's just because of the close, honest connection they established, over shared experiences, over the disrespect born of being self-made but mocked by peers as a poseur or fake, over the dark strains of self-loathing that stem from growing up in a tough family where love came conditionally and at a premium.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves for ignoring his clear pain just to score easy laughs and cheap political points.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 February 2018 14:39 (seven hours ago) Permalink

he asks for two scoops to feed one under the table to the cutest little black russian terrier puppy he's too bashful to admit he bought himself for christmas in 2016 to celebrate the defeat of crooked hillary. tax cuts

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 18 February 2018 14:46 (seven hours ago) Permalink

I'm mostly just appalled that, in lieu of showing up in person to offer condolences, he's apparently just paid Madame Tussaud to truck his 'thumbs up' model from appearance to appearance.

Love Theme from Biodome (Old Lunch), Sunday, 18 February 2018 14:48 (seven hours ago) Permalink

He's too cheap for wax, that shit is cardboard.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 February 2018 15:21 (six hours ago) Permalink

i saw him at Tussauds yesterday. never had to work so hard to stop myself from defacing artwork.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2018 15:23 (six hours ago) Permalink

A well-placed space heater or discreet hairdryer, maybe?

persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 February 2018 15:54 (six hours ago) Permalink

an overheated cell phone in his blazer pocket

Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Sunday, 18 February 2018 16:29 (five hours ago) Permalink

been a while since we've had a full on morning meltdown from the President of the United States

frogbs, Sunday, 18 February 2018 16:31 (five hours ago) Permalink

"Great Pollster John McLaughlin now has the GOP up in the Generic Congressional Ballot. Big gain over last 4 weeks. I guess people are loving the big Tax Cuts given them by the Republicans, the Cuts the Dems want to take away. We need more Republicans!"

i can see that mclaughlin is a really reputable polling firm: http://mclaughlinonline.com/2017/09/21/bombthrowers-com-mainstream-political-polls-commit-fraud/

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 17:17 (five hours ago) Permalink

wtf I haven't seen a single dime from this alleged tax cut.

akm, Sunday, 18 February 2018 18:47 (three hours ago) Permalink

Hmm, we'll need to look into that. You should've received your dime by now.

Animal Bag's Greatest Hits Vol. 5 (Old Lunch), Sunday, 18 February 2018 19:02 (three hours ago) Permalink


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