BRITISHES - have you started stockpiling food and medicine yet?

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Starting to think this might not be a bad idea. But what to stockpile?

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 January 2019 12:27 (five years ago) link

Toilet Paper.
Painkillers.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 19 January 2019 12:32 (five years ago) link

Tinned veg.
Tuna.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 19 January 2019 12:33 (five years ago) link

Tinned tomatoes and Dried pasta

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 19 January 2019 12:34 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/vX0jSmd.jpg

||||||||, Saturday, 19 January 2019 12:35 (five years ago) link

I'll most likely still be here when the shit hits the fan but I haven't given it any thought. I survived the tail-end of the Ceaușescu era – never mind that my parents did all the surviving for me – so I tell myself that it can't possibly be worse. At least there will be exciting stories to tell about the UK – because in some pathetically twisted way it's what this national temper tantrum is ultimately all about.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 January 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link

Lentils, tomato passata, rice, 5kg bag of panch phoron - would be set with dhal for the next year.

ShariVari, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link

tinned chickpeas, sacks of rice.

calzino, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link

i just checked if my many meds are on a risk list yet (they're not)

i can stand to lose a few pounds tbh and know lots abt fending off scurvy from reading tales of scott and shackleton and so on (or franklin: eat boots, then each other)

mark s, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:06 (five years ago) link

I've accidentally stockpiled couscous by forgetting I already had some in

have you ever seen a VONC's tears? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:13 (five years ago) link

somewhat concerned about naproxen shortage but haven't started stockpiling yet

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:21 (five years ago) link

then each other

now you’ve got my attention

Effectively Big Jim with a beard. (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:30 (five years ago) link

Stockpiling is like trampling people to death: you're contributing to the problem itself but you kinda feel compelled

have you ever seen a VONC's tears? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link

during the heavy snowfall last year people in Glasgow were posting bread and milk updates on facebook and that was because shops closed early two days in a row.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:36 (five years ago) link

No need - we will grow our own food. Freedom.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link

not yet, may stockpile potatoes and combine them with the nettles from the wood by our house to make soup.

Grandpont Genie, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:53 (five years ago) link

Thread for documenting effects of Brexit in your own situations

Not been much traction on the tangible effects of brexit thread yet, maybe one to watch

anvil, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link

guns and ammo

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

i am certain that my longstanding preorder on various fortnum and masons hampers of comedy marmalade is about to pay off

mark s, Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link

US survivalists currently gazing across the pond with infinite longing.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:16 (five years ago) link

Yeah, there comes a booming sound
It used to come from underground

And now it emanates
From a kind of welfare state
Of the soul
Yeah, baby of the soul

And of the sweet, sweet soul
Let's be certain
Of the deliberate monologue

As sure as if it will fall
Across you, unto you
Will most certainly leave the doing
The doing undone

Come on undone
Come on undone

And we are doing
And we are screwing

Up our lives today, today!
Up our lives today, today!
Up our lives today, today!

It's this we chanted
It's this we planted

C'mon progeny, progeny!
C'mon progeny, progeny!
C'mon progeny, progeny!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link

How does stocking up while supplies are unaffected contribute to the problem? Genuine q.

I've been buying extra tinned tomatoes, rice, beans, lentils and putting them away. Ten years ago I did something similar after reading a few too many peak oil / 'collapse' things and that turned out to be a bit daft but hey the food still got eaten. And I learned a bit about the Cuban Special Period and urban permaculture.

Drop out of life with VONC in hand (Noel Emits), Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link

The early stages of the British Special Period were defined by a general breakdown in transportation and agricultural sectors, fertilizer and pesticide stocks, and widespread food shortages. Permaculturists arriving in Britain at the time began to distribute aid and taught their techniques to locals, who soon implemented them in British fields, raised beds, and urban rooftops across the nation. Organic agriculture was soon after mandated by the British government, supplanting the old industrialized form of agriculture Britons had grown accustomed to. Relocalization, permaculture, and innovative modes of mass transit had to be rapidly developed. For a time, waiting for a bus could take three hours, power outages could last up to sixteen hours, food consumption was cut back to one-fifth of its previous level and the average Briton lost about nine kilograms (twenty pounds). Although starvation was avoided, persistent hunger suddenly became a daily experience, and initially, malnutrition in children under five was evident after just a few weeks of these food shortages.

||||||||, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link

I have started picking up an extra bit or two and putting them in the garage, no downside to this as far as I can see

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link

Oh I was half joking and half thinking of panic buying rather than relatively benign and gradual stockpiling. There must be a quiet point where one tips into the other and exacerbates possible shortages tho.

have you ever seen a VONC's tears? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link

At least there will be exciting stories to tell about the UK – because in some pathetically twisted way it's what this national temper tantrum is ultimately all about.

I had a conversation about this whole mess yesterday that included the line “if we’d had this lot in charge in WW2 we’d all be speaking German”, so yeah.

gyac, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link

I haven’t been stockpiling but I think I have enough chickpeas, rice and Maggi liquid seasoning in to keep me going for a while

This is all such a shitshow that I half expect it to come down to a live coin flip between no deal and revoking a50 so mainly the extent of my planning is... fingers crossed for tails I guess

gray say nah to me (wins), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link

In my experience of watching post-apocalypse movies you wanna be in the marauding gang, not hiding in a poorly-defended homestead with the stuff the marauding gangs want

have you ever seen a VONC's tears? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link

On the plus side I have enough reading material in my flat to last me decades. Come to think of it, that could double as food - just call me Matt Goodwins

gray say nah to me (wins), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

You can freeze (french, italian) cheese.

Yerac, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link

There were actually no dried chickpeas in my regular shop today and I may have detected a slightly more frantic than usual vibe amongst my fellow shoppers. Although that could also be the weather which people seem to take way too personally.

But yeah I'd be buying that stuff anyway just not quite so far in advance.

Tips for non-perishable food that's cheap, delicious and nutritious are good!

Drop out of life with VONC in hand (Noel Emits), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link

In WWII you wouldn't have been going around with your ration book looking m in the knowledge that half the fuckers around you voted for the Nazis. I feel that probably helped with the 'all pull together' aspect.

Drop out of life with VONC in hand (Noel Emits), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link

just checking the contents of what grows on my two windowsills:
— rosemary, yes!
— mint, yes!
— chillis, yes! (tho i doubt this will survive the winter so far, i've never not had to replant)
— rather pretty fern i bought on a whim bcz it looked japanesey, name unknown, no idea!
— small golden cypress i have used as an xmas tree twice running, not considered edible!
— succulents (misc): many are toxic, some are fancy salad food, generally the more cactus-y ones afaics!
— thrift: "there is an ancient but probably quite unfounded belief that extracts made from thrift can be used to cure lead poisoning. the family name plumbaginaceae reflects this supposition. (we strongly advise against eating or using as medicines any plants without first obtaining qualified professional advice)!"

mark s, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link

many are toxic

I see you're hedging your bets.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

I'd leave the fern alone if I were you! Contains an enzyme that makes Vitamin B1 less available to the body, so chronic consumption can lead to nastiness like beriberi.

Grandpont Genie, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link

#notallferns

https://www.thespruceeats.com/thmb/Q5JgRZmjaC4Jze1BE1HRxUyXDnw=/3008x2000/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/Saute-ed-Fiddlehead-Ferns-57d486f75f9b589b0a8bcfc8.jpg

(but mine are not fiddleheads, they are much lacier and merely fern-like possibly)

in addition i have a quite large quite old schlumbergera truncata aka christmas cactus: the internet tells me that the flowers "may be edible but not palatable" and is coy abt the rest (some of which is by now more woody than not anyway)

mark s, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link

non-non-toxic succulents can be used to coat arrow tips - though remember to leave the last one for you.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 January 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

Lol the effort involved in shooting yourself with a bow

have you ever seen a VONC's tears? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 January 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

somewhat concerned about naproxen shortage but haven't started stockpiling yet

I have about 20 or so of these left over from an injury last year which I could post to you if things get really desperate

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 January 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

wine is medicine as well.

calzino, Saturday, 19 January 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link

Tips for non-perishable food that's cheap, delicious and nutritious are good!

Try to approximate foods you would normally eat, e.g. if you never cook or eat lentils normally, don't go buying a 5 kilo bag of them. But if you love mushy peas, you're all set.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 19 January 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

That's good advice.

As it happens the core of my regular diet is er, rice, beans, lentils and tinned tomatoes. And porridge. So no change there at all.

On a basic survival level that's fine but without fresh fruit, nuts, (non-dairy) milk and other treats could get a bit tedious even for me.

Drop out of life with VONC in hand (Noel Emits), Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link

Nuts and dried fruit last pretty darn well, especially if you store them away from heat. The food supply chain disruption will get sorted, but prices might go up even after the supply is secured.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

And ground turmeric. Wouldn't want to go without. But stuff like spices and nuts starts to add up and they're not strictly 'essential'.

Drop out of life with VONC in hand (Noel Emits), Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link

Tinned pulses, rice or couscous and the right spices are a big chunk of my staple diet when I'm functioning, def

have you ever seen a VONC's tears? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link

I had to go to 3 chemists today to get a prescription inhaler, the first 2 said there were supply problems... :/ dunno if Brexit but gonna blame Brexit. (inhaler is for my asthmatic cat)

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

having been on several different types of medication over the last couple of years (fortunately off most now) it surprised me how often it was possible to hit supply problems. it was something i never really got to the bottom of either. like how/why does that take place? what’s the supply chain?

this is a good pharmacist as well (i had to switch from a previous one because they were a it crap)

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link

“never really got to the bottom of” = “never made the effort to google”

Current issues with the medicines supply chain
There are a number of obstacles to a smooth-running supply chain:

  • The rise of generic medicines and a globalised supply chain mean some medicines are made only in one or two factories across the world. If there is a problem at one of those factories, or a glitch in the transportation system, it is possible for the entire stock of particular medicines to become unavailable for months
  • The quota system used by some branded medicine manufacturers to try to restrict the trading of medicines within the European free market
  • Wholesalers applying surcharges that are massively out of proportion to the level of stock ordered
https://www.npa.co.uk/representing-you/campaigns/medicines-supply-chain/

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

Of course, it's that darned globalist agenda!

Drop out of life with VONC in hand (Noel Emits), Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link

are there other explanations? as i say it seemed surprisingly widespread and it seemed difficult to fathom why - perhaps due to the mental image of pills in blister packs i feel that pharmaceuticals are mostly industrialised these days so you’d assume the supply/demand loop wd be fairly smooth.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:10 (five years ago) link

ffs even after seeing the mint ppl made during y2k and after 9/11 we're still letting these opportunities pass us by ppl lets hustle

topical mlady (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 11:47 (five years ago) link

Haunting ILX is generally bad for business.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 11:49 (five years ago) link

Whenever he can, my dad will say with pride he still has some tinned meatballs from when he was in the army around 1970 iirc. "You can still eat those, you know!" He never will though.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 11:56 (five years ago) link

nor should he, tbf

“I'm the sexy gorilla and I'm going to hell“ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 11:56 (five years ago) link

If that Brexit box doesn't include a rifle to defend yourself from passing raiders then it's not worth the cash.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 12:06 (five years ago) link

*galaxy brain* the people who really need to stockpile won't be able to afford to

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 12:17 (five years ago) link

British stockpiling fantasies are ludicrous. At least American stockpiling fantasies have some kind of internal logic (weapons)

anvil, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:02 (five years ago) link

Sure, sensibly stocking up on dried and tinned food and medicine ahead of widely-anticipated supply chain problems is less logical than filling your basement with automatic weapons because fox news has melted your brain.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link

when it comes to stockpiling an englishman's home is his castle (pictured):

https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2019/01/turkish-chateau-burj-al-babas-turkey_dezeen_1704_sq_1.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link

I love that the Brexit box includes lighter fluid. Presumably the British prepper will be stockpiling counterfeit Romanian fags so unecessary in the brexit not itself.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link

lighter fluid is to help start fires kindled from dismantled household furniture over which the withered corpses of grandparents/spouses/neighbours etc will be roasted iirc

“I'm the sexy gorilla and I'm going to hell“ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link

idk abt medicine but the things ppl are stockpiling/in that box seem like the things that we are least likely to run out of

ogmor, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:21 (five years ago) link

There’s also a deluxe box for £595!
https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/search.php?search_query=brexit

gyac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

the emergency water filter is the funniest bit

"Tesco out of tomatoes for a week" = Mad Max end times

Sarri, Sarri, pride of our alley (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link

that £595 brexit box appears to have enough food to last one person maybe a month on three meals a day

£595 spent correctly in aldi could probably last you the rest of your adult life, but tbf it doesn't come in a plastic box with a union jack printed on a sheet of a4 stuck to the side

“I'm the sexy gorilla and I'm going to hell“ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:51 (five years ago) link

i assume these things are designed to turn up unopened on Antiques Roadshow in 20 years time, when a cybernetically-enhanced David Barby will tell the owner that the box is now worth £50, before throttling them and draining the life essence from their corpse

Sarri, Sarri, pride of our alley (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link

the rest of your adult life,

also a month iirc

mark s, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

well, yeah

“I'm the sexy gorilla and I'm going to hell“ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

lol NV

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

oh thats a very generous prediction on what sterling is gonna be worth

topical mlady (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

RFI ebay bog roll bulk buys ;-)

*there's (Noel Emits), Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

I've already been doing that for years, but I'll get an extra 216 this month!

calzino, Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link

When I was in W4itrose last buying loads of beans (also something I do regularly anyway) some cock at the next checkout was making cracks about how much toilet paper I'd need. Tbf that is a consideration.

*there's (Noel Emits), Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

2 extra boxes of wine than I normally have in + several shelves of extras (pasta/sauces/crisps/cereals/soups/beans)
i.e. yes.
next week I will buy more wine.

mark e, Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link

I'm glad to be not the only wine-box savage on here!

calzino, Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link

i used to roll the foil bag up like a toothpaste tube to get that last half glass out :D

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link

Looks like I quit the wrong month to quit drinking drano

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

picked the wrong month even

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

ITT: evidence you didn't yet quit

mark s, Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link

i'm surprised i haven't started seeing "Go Bag" ads popping up in my Insta feed.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:41 (five years ago) link

"i used to roll the foil bag up like a toothpaste tube to get that last half glass out :D"

AKA thursday night for me, after wednesday tesco delivery :p

calzino, Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link

i don't feel so bad about my alcoholism after reading about P Toynbee's dad in that Donald Maclean book, he used to knock back 6 bottles of vodka with the soviet agent and they'd trash flats together and be complete posh degenerates. and still he found time to go into a right wing sulk in his old age and write a piece about how he was glad everyone was over J R R Tolkien - just before the massive unstoppable global success of the hobbit et al.

calzino, Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:03 (five years ago) link

i used to roll the foil bag up like a toothpaste tube to get that last half glass out :D
― Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague),

hang on, you mean there are people who don't do that !?

mark e, Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

Indeed.

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

You people disgust me. I pour the drano into a tumbler at the very least

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link

A flute if I'm feeling fancy

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link

Flutes make anything taste classy

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:23 (five years ago) link

That's an ostentatious but still classy way to take a dainty sip of drano

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

Toulouse Lautrec used to have a hollow walking stick full of absinthe which would help him through his day.

calzino, Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

I’m glad Australia’s greatest ever invention is available to see you through the dark times

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link

you ppl worry too much

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link

comrade alphabetical has been stockpiling tinned mung beans since 2015

mark s, Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:47 (five years ago) link

its a week out what ye are doing now is just 'the shop' ye are 'shopping'

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:52 (five years ago) link

Mao Tse-mung beans.

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link

I see Marina Hyde has just dispatched her weekly funny column to The Guardian, talking Apocalypse for laughs - the world turns, its fine.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:55 (five years ago) link

a glass of white is the best way to swallow a ranitidine.

Doesn't Ethan Hawke's character mix his whisky with Pepto Bismol at one point in the film?

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 22 March 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link

Thought that was a riff on Diary of a Country Priest, and his diet of hard bread dipped in wine

Ward Fowler, Friday, 22 March 2019 09:01 (five years ago) link

we got a jar of 300 naproxen delivered from the USA, but that was as much to do with our GPs being incompetent wankers as Brexit. that particular medicine is on an at risk list though so it's doubly important we have a stock of it

Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 March 2019 09:34 (five years ago) link


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