END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/trump-bernie-sanders-socialism.html?via=taps_top

This moronic piece argues that voters don't actually know Bernie is a socialist.

A Rasmussen survey, taken in November for the conservative Heartland Institute, found that 20 percent of likely voters who expressed a very favorable view of Sanders also said they wouldn’t “vote for a presidential candidate who identifies himself or herself as a socialist.” Maybe these voters would set aside their aversion to socialism and elect Sanders.

But that’s pretty optimistic. When people contradict themselves in a survey, the simplest explanation is that they’re not aware of the contradiction. What happens when people who say they like Sanders, but who also say they’d never vote for a socialist, find out he’s a socialist? How many of those voters can Democrats afford to lose?

I may have this wrong, but isn't Rasmussen considered as completely unreliable and designed to support Conservative issues and politicians?

voters seemed happy enough to pick gay muslim socialist barry soetero twice at the ballot box iirc

Nah, Rasmussen isn't THAT bad. The models still include them. But they have a Gop bias for sure. I think they call it 'house effect' or something.

Ah, wasn't sure. I had heard they had a bad reputation but wasn't sure how much of an outlier they actually were. Problems with polling have been well documented over recent years but aside from how questions are framed I think a deeper question is about how ideologically consistent voters are (not especially) and how difficult it is to accurately capture people who aren't necessarily consistent or cohesive in what they think (and how such wildly disparate people just get thrown together as 'moderates' when they are often anything but

Rasmussen is bad not good. But it's still useful information, they are bad in a consistent way. It's not like they just make up shit or lie or anything. Whatever they do wrong just happens to consistently show Republicans in a slightly more favorable light. Perhaps too much weight on landlines = too many old people answering = a bias towards the right. It is what it is. Other pollsters have more left wing biases, and nobody really knows exactly what the difference is, I don't think.

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— leon (@leyawn) January 29, 2020

One interesting fact is that Rasmussen had Republicans winning the popular vote for the US House last year and Democrats actually won it by **9** points, which makes for about twice as bad a fuck-up as any pollster had in 2016. https://t.co/I2nZaoWOnc

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) June 16, 2019

Checked: They have a pollster rating of C+ and a bias of 1,5% Republican. So they aren't good. But 538 still includes them.

A Frantic Campaign Schedule Appears To Catch Up With One Candidate

Oh yes? Is it Bernie Sanders? Has he canceled an appearance? More heart problems?

What? It's just a fucking caption of a courtroom sketch of guy yawning?

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/30/us/politics/29IMPEACHSKETCHES-Sanders/29IMPEACHSKETCHES-Sanders-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg

Looking good in California.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11798764/bernie-sanders-pulls-away-from-pack-in-california

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii and billionaire and former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg were the top choice of just 4%, followed by Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar (3%) and billionaire Californian Tom Steyer (2%).

gonna be hard for amy to pull this off but i have faith in our girl

Klobučar apparently means 'hatter' in Slovenian and Serbo-Croatian.

hatters gonna hat

Specially when they mad.

Mona Lisas and Mad Klobuchars

https://fair.org/home/washington-post-ran-16-negative-stories-on-bernie-sanders-in-16-hours/

TIL Jennifer Rubin can write a column an hour

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That fair.org piece is from 2016

so it is, my bad!!

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xxpost but some of these are timeless

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Guys I thought this was an evidence-based discussion on the merits of the old man!

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Because it's about M4A this seems as good a place as any for a "this motherfucker right here"

THREAD: Let's examine all the possible ways this @ebruenig tweet represents #FakeNews -- and one of the sillier arguments for #SinglePayer I've heard in a long time... 1/ https://t.co/4giYHyH4g4

— Chris Jacobs (@chrisjacobsHC) January 30, 2020

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/anyone-but-bernie-sanders-biden-age-gap-millennials-gen-z.html

The Bernie Campaign Is Fortified by a Human Shield of Millennials

can we not use the president's terms ("fake news") kthnkbye

lol that Chris Jacobs got a bit of a roasting

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the use of "fake news" the least risible thing about that thread tbh

that is one hell of a ratio

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https://www.vox.com/2020/1/31/21113780/bernie-sanders-socialism-electability-primaries

Socialism is unpopular[citation needed], but America’s leading socialist isn’t.