Fiddler on the Roof

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Rewatched the 1971 film over the weekend for the first time in 10 years. Superb in every regard. Topol's Tevye is tragic, angry, helpless, complex. I haven't listened to the original cast recording with Zero Mostel or seen a stage production, but I imagine I'll get to both eventually. Is there film footage of Mostel?

There was no thread for Fiddler so here it is.

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 00:32 (one year ago) link

YouTube doesn't seem to have any clips of Zero.

There is a hit revival in NY currently, presented for the first time entirely in Yiddish, directed by Joel Grey.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 06:23 (one year ago) link

i've only ever saw a stage production of this when i was a teenager and have never revisited the soundtrack or anything and songs from it are still stuck in my head. maybe i'll watch the movie this week

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 12:08 (one year ago) link

yeah same, silby convinced me to screen now

k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 13:34 (one year ago) link

its a beaut

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 14:26 (one year ago) link

Haven't seen the film (just a few scenes on TV). Know a few of the big songs (they made us sing "Sunrise, Sunset" in Catholic grade school).

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 14:29 (one year ago) link

btw i can confirm i didn't hallucinate this: on The Jackie Gleason Show in 1970, Art Carney sang "If I Were a Rich Man" as Ed Norton, head and elbows poking out of the sewer.

https://www.paleycenter.org/collection/item/?q=ed&p=111&item=B:06221

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 14:33 (one year ago) link

The original Broadway cast included Bea Arthur (as the matchmaker), Bert Convy, and Austin Pendleton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler_on_the_Roof#Original_productions

I could easily have seen the 1976-77 revival with Zero if I'd been a smarter adolescent.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 14:39 (one year ago) link

Was in a community production of this, it's a fantastic show to be in. I played Hodel. Our Tevye was great, indelible in my mind. We had Cossack dancers and everything. Seen and heard whatever versions are out there.

William Wants a Doll (I M Losted), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 15:22 (one year ago) link

Ha, listening to the movie soundtrack now. But I remember playing "Herschel Bernardi sings 'Fiddler on the Roof'" in the house.

William Wants a Doll (I M Losted), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 15:26 (one year ago) link

...but Anthony Newley as Tevye is just WRONG!

William Wants a Doll (I M Losted), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 15:30 (one year ago) link

The movie has Barry Dennen aka Pontius Pilate.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:38 (one year ago) link

the Topol one is one of my favorite movies of all time. In college I got to see some of his Israeli films, he was just a dynamo

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:47 (one year ago) link

I've always avoided the film bcz movies of Broadway juggernauts seldom get it right, and I didn't think one directed by Norman Jewison (still living at 92) could do the trick.

Only have seen Topol in... For Your Eyes Only.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:55 (one year ago) link

hard to make dancing thrilling in a movie but the bottle dance and cossack dance in the film ver is pretty wonderfully done

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:11 (one year ago) link

I'd say the film succeeds in that it doesn't try to replicate the spatial coherence of a stage production. It indulges in some filmic "devices" e.g. teleporting Tevye's daughters into the background out of focus when he's soliloquizing, which you could argue is an overcorrection, but it stretches its legs, between town and field and road, and the changing seasons.

Compare to West Side Story 1961 dir Wise and Robbins which I really don't care for at all and as best I can recall appears to have been shot on a playground

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:19 (one year ago) link

Only have seen Topol in... For Your Eyes Only.

You've never seen "Flash Gordon"?

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:24 (one year ago) link

Most of WSS was shot on studio sets, just the opening sequence was shot on location I think.

And of course Jerome Robbins choreographed it on stage and screen, and he directed and choreographed the original Fiddler.

I have not seen FG, Tom.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:25 (one year ago) link

Compare to West Side Story 1961 dir Wise and Robbins which I really don't care for at all

― moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:19 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rip silby dead to me 3rd apr 2019

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:26 (one year ago) link

Sorry deems I’ve trashed it on here before so I should’ve been dead to you sooner

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:28 (one year ago) link

we were willing to turn a blind eye for expediency hitherto

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:30 (one year ago) link

if the only thing the movie did wrong was making "Somewhere" into a sex duet I would still hate it

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:30 (one year ago) link

WSS is the kind of stuffed-and-mounted film of a stage musical I was talking about

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:32 (one year ago) link

(Spielberg will fix all)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:33 (one year ago) link

hard to make dancing thrilling in a movie

Nope on that.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:52 (one year ago) link

I'll come clean that that was a canned remark I acquired from somewhere else, I don't really have a sense of how hard or not hard it is.

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:54 (one year ago) link

sure it's hard, on a Kelly-Donen level

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:58 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

NYers will get to see this at Film Forum next month

http://filmforum.org/film/tevya-yiddish-cinema-6-16

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 May 2019 14:50 (one year ago) link

Was just viewing the "Matchmaker" bit on Youtube last night...Odd how Jewison moved on to "Jesus Christ Superstar" (another fave of mine) directly after this one

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 6 May 2019 15:49 (one year ago) link

Are you sure he didn’t do Rollerball in between?

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 05:32 (one year ago) link

I have a Cannonball Adderley lp of the score recorded in the mid 60s somewhere.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 07:34 (one year ago) link

Rollerball was after both

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:37 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Watching w my daughter, first time in at least 25+ years...? Topol is so good.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:31 (one month ago) link

Norman Jewison (still living at 92)

... still living at 93!

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:36 (one month ago) link

Topol also still alive!

Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 April 2020 23:41 (one month ago) link

I wasn't sure about Topol tbh. Next year is a big one for Norman, his 10th wedding anniversary is coming up.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 23:45 (one month ago) link

... what am I talking about, it's this year, happy anniversary, Norman!

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 23:48 (one month ago) link


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