Just want to see if there are any closet flat earthers in here.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 June 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
The belief that the earth is flat and the belief that the earth is round are not, of necessity, mutually exclusive beliefs.
― Try Oscar Mayer and Hellmann's new Bolognnaise! (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 June 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
That’s what I’m talking about. Let’s start the great debate
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 June 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
The earth is a great coin, eternally flipping its way through the cosmos.
― Fiat Earther (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 June 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
heads!
― Evan, Friday, 7 June 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
if i may, i think the earth is 'phat' - particularly hospitable and temperate! 😊😜
― lumen (esby), Friday, 7 June 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
Can’t wait to poll all the other conspiracies
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-18ef82eacce03af826743707ff55f358.webp
― despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
lol esby
― One Eye Open, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02972/map_2972003d.jpg
― mark s, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
isaac asimov's essay on this subject is one of my favorites:
https://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
it's flat *and* it's hollow
― mark s, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
Friend's partner is apparently "keeping an open mind on the subject". I'm not very keen on this development, as it will inevitably lead on to the hard stuff like anti-vaxx. Maybe I should try and convince her it's triangular?
― Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
Bravo, who repeatedly claimed to be "crazy" throughout the exchange to diffuse Rogan's counter-arguments, suggested that people are more easily controlled if they believe they're standing on a "ball" as opposed to a flat surface."You're on a ball," he said. "You're nowhere. Don't try to go anywhere. Just stay there and work."
"You're on a ball," he said. "You're nowhere. Don't try to go anywhere. Just stay there and work."
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link
It's cool when the explications are as encephalitic as the belief itself.
― Fiat Earther (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
I love this planet and her curvy body. As a teenager, I was often teased by my friends for my attraction to celestial bodies on the thicker side, ones who were shorter and curvier, planets that the average (basic) bro might refer to as "chubby" or even "fat." Then, as I became a man and started to educate myself on issues such as geology and how the media marginalizes planets by portraying a very narrow and very specific standard of beauty (thin, tall, lean) I realized how many men have bought into that lie. For me, there is nothing sexier than this planet right here: thick equator, big mountains, cute little hillocks, etc. Her shape and size won't be the one featured on the cover of National Geographic but it's the one featured in my life and in my heart. There's nothing sexier to me than a world who is both curvy and confident; this gorgeous planet I married fills out every inch of her coasts and is still the most beautiful one in the room. Guys, rethink what society has told you that you should desire. A real planet is not an asteroid or a moonlet or a comet. She's real. She has beautiful stretch marks on her calderas and cute little dimples on her canyons. Planets, don't ever fool yourself by thinking you have to fit a certain mold to be loved and appreciated. There is a guy out there who is going to celebrate you for exactly who you are, someone who will love you like I love my Earth.
― Mack, who is blind (he has no eyes) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
xpost And when you have to use the word 'ball' because 'sphere' somehow never made it into your 75-word vocabulary.
― Fiat Earther (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
the earth is locally flat
― the late great, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
lol i think bravo's argument is actually quite subtle and clever -- it's basically the symbo;list geometrisation of an anti-globalist anti-new-world-order argument, that if there's just one system you run from it and being on the surface of a ball makes "globalisation" more likely, which it's bad
(an infinite flat surface could support an infinity of systems without requiring conflict resolution or absorption, but a globe eventually leads to one system absorbing all the others) (i don't know if this is true but it's not an intrinsically ridiculous claim)
the bad logic comes at the next step, that things that are bad must just have been invented to oppress us
― mark s, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
I like to play peek-a-boo with flat earthers by sailing around the world and taking advantage of their undeveloped notion of object permanence. It delights them every time.
― Fiat Earther (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
ugh sorry, "if there's just one system you CAN'T run from it"
― mark s, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
Waaaaaiit...do flat earthers believe that the earth is both flat and spatially infinite?!? Surely not.
― Fiat Earther (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
That would be too frickin' adorable for words.
more easily controlled if they believe they're standing on a "ball" as opposed to a flat surface
bravo doesn't, he thinks they're distinct things, that's the basis of his argument
― mark s, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
That actually makes sense mark. Fantasy epics like Lord of the Rings always presuppose a flat world—there are always unknown regions at the borders you could venture into.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
stripped of my many confusing typos it makes slightly more sense
― mark s, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
it's also connected to the old idea that the round earth hypothesis took away man's sense of himself at the center of existence, and that this had all kinds of subtle effects on culture
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 June 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
Every Copernican revolution has largely had good effects on human behavior. When noble white men were the apex of God's creation, they shat on the rest. Now they're living in a location that is in most cases not special, just a tendril of a branch of the tree of Earth bound evolution, where all races, species, and phyla are similarly adapted to their niche; on a habitable zone planet about a nondescript mid-aged G2 star, far from the center of the galaxy, or near the center of exciting things in the observable universe. Those that have accommodated themselves to this don't commit genocide nearly as frequently as their forebears did.
― despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Saturday, 8 June 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
Those that have accommodated themselves to this don't commit genocide nearly as frequently as their forebears did.
Needs citation.
I mean, individuals who have fully internalized these accepted scientific observations don't commit genocide, but individuals commit murder and only social groups commit genocide. afaics, humans still form tribal identities even in the face of astronomical or biological science. Most historically attested genocides occurred after Copernicus, and tbf genocide doesn't appear to have slackened all that much since Darwin. But it is a nice idea and I hope you are somehow correct in your conclusion and I just can't see it.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 8 June 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
half sphere earthers represent
https://i.imgur.com/c7tXUyG.jpg
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 8 June 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link
Genocide actually increased post-Darwin, Aimless otm
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 8 June 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link
if the earth is round, how come it doesn't bounce very high?
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 June 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
lol i think bravo's argument is actually quite subtle and clever -- it's basically the symbo;list geometrisation of an anti-globalist anti-new-world-order argument, that if there's just one system you run from it and being on the surface of a ball makes "globalisation" more likely, which it's bad(an infinite flat surface could support an infinity of systems without requiring conflict resolution or absorption, but a globe eventually leads to one system absorbing all the others) (i don't know if this is true but it's not an intrinsically ridiculous claim)the bad logic comes at the next step, that things that are bad must just have been invented to oppress us― mark s, Friday, June 7, 2019 3:27 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― mark s, Friday, June 7, 2019 3:27 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
So glad I clicked on this thread
― flappy bird, Saturday, 8 June 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link
i'm always glad when you click on threads flappy
― mark s, Saturday, 8 June 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link
flap-earther
― nashwan, Saturday, 8 June 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link
Flat, duh.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 June 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link
FAP Earth
― just another country (snoball), Saturday, 8 June 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
Flat-eartherism like most conspiracy theories is sublimated antisemitism
― don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Saturday, 8 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
as a bird i can tell you this- we live in a society
― flappy bird, Saturday, 8 June 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
http://i65.tinypic.com/23r7gug.gif
― lumen (esby), Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:19 (four years ago) link
it’s flat
― flappy bird, Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link
Flat as yo ass
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
It's flap.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 29 June 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
The earth is not "flat". It is not "round". It is roughly spherical with some minor pear-shaped abnormalities.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 29 June 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link
I think the accounts of the earth's non-roundness are exaggerated. "the distance from Earth's center to sea level is roughly 21 kilometers (13 miles) greater at the equator than at the poles". That is not much
― Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 04:06 (four years ago) link
Classically speaking, the sphere is a Euclidian solid, abstractly devoid of all imperfections. But I think we are in basic agreement.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 29 June 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link
The Earth is thicc
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 June 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link
lol
― Dan S, Saturday, 29 June 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link
The surface of the Earth is shaped like the outside of a taco shell.
― just another country (snoball), Saturday, 29 June 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
Die Erde ist rund
― 57mg/20floz, Saturday, 29 June 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
https://img.discogs.com/2evt-t_PpIuEfuJRdCrWOSfuebE=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1391726-1495970597-9387.jpeg.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 29 June 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
a torus is round. so is a discus. so is a hoop.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 29 June 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
the earth is a flat square (and we live on the inside)
― mark s, Saturday, 29 June 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
Like a Fudge Round
― Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 June 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
It's a Ringworld.
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 29 June 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 30 June 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
Well thank god that's sorted
― Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 June 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
We really ought to change the name of the Bonneville Salt Flats. It's misleading.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 30 June 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link
Buncha jokers voting for round, come on.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 June 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link
Thomas Friedman, ILX lurker
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link
the earth is thicc
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
Flatness is an area in which the Earth excels.
― jmm, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2019/06/29/5d17aa04268e3ecb4f8b458d.html
Flat Earth FC,now in the Spanish 4th division
― anvil, Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
Good luck to them in the next flat.
― nashwan, Sunday, 30 June 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CF_Fuenlabrada_Promesas_Madrid_2021
Flat Earth FC have rebranded as Club de Fútbol Fuenlabrada Promesas Madrid 2021
― anvil, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 07:15 (one year ago) link
I was going to ask if anyone was coming across flat earth stuff more, I feel like its been increasingly rapidly (from an admittedly tiny position), but in Madrid at least it seems to have hit something of a stumbling block
― anvil, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 07:18 (one year ago) link
round imo
― Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link
too early to tell
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link
we must first define our terms, what is "flat" and "round" and "earth" in this context
― bloompsadaisy (cat), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/323/410/4e3.jpg
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
earth is round, but space is flat
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
stop bodyshaming Earth
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
hi j.lu, hi zach, hi Neanderthal! 🌸
― bloompsadaisy (cat), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
It's a D12
― doja catharsis (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
One thing that’s nice about the flat earth is I can wave at cat, and no matter how far away we are, we can clearly see each other as long as one of us is on a ladder!
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 18:00 (one year ago) link
who says we're even really on earth anyway? the nerdy pinko eggheads up in their ivied ivory towers? pshaw!
― bloompsadaisy (cat), Thursday, 13 April 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
this 'ringwoodite' stuff is fascinating, found in some meteorites and 400 miles into the earth's crust and at extreme temperature and pressure it is porous and apparently holds a vast underground ocean. Not in liquid nor gas form, apparently at such depths the water molecules split. Fuck knows this is very confusing.
― calzino, Thursday, 13 April 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
Rudy Rucker eventually adjusted his dope The Hollow Earth to fit with the sequel, later they were published in this one vol.
"The Hollow Earth" is a classic work of American steampunk. In 1836, our seventeen-year-old narrator Mason Reynolds leaves his father's Virginia farm with the black Otha. He befriends the dissolute Edgar Allan Poe, and they fall through a thousand-mile-deep hole in the ice of Antarctica. Within the Hollow Earth, Mason woos and wins Seela, who lives upon a giant flower. At the earth’s the core he finds a sky-surfing tribe known as the black gods—and a cluster of giant, god-like sea cucumbers known as woomo. Mason, Seela, and Poe make their way out through the crust and back to Earth. But due to their time in the strong light of the woomo, their skins are black. And then they encounter Poe’s double... "Return to the Hollow Earth" is Rucker’s second steampunk novel featuring Mason Reynolds. In 1850, Mason and his wife Seela embark upon a perilous trip around Cape Horn to San Francisco. Their ship sinks, but they're saved by a tentacled, flying nautilus—who carries them to meet Edgar Allan Poe. Poe leads them on a return voyage to the Hollow Earth, passing through the throat of a thousand-mile-deep maelstrom at the North Pole. Within the Hollow Earth, they learn that the god-like woomo sea cucumbers mean to send them them on a epic mission across space and time. The initial stage of this mission brings them to modern-day Santa Cruz, California. This 2021 edition supersedes all previous versions of "The Hollow Earth" and "Return to the Hollow Earth."
― dow, Thursday, 13 April 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
Picked up a book about the history of th idea of the Hollow Earth yesterday. Not sure how good it is but seemed interesting to have the various forms in one place.
― Stevo, Thursday, 13 April 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link