Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR 4? Verily?

The tradition continues. Anyway, Waititi's back to direct so bring on more technicolor space madness:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/taika-waititi-direct-thor-4-1224464

They should call this one Thor ZOSO.

Hahah

It hadn't really occurred to me but after jumping around a bit with the initial solo Avengers movie sequels, they've done a pretty decent job of keeping a single director at the helm of each of these sub-franchises. Seems like a solid strategy.

At this point, Marvel's loooooooong-delayed phase four announcement (which will reportedly drop at SDCC in, what, a week or so) is gonna be kinda anticlimactic aside from anything they might have cooking with the Fox acquisitions. We already have unofficial-but-mostly-pretty-official news on at least a half dozen movies in various stages of development.

sure cant wait to see how thor forgets hes thor until someone reminds him hes thor this time!

*sarcastic but also not

wonder if the guardians will be involved--i guess this is technically supposed to come out after guardians 3?

Don't care about Marvel movies but I'm excited any new Taika movie, so this is great news.

in retrospect, this thread title may be the only thing of value i've ever contributed to ILX

It is a legend now.

as long as this is secretly a korg and miek movie with thor as sidekick, i’m in

Next up for Waititi is Jojo Rabbit, a unique Nazi-era satire he directed for Fox Searchlight, which opens Oct. 18. Scarlett Johansson stars in the picture alongside Waititi, who portrays a boy's imaginary version of Adolf Hitler.

last one is probably the only MCU movie I really liked, so cautiously optimistic for Beta Ray Bill/Frog of Thunder

You're probably on the right track, I'd already read rumors of Beta Ray Bill coming to the MCU.

psyched for a beta ray bill character poster which reads ‘WHY THE LONG FACE’

i uhhhh

waht
― A man offers an inverted bottle of water to the Techno Viking. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, July 16, 2019

yeah...

i mean on the one hand taika waititi feature project...
but on the other hand "a unique nazi-era satire"...
but on the other hand TO BE OR NOT TO BE worked pretty well?
but but but...

last one is probably the only MCU movie I really liked, so cautiously optimistic for Beta Ray Bill/Frog of Thunder

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, July 16, 2019

i don't even dare to hope

yeah...

i mean on the one hand taika waititi feature project...
but on the other hand "a unique nazi-era satire"...
but on the other hand TO BE OR NOT TO BE worked pretty well?
but but but...

Four Words: Scarlett Johansson Is... HITLER!

scadolf johitler obv

still if ever there was a time where there was nothing potentially problematic about releasing a quirky nazi comedy, it’s 2019

Don't be stupid, be a smarty

Life (On Acid) Is Beautiful

also is ScarJo managing her career based on an escalating series of dares?

I feel like Watiti would've been well-advised to refrain from releasing details about his upcoming project unless he was willing to release a whooooole lotta additional details about his upcoming project.

'It's a fun movie, about Hitler. Just trust me, yer gonna love it!'

there are a bunch of fun movies about Hitler

triumph of the will, for example

hitler’s imdb page has an impressive 1066 credits btw, with three more upcoming

To Be Or Not To Be, The Producers, Inglorious Basterds, a bunch of Bobby Watson movies, They Saved Hitler's Brain, The Great Dictator

Look Who's Back, Which Way to the Front?

Taika as Hitler can't lose imo

There's nothing I want quite as much at this historical moment as a whimsical take on those goofball Nazis!

Nazis hate being laughed at, so I agree

C'mon, I trust him to point satire in the right direction.

From the wiki:
Lonely German boy Jojo "Rabbit" Betzler (Roman Griffin Davis) has his world view turned upside down when he discovers that his single mother Rosie (Scarlett Johansson) is hiding a young Jewish girl (Thomasin McKenzie) in their attic. Aided only by his idiotic imaginary friend, Adolf Hitler (Taika Waititi), Jojo must confront his blind nationalism.

In March 2018, it was revealed that Taika Waititi would not only direct but also co-star in the film as an imaginary Adolf Hitler. Speaking of the context of the role, Waititi said "It's my version of... a lonely boy's best version of his hero, which is really his dad", referencing the fact that in the film, the protagonist, a 10-year-old boy, is desperate to join Hitler's ranks during World War II. Later that month, Scarlett Johansson joined the cast to portray the mother of the lead child, who is secretly anti-Nazi. In April 2018, Sam Rockwell joined the cast to portray "a Nazi captain who runs a Hitler Youth camp". In May 2018, Rebel Wilson joined the cast to portray "a brutish instructor in the Hitler Youth Camp the young man has just been recruited to attend". Filming was also set to begin in Prague shortly thereafter. Later that month, newcomer Roman Griffin joined the cast to star as Johansson's son while Thomasin McKenzie was cast as the Jewish girl whom Johansson hides in her home.

I do too... just for me personally it feels really close to the bone right now.

i think we should tell taika and he'll let all the other directors know, be grand

I feel like Watiti would've been well-advised to refrain from releasing details about his upcoming project unless he was willing to release a whooooole lotta additional details about his upcoming project.

You've had eighteen months since he released the details to read the book, which came out ten years before that. What are your specific remaining questions?

(that he's been avoiding through the cowardly tactics of producing a movie, directing a movie, editing a movie, acting in other people's movies, and acting in multiple TV shows in three countries, instead of posting on ILX...)

As a loose guideline, if it's a post whose construction leans more toward quippery than reasoned argument, it's not a post which requires much in the way of legit fact-checking, cuz.

aw sic is feeling left out again

we all make dozens of pointless posts here every day obv but I guess if that was a joke where the words in it weren't relevant to the meaning, then idgi

it was a run of lighthearted reproaches that a director like waititi shouldnt be making a movie that has a hitler character

sic otm and lads

srsly now

ye have to pull out of it. its killin ye and also the board.

thats right. the kickback has started on the thor 4 thread.

ftr I saw Life Is Beautiful in the theater and loved it

haha I never thought it was that bad frankly

I never thought it was that bad, either, the one time I saw it.

So is Thor 4 going to be Asgardians of the Galaxy or what

Life is Beautiful is good, and more threads should involve into appreciation threads for Life is Beautiful

Thor 3 was also good, btw. In case no one knew

everyone knows thor 3 is good. It's 2 that was kind of not good. Or at least I don't remember anything about it.

It occurred to me recently that they've ruthlessly dispatched a fairly sizable percentage of Thor's supporting cast, so it's hard to know where they might be going next. I sorta wonder if after a successful decade of films loosely adapting and remixing previous comics storylines they won't start pushing into more original territory. A Beta Ray encounter in space seems like kind of a no-brainer, but from there who even knows.

They should call this one Thor ZOSO.

Turns out it's called Thor: Love and Thunder...and now we know why no specific Hemsworth confirmation:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/natalie-portman-will-be-taking-up-the-hammer-as-the-mig-1836568483

Natalie Portman directed by Taika Waititi seems like it could be... interesting.

This is awesome. They’re finally getting around to the good stuff!

lol at portman coming back after they had to go to absurd lengths to cut around her absence in endgame

given how much she apparently hated being in the dark world after patty jenkins was fired i wonder what the negotiations were like for this one

They probably showed her a great script (considering the strength of the source material)

wld be surprised if they're not letting Taika write this one

I’m guessing she also saw Ragnarok and was like “this is more like something I would want to do”

they said Hemsworth was coming back, along with Tessa Thompson, or at least, I've read that.

Considering they were all on stage together, yes.

has Portman ever done comedy? She doesn't seem like a fit with Waititi's style

Jane Foster as Thor is a pretty serious character... if the storyline follows the comics at all, she won’t have to do much yukking it up (that can happen around her).

Portman was in a movie parody of epic fantasy some years ago, I forget what it's called, but it was awful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Highness

Oh yeah, it was this one. Possibly the worst movie she's ever been in, and considering she was in Episodes I-III, that's quite a feat.

I think her SNL appearances show she can handle comedy for at least brief appearances, but I don't think she's going to have to do the comedy lifting in this one.

To think I was delighted that Waititi had written Portman's character out of the third one altogether. I find her almost poisonously unwatchable.

Yeah, she's a really unappealing onscreen presence.

well steady on now

Jesus you guys

What's wrong with disliking an actor? Her fun-police vibe is antithetical to the things I enjoyed in Ragnarok.

Natalie Portman is good

oh shes a bad actress as far as a marvel type gig goes but id never want to not look at her is all

and (unnecessarily) to state for the record I have zero problems with gender balance and equity in heroic roles - I think Larson did a great job in the otherwise-lacking Cpt Marvel, Zendaya deserves much more screen time in the Spider-Man ones, and I'd be excited and intrigued if any other female actor picked up the hammer.

Leaving this here...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/916ZfISm8XL._SY445_.jpg

has Portman ever done comedy? She doesn't seem like a fit with Waititi's style

How much comedy had Chris Hemsworth done before his first film with Waititi?

This movie is going to come out in two years and be ridiculously successful, colorful (seriously, remember how Ragnarok actually LOOKED?) and hilarious and all this bizarre doubting will seem extremely WTF.

Like with any serious dramatic actor, I think if Portman has a supportive cast & a director she trusts she could absolutely rise to the occasion comedy-wise. Waititi directing & Thomson & Hemsworth on board - all signs point to YES. i can’t wait for this.

Not having seen Hemsworth play anyone other than Thor, I didn't really have much of an opinion of his range (or lack of it) prior to Ragnarok

I've seen Portman in a lot of films. She's a stiff

/has Portman ever done comedy? She doesn't seem like a fit with Waititi's style/

How much comedy had Chris Hemsworth done before his first film with Waititi?

He was also great in Ghostbusters.

oh yeah that's right. he's actually the best thing in ghostbusters, with the best line about his dog named Mike Hat

Well, its full name is Michael Hat.

He was also great in Ghostbusters.

As an actress, Natalie Portman seems like a very nice person who enjoys what she does and has a lot of fun doing it.

her rap things for Lonely Island are still fucking hilarious

she strikes me as a very nice lady, which as my wife knows, is code for "I am deeply in love with this unattainable celebrity"

Her “Between Two Ferns” appearance alone should indicate to you dorks that she is very adept at poker-faced, straight-man comedy.

Anyway, you can always watch Ragnarok again if you don’t want to see this new one. It will presumably be a different movie with a different tone, featuring a determined Jane Foster fighting to overcome great odds, for which Portman is well suited.

official Downfall meme:

pic.twitter.com/IoYadN7Ctr

— Jojo Rabbit (@jojorabbitmovie) July 26, 2019

That's funny.

Stoked!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgB1wUcmbbw

Yeah this looks great

Parallel thread, activate! Enjoyed this a lot, haven't read any reviews but I did see that it's got a lower review average than many of these movies, to which I can only ask, why? Just rewatched the latest Doctor strange, which one of my kids wanted to see, and this is so much better than that. Good to have a bad guy with at least minimally complex motives, Even if the bad guy in this case was essentially Voldemort.

I really didn't dig it, and I'm not entirely sure why? I think you could probably build two or three really good films out of the bits of it, but they didn't really gel together. And I'm not usually averse to tonal shifts!

Partly this was Bale - terrible when he's serious and more terrible when he's not (the bit? in the cage? with the snake?)

Partly this was too much Taika Waititi in multiple dimensions - there's another screenwriter involved but I'm guessing that they didn't get much of a chance to rewrite Korg, and Korg is all over the film, offering wry commentary and flattening any attempts to get a vibe going.

Also Waititi can't leave a joke alone - the first few times Stormbringer drifted jealously into frame were good, but it brought the film screeching to a halt at least once more after that - and then in the finale, where it might've been of some relevance, Thor just hacks at a few arms.

And again the actors joke is rolled out (because it's funny), and then again at a time of great trauma (when it's not). And it hits slightly differently from the original (that it's a sign of the vanity of Loki-as-Odin) that it's now New Asgard as gaudy tourist trap.

I liked Tessa Thompson a lot as Valkryie in Ragnarok - now she's here but not here, most are exposition and reaction, or wry exposition or wry reaction.

The Paradise Omnipotence City section is weird because one the one hand it's entirely unnecessary to the film, but on the other it's one of the few times that they're not shuttling from point A to point B and it's actually really fun in a way that a lot of the rest of the film isn't? Waititi still has a great eye for bright and varied spectacle.

The death for me was when Thor was giving his third pompous and useless speech of the film, to the kids in the cage, and I realised he was resembling no-one so much as Boris Johnson.

There is exactly as much Guardians of the Galaxy as there should be (which means I saw most of it in the trailers) and far too little Kat Dennings.

*most of her lines

The comparison I made on the Marvel thread is to Terry Gilliam's "Baron Munchausen." Maybe not entirely successful, but pretty weird and enjoyable on its own terms.

I saw a quote from Taika Waititi in the last week, that he was getting pissy that lots of people are discovering Kate Bush through Stranger Things when that's the only song they know, and he was going to have a bunch of less well-known songs by her on the soundtrack until this (which is, like, a month ago?) and so I was amused to see that the soundtrack is actually the three biggest hits by struggling indie rock band Guns'n'Roses.

A bunch of up and coming young kids from Los Angeles

lol he was going to have a "bunch" of Kate Bush songs in the movie? Really? More than one? And deep cuts? I saw the quote, and sure, I can imagine him slipping in "This Woman's Work," but that's not exactly a deep cut, especially in movies.

Thor cracking skulls to "Suspended in Gaffa"

Yeah, it was from the NME interview:

Christian Bale said you were supposed to have a Kate Bush dance scene in Love and Thunder?

Before Stranger Things! Yeah, there were a bunch of Kate Bush songs I wanted to have in there. We were gonna have ‘This Woman’s Work’, which was gonna be great for <a scene with> Natalie Portman’s character.

https://www.nme.com/features/film-interviews/taika-waititi-interview-thor-kate-bush-stranger-things-3264183

I enjoyed this a lot, it was very silly & fun but had kind of a nice serious message too?

Overall vibe was “ballpoint pen cartoons about comics & gods & metal band logos that you scribble in your workbook in maths class” but also lots of feels too. I like Taika’s vibe in general & the light touch w comedy & music & visual fun is what i needed

LOVED the kids, loved that they got to fight, loved Mjolnir with a pretty face on it & sparkly streamers

Thought Bale was excellent, and Rusty was a hoot in his little tunic skirt & ridic Greek accent i died

The song over the credits was great & worth the wait & very fitting lol

I would like to add that Portman looked hot af as Mighty Thor btw

I kinda just want to see the Portman bits (uh, I don't mean that like it sounds, lol)