the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

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a safe space to wonder aloud where ghislaine maxwell is

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Epstein got whacked 53
Epstein straight up killed himself without assistance 31
Epstein was slipped the means to commit suicide 29
(other) 10


Simon H., Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:05 (eleven months ago) link

Let's roll

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:06 (eleven months ago) link

To quote Antonin Artaud, he was suicided by society, just like Van Gogh.

pomenitul, Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:07 (eleven months ago) link

Mood. pic.twitter.com/9rSn0Kn1KP

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) August 10, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:09 (eleven months ago) link

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:15 (eleven months ago) link

Anyway, I voted for 'other': he's safe and sound, tucked away in a paradisiacal underground mansion, at a stone's throw from the earth's molten core.

pomenitul, Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:16 (eleven months ago) link

No 12 ft lizard option - no credibility

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:17 (eleven months ago) link

Do I legitimately think he was whacked? Not really, I feel like people powerful enough to kill someone in federal custody could have made it look like a stroke or heart attack or something.

Do I think he definitely could have been whacked? Absolutely. Is it worth playing with to further highlight that he was bros with 50% of the last 4 Presidents and a ton of rich assholes. Also absolutely.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:19 (eleven months ago) link

If he’d been allowed to live, he might have revealed that Bill Clinton may have committed sexual misconduct, which would have been truly damaging to the Clinton legacy.

I'm not one of those The Clintons Did It ppl but I hope we can all understand that what's alleged to have taken place on Epstein's place and elsewhere goes well beyond what Bill's been previously accused of

Simon H., Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:22 (eleven months ago) link

I think it's likely there was some intervention in his death.

Not only Clinton would've potentially been implicated in child trafficking,sex slavery and rape but also Dershowitz,Ehud Barak, Prince Andrew, and various influential figures in finance,business etc.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

You know those murder mysteries where, as you read the first 40 pages, you discover that the corpse was at first thought to have committed suicide, but the circumstances arouse the suspicion of the canny detective (who is the hero of the book) and, upon investigation, the hero quickly finds at least a dozen people who had strong motives to murder the victim and all of them express open delight or relief in the victim's death? Yeah, this is kinda like that, am I right?

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:38 (eleven months ago) link

Epstein and Pac, jammin’ in Samoa.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:40 (eleven months ago) link

one for the "grain of salt" files

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

Simon H., Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:41 (eleven months ago) link

^ Premise of that article is that Epstein would not have been able to hang himself, stab himself, or bludgeon himself in that unit. It says nothing about, oh, let's say an overdose of fentanyl obtained from a guard for a small cash consideration.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:59 (eleven months ago) link

Voted "other" — dude absolutely faked his suicide and was whisked to freedom.

Been a slow education for (bernard snowy), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:12 (eleven months ago) link

Lol dudez

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:15 (eleven months ago) link

He hanged himself xp

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:16 (eleven months ago) link

as a supporter of the ‘what if his head just... did that’ explanation of jfk’s death, i believe we should give serious credence to the thought that epstein’s neck just... did that

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:22 (eleven months ago) link

People have spontaneous neck implosions every year, they’re just not widely reported

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:25 (eleven months ago) link

Of course...

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead

I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

RT if you’re not Surprised#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily pic.twitter.com/Y9tGAWaAxX

— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) August 10, 2019

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:33 (eleven months ago) link

^^Retweeted by Yam.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:33 (eleven months ago) link

I guess he's....not surprised

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:34 (eleven months ago) link

He also retweeted a post about Clinton's trips to the island.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:36 (eleven months ago) link

I said this on the main politics thread, but his frothing desire to see the Clintons get theirs by any means possible, even if it means spotlighting a case he's been named in repeatedly, really highlights just how special his brain is

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:37 (eleven months ago) link

went with "(other)" because i feel like automatic "no way, no conspiracy, nothing to see here folks, move on pls!" talk is just as irresponsible, in its way, as "CLINTON BODY COUNT STRIKES AGAIN" shit.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:44 (eleven months ago) link

i think epstein committed suicide and the fact that he wasn't being adequately monitored was due to gross negligence and not conspiracy

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:47 (eleven months ago) link

^^^^

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:50 (eleven months ago) link

if it were just about anyone else I'd definitely agree with you

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:51 (eleven months ago) link

either killed or "other"

ciderpress, Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:53 (eleven months ago) link

I'm somewhere between 'gross negligence' and 'allowed/encouraged' to do it '

gbx, Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:54 (eleven months ago) link

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:57 (eleven months ago) link

Negligence or guards just not giving a fuck. As I said on the other thread, some of the most infamous murderers in UK history, who you would expect would be watched extra carefully, have hung themselves in their cells.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:57 (eleven months ago) link

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

the latter is the case apparently, why he was taken off is an open question

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:59 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah - he was on suicide watch w/accompanying psychiatric interviews & whatnot for a while, they decided he wasn’t suicidal, and six days later he killed himself. Ppl framing it like “they conveniently gave him the means to kill himself” like he’s Frank Pentangeli from The Godfather I guess can’t conceive of a committed suicidal person biding their time, keeping up appearances, and not raising any red flags until they’re sure they can get away with it.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:11 (eleven months ago) link

It’s an “open question” only as much as you believe that mental health diagnosis and treatment in our nations esteemed prison system is foolproof, which if you do, that must be a nice way to live.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:14 (eleven months ago) link

I...do not think that. I just think the particular circumstances (both how high-profile the case is and how suicide-proofed the facility is meant to be, still waiting for a contradictory take on the MCC) are sus

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:16 (eleven months ago) link

"Don't worry about anything, Jeffrey Epstein."
"Thanks, Alan--thanks."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89DzP8NGM4

clemenza, Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:18 (eleven months ago) link

conspiracy doesn't apply here

it's thunderingly obvious what essentially happened

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:20 (eleven months ago) link

Hillary used her ninja training to sneak into his cell and defeat him?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:23 (eleven months ago) link

i'm sure at a minimum JE was advised that "a Whitey Bulger" awaited him

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:24 (eleven months ago) link

Whitey Bulger lasted a lot longer.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:26 (eleven months ago) link

u guys do recall that Trump and the Clintons were pals for a couple decades, right?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 August 2019 02:33 (eleven months ago) link

Welp

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 August 2019 03:23 (eleven months ago) link

assuming that d’angelo barksdale clip will get some mileage

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 11 August 2019 03:57 (eleven months ago) link

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ?

I notice posts that repeatedly say Epstein was on suicide watch and others that repeatedly say he was taken off suicide watch. That covers all the bases, I guess.

yeah, it's hard to watch. hasn't it been confirmed that he was recently taken off of suicide watch? i for one cannot believe trump wouldn't factcheck the people he retweets

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:18 (eleven months ago) link

lol

have you seen photos of the body? it’s obviously not him. my guess is, epstein’s on a private plane to somewhere in the middle east getting prepped for plastic surgery right now #EpsteinBodyDouble

— Foster The People (@fosterthepeople) August 11, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:23 (eleven months ago) link

Pumped Up Epps

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:29 (eleven months ago) link

I knew this storyline felt like a retread

Remember when the Panama Papers revealed global level finance crimes and the only thing that happened was that the journalist who released them got killed?

— Joe Biden retire, bitch (@YourFriendCrud) August 10, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 06:09 (eleven months ago) link

who even remembers at this point that the paradise papers followed that, to even less impact

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 11 August 2019 07:25 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, he's the same guy that filed lawsuits against bars and clubs that have "Ladies Nights."

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:55 (two weeks ago) link

Still the most incredible response to this.

This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice. It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may - whether on Republicans or Democrats. #WeSaidEnough #MeToo https://t.co/2mvskwQwW1

— Christine Pelosi (@sfpelosi) July 7, 2019

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 23:05 (two weeks ago) link

She didn’t mention which of her faves had Epstein killed, unfortunately.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 23:07 (two weeks ago) link

"faves"

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 20 July 2020 23:30 (two weeks ago) link

Didn’t even throw in “problematic”

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 23:40 (two weeks ago) link

be sure to like and subscribe for more deets on my faves

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 23:40 (two weeks ago) link

This is very weird.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/05/male-military-draft-elizabeth-kyle-labell-lawsuit-constitutional-selective-service/3066858002/

Den Hollander argued a case in front of Salas relating to gender discrimination in military draft laws, and was partly successful.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/07/who-killed-red-pill-lawyer-marc-angelucci-and-why/

Two weeks ago, Marc Angelluci, another right-wing ‘mens’ rights’ activist lawyer also involved in a case about overturning single-sex military draft laws was shot dead by someone pretending to be a delivery driver.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 07:11 (two weeks ago) link

what the hell

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 07:22 (two weeks ago) link

Whoa. That Spectator link is a wild ride. I didn't see the "woke-free zone" header before I started reading.


Screeching feminists relentlessly whinge that men’s right’s activists are lazy, ineffectual and useless.

Yet, Angelucci was such an effectual, productive, constructive and incredible activist for equality, someone decided his life needed to be ended.

peace, man, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 11:00 (two weeks ago) link

"a wild ride" not the phrase I was looking for there. "bullshit and do not give it clicks" is more like it. Heres a link to CBS with the same information:

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/07/20/mens-rights-attorney-marc-angelucci-killed-san-bernardino-new-jersey-shooting-judge-esther-salas/

peace, man, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 11:02 (two weeks ago) link

Here’s my question. Who is answering the door for deliveries under lockdown? 100% of our stuff is dropped off contactless.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:37 (two weeks ago) link

me! i mean i come to the main door bcz i live in a block of flats and they have already placed it on the ground (and sometimes photographed as proof of delivery)

this door is like two feet from the main street, if i don't take possession p quickly a passerby may well do so

mark s, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:58 (two weeks ago) link

so if i am gunned down plz lknow i never flew to little st james or caused anyone else to be so flown

mark s, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:59 (two weeks ago) link

JUST IN: Pres. Trump on Ghislaine Maxwell, longtime companion of infamous sex offender Jeffrey Epstein: "I just wish her well, frankly."

Maxwell pleaded not guilty last week to federal sex trafficking charges. https://t.co/YEerOPitZL pic.twitter.com/uqsRKrMteY

— ABC News (@ABC) July 21, 2020

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:28 (two weeks ago) link

Here’s my question. Who is answering the door for deliveries under lockdown? 100% of our stuff is dropped off contactless.

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:37 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

they're still knocking my door they're just walking away by the time I answer it

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:29 (two weeks ago) link

Same here. Some of them even insist on handing it to me in person, which is… not ideal, but I'd rather not be a dick about it.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:31 (two weeks ago) link

Here’s my question. Who is answering the door for deliveries under lockdown? 100% of our stuff is dropped off contactless.

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto)

I'm answering the door for every delivery

Dan S, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:32 (two weeks ago) link

the one time amazon (I won a gift certificate at work) delivered something and didn't knock it got stolen lol

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:33 (two weeks ago) link

by one of my neighbours

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:33 (two weeks ago) link

I don't mind the 3-second contact being handed a package by UPS

Dan S, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:34 (two weeks ago) link

Up to five seconds is fine, there's even a rule that states as much iirc.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:36 (two weeks ago) link

Wasnt there a Law and order ep where someone gunned down a lawyer/judge pretendig to be a FedEx guy?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:37 (two weeks ago) link

Up to five seconds is fine, there's even a rule that states as much iirc.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, July 21, 2020

lol

Dan S, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:42 (two weeks ago) link

*sick guitar riff*

MORE: The deposition of Virginia Guiffre that includes allegations against Alan Dershowitz have been ordered unsealed by a federal judge today.

— julie k. brown (@jkbjournalist) July 23, 2020

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

I am sorry to share that "ghislaine maxwell, anti-trump girlboss" is in fact a narrative in some especially deranged corners of lib twitter

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:00 (one week ago) link

Do you hate follow obscure corners of lib Twitter?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:14 (one week ago) link

the knowledge was shared with me on a group chat and now it is killing me slowly

but let's not let this obscure the fact that we might actually get some substantive disclosures soon.....maybe

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

That would be nice, although I'm still expecting anyone in a position to reveal anything to suddenly drop dead.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:22 (one week ago) link

🤢

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:55 (one week ago) link

...dersh

lag∞n, Friday, 31 July 2020 02:55 (one week ago) link

what's the latest?

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:00 (one week ago) link

Whole lotta stuff in there including dirt on Dersh, Prince Andrew, Clinton, Marvin Minsky (!). General negligence and shady dealings by the FBI. But interestingly not seeing anything about Trump so far.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:06 (one week ago) link

I kinda suspect he saw Epatein, who was known for being wealthy and charismatic, as competition and didn't like fighting for attention in that orbit. his vanity might have, uh, trumped his lechery.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:08 (one week ago) link

https://t.co/4mH2k3cwH5 pic.twitter.com/5MXXjHid4e

— John Cook (@johnjcook) July 31, 2020

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:09 (one week ago) link

Lots of people are going through these docs. This is a pretty good thread, but I'm sure there will be more.

The Ghislaine Maxwell (Epstein) documents have been unsealed.

Will be posting excerpts here -

Starting with allegations of minor being trafficked to Maxwell, Prince Andrew, and Alan Dershowitz (as prev. alleged).

Thread. pic.twitter.com/jELX0qRDcc

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) July 31, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:12 (one week ago) link

so far nothing major not already hinted at or reasonably speculated, I don't think

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:14 (one week ago) link

WHOA. pic.twitter.com/EiWez0ddOc

— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) July 31, 2020

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:16 (one week ago) link

I'll be glad if this means the demise of the dersh but...idk, man, he's like 80 and seems pretty unlikely to hit bottom before he croaks. and everyone already knows he's the fuckin worst. I hope a lot more heads will roll.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 12:35 (one week ago) link

he has not been tweeting

lag∞n, Friday, 31 July 2020 13:31 (one week ago) link

Are the other co-conspirator women (Nadia Marcinkova, etc) also being investigated or does anyone know? (her story is fucking weird as is the 'aviation marketing' company she's ostensibly CEO of)

akm, Friday, 31 July 2020 21:03 (one week ago) link

So no details about the mechanics or structure of the blackmail operation?

treeship., Friday, 31 July 2020 21:14 (one week ago) link

What’s complicated about blackmail

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:15 (one week ago) link

who was behind it, who was targeted, what the aim was — just investing in the phony hedge fund or something more — etc

I have questions, silby

treeship., Friday, 31 July 2020 21:18 (one week ago) link

i think the only stuff that's in these documents is basically...the stuff everyone already basically knew

akm, Friday, 31 July 2020 21:53 (one week ago) link

yup

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 22:00 (one week ago) link

limited hang

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 22:00 (one week ago) link

Absolutely obscene opening paragraph. https://t.co/gCBFew7wec pic.twitter.com/GAdsC3D5he

— Huw Lemmey (@huwlemmey) July 31, 2020

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:16 (one week ago) link

It’s funny how that’s the country’s least embarrassing newspaper

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:28 (one week ago) link

guardians lawyers probably wouldnt let them print anything that wasnt already clearly stated in the court papers

micah, Saturday, 1 August 2020 01:37 (six days ago) link


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