Holiday Movies (and more?) POLL, Preliminary Question -- What To Include?

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As discussed on Christmas Movies - S/D I'm hosting a ballot poll for holiday entertainments this year, but there's some disagreement on what to include and what to exclude. Should holiday specials be allowed? Should movies that are just set during the holidays be included? I'll let the majority rule here on the following options:

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Holiday-themed movies + movies set during holidays 8
Holiday-themed movies + holiday TV specials 6
Holiday-themed movies + movies set during holidays + holiday TV specials 5
Holiday-themed movies + holiday TV specials + movies & regular-season TV eps set during holidays 4
Explicitly holiday-themed movies only 3
Fuck it, any visual-based media counts 3


Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

voted!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

I voted holiday themed movies plus tv specials

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

what is the difference between "holiday-themed movies" and "movies set during holidays"?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

ooh this means i could vote for home for the holidays i love that movie

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Whether Die Hard should count, basically

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

Some people might want to vote for it’s a wonderful life

YouGov to see it (wins), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

I'm all for holiday-themed movies, movies set during the holidays (within reason) and holiday TV specials. Nothing that doesn't stand on its own (so episodes of TV shows are out).

Basically, most of the things listed here are eligible: https://letterboxd.com/juliec/list/neverending-christmas-movie-list/

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

I guess with "holiday-themed movie," I meant a movie where Christmas plays a strong if not key role in the story. Die Hard and It's a Wonderful Life would both count in that regard.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

ooh this means i could vote for home for the holidays i love that movie

Agreed. The Thanksgiving movies (all 3 of them) would count too.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

hm, shall I vote for Summer Holiday or Holiday on the Buses?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

In deference to Mary Tyler Moore, I voted for the second-last option (thus circumventing the possibility of any paintings placing).

clemenza, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

I thought it was too open to include Christmas-themed TV specials, let alone Christmas-set regular episodes of TV shows. To broaden it further to have anything to do with any kind of holiday is bonkers mission creep. If ppl want to exclude Die Hard, that’s an argument. But to start from a position that mixes in Eurotrip and National Lampoon’s Vacation and Long Weekend and Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot and the final episode of The Young Ones makes for incomprehensible unfocused ballots.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

Voted "Holiday-themed movies + movies set during holidays" because a poll like this without the collected works of Shane Black is meaningless.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

Incomprehensible unfocused ballots are fine I think - my position with polls tends to be that these things come out in the wash and the worst that can happen is that the final countdown has one or two surprising things in it

YouGov to see it (wins), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

sic, I think this is some kind of American understanding of the word "Holiday" and was making an unnecessarily confusing joke about this.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

I was just going off the thread title and all the poll options and Eric's post

"ooh this means i could vote for home for the holidays i love that movie"

Agreed. The Thanksgiving movies (all 3 of them) would count too.

although I had missed Eric's previous post,

I guess with "holiday-themed movie," I meant a movie where Christmas plays a strong if not key role in the story. Die Hard and It's a Wonderful Life would both count in that regard.

which in context does not add clarity

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

In America, Thanksgiving more or less kicks off the Christmas season, and families generally do the same thing at both. Eat big meals, get drunk and yell at each other. The Christmas gifts more or less make up for what you shouted at your great uncle a month prior.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

Also, we are currently engaged in a decades-long war on Christmas.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

:)

Dan S, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

you can go on a holiday any time of the year

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

The war on Christmas was won in 2014, doncha know?

https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w600_and_h900_bestv2/6MLSD1OYGDWkCk05m7vA1xCrfKr.jpg

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

No fair giving away #1 right off the bat.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

Gotta count Goodfellas--very festive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVvvkDSXj_I

clemenza, Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

i'm in favour of whichever option excludes "Die Hard" ahahahaha so clever

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

yeah, kiss kiss bang bang or gtfo

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

Some people might want to vote for it’s a wonderful life

Not much of this film is set during the holidays

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

black christmas is a holiday horror movie, sole survivor is a horror movie that happens to be set in los angeles during christmas

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

keep the idiot box out of it imo

devvvine, Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

that's no way to talk about POPULAR ILX POSTER REDACTED

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

"you can go on a holiday any time of the year"

in the US 'holidays' means Thanksgiving through New Year's.

akm, Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

I'm still waiting for a ruling on holidays in fantasy cultures that are clearly analogous to Christmas. (Hogswatch in HOGFATHER? Life Day in THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL?)

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 21 October 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

FP’d anthony & Eric for racism

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 21 October 2019 01:02 (four years ago) link

I voted "Holiday-themed movies + holiday TV specials" but I'm fine with any choice. If Die Hard ends up in the top list, I can ignore it.

wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 21 October 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link

Die Hard sucks btw

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 October 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link

I’m only voting for Passover movies

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 21 October 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link

1 the Prince of Egypt
2. The Rugrats Passover episode

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 21 October 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

Sic's ballot will not be counted.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

Die Hard sucks btw
― Οὖτις, Sunday, October 20, 2019 8:30 PM (yesterday)

It needed to be said.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

voted Holiday-themed movies + movies set during holidays + holiday TV specials

Personally I'm for including holiday TV specials but against including holiday episodes of TV shows. Things like Emmet Otter's Jugband and the Muppet Family Christmas are holiday staples in our home & make sense to include imo because they are longer than 45 minutes and outside the normal format of whatever TV shows theyre related to, but including stuff like the Cheers Christmas ep or Festivus wld be savagery.

Also Die Hard is good, remember when he writes ‘ho ho ho’ on that dead guy in his own blood

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 21 October 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

seriously, including TV specials, especially Thanksgiving ones (!!!) turns this poll into something specifically for Americans, rather than a survey of things that everyone has had a chance to see

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

wait i thought everyone can see everything ever made in our digital Paradise

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

Could be talked into parallel rundowns for Britishes and for filthy American pigs

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

Of course, it could ALSO be a rundown of holiday movies (however people define that) with sidebar polls for Christmas specials. Even though if combined I could see, say, Charlie Brown Christmas besting most if not all films.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

I am trying to think of a British Christmas film but have so far drawn a blank. Oh yeah, Love, Actually, that's set at Christmas. But still can't think of one that isn't a fucking abomination, so point stands.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

The Snowman!

Not that I'm a fan

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

Oh yes. the snowman is good and I like it.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

Alastair Sim version of Christmas Carol I think, terrible fucking Nativity movies

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

annual polls: Christmas movies one year, Christmas specials another, Christmas episodes of TV a third.

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, October 5, 2019 2:50 PM (two weeks ago)

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

British Christmas films: Aardman flick Arthur Christmas is p great, and you could probably fit On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence, and the Muppet Christmas Carol in as technicalities of different kinds

(for TV specials, Bernard & The Genie is the only good Richard Curtis Christmas joint)

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

Oh movies would be no-borders for sure.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 21 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

While I'm curious to see what wins, I guess I'm leaning toward movies-only now and then, next year, TV specials/shows. I was just stalling for time, really.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link

I am trying to think of a British Christmas film but have so far drawn a blank. Oh yeah, Love, Actually, that's set at Christmas. But still can't think of one that isn't a fucking abomination, so point stands.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, October 21, 2019 2:09 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Holly and the Ivy (1952) is reported to be good. Not that I've actually watched it.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 1 November 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 2 November 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

Holiday-themed movies + movies set during holidays

And so it shall be done.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link

that seems like the right choice

Dan S, Saturday, 2 November 2019 00:36 (four years ago) link

Hooray

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link

and so I shall not vote

the Die Hard landslide may commence

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 November 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link

~flounce~

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 05:26 (four years ago) link


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