Worst Post-Crash Best Picture Winner

this has to be Green Book or The King's Speech; leaning towards the latter myself

is it cool if I vote for the one you couldn't pay me to actually watch

I didn't see Shape of Water, The Artist, or Green Book so I'm not going to vote for one of those. Birdman I think is the worst of the ones I've seen, Slumdog a close second.

Have only seen 2 of these but I kinda want to vote for Birdman (which I haven't seen) on principle

I haven't seen Green Book, but it's Birdman

The incredible thing about Birdman is that Biutiful is even worse

I'm going with Outis' tactic and picking Green Book as a result

From what I've read, The Artist is an underratedly terrible movie too

What you've read otm, The Artist is really bad and I always suspected that a lot of the people who voted for it at the Oscars didnt actually watch it all the way through.

The Artist is fine, not going to go to bat for it but there are at least two worse films here.

of the ones ive seen, its a tight race btw argo and slumdog. haven't seen green book, king's speech or birdman, but always thought birdman looks like it would be true torture to watch.

The two I have seen (Hurt Locker and Spotlight) don't actually piss me off too much in retrospect. Think I'm good at avoiding things I'll hate though

Someone I know watched Slumdog earlier today and said "I quite liked it" but I'll let her defend that one

The Artist is harmless. A masterpiece compared to Birdman.

Slumdog has some pretty great cinematography from Anthony Dod Mantle

i haven't seen green book but it's gotta be green book

when i worked at an independent theater slumdog had the most walkouts of any movie we'd played up to that point by far

Birdman only the fourth or fifth most offensive Innaritu movie iirc

of what I've seen, Birdman. Slumdog Millionaire in retrospect is a pretty fraudulent film tho

i had either forgotten or was unaware that slumdog won this award

it's certainly not the worst though

i skipped 3 of these and wish i'd skipped more

why was it hard to tell Slumdog was fraudulent the week it came out? (see also American Beauty)

I actually saw Green Book for the first time last week. It was so unremarkable that it was hard to even have an opinion about it.

I hated Slumdog Millionaire the first time I saw it, but I had to pick an option for a GCSE Film student this week and watching it again today recontextualised as a film for young people, it suddenly seemed more charming. The plot is almost surreally contrived, but overlooking that, it is visually spectacular at times and enjoyable enough.

Sadly I’ve seen most of the films here. Birdman was the worst.

I am the only fan of Birdman in the central time zone

AMA

I want to stick up for Birdman as I thought it was an enjoyable black comedy. It's certainly doesn't bore me unlike say... SPOTLIGHT

As bad, pretentious and pointless as Birdman was, out of those I've watched I went with The Artist which was bad, pretentious and pointless in every frame from start to finish.

Any answer that isn’t Argo is wrong.

I haven't seen 8 of these

In descending order:

Argo
Green Book
The Artist
Slumdog Millionnaire
The King's Speech

^^ grisly things to confront in the middle of a stormy night

I may have erred not putting The Artist first. I remember that holiday season arguing with people who thought silent film was a 'genre.' Fun times.

Argo at least works as a decent nail-biting thriller. Politically it's a bit suss perhaps

The Artist was bad.

I'm tempted to vote The King's Speech just for giving Tom Hooper a launchpad for his future horrors

argo is indeed slightly suss in that it’s a total fabrication of what actually happened irl and includes a scene of nail-biting tension based on the terrifying concept of being white in a public space where everyone else is brown and *gasp* some of them are looking at you

I'd watch another movie with Alan Arkin and John Goodman as coworkers.

it’s a total fabrication of what actually happened irl

It stinks, but tot fabrication is the case w/ 5,000 "true" Hollywoodizations

I'm with Karl: Birdman is good

tempted to vote for the hurt locker for being a remarkable achievement in action-thriller filmmaking from a director working at the top of her game which nonetheless is complete imperialist propaganda bullshit, using its veneer of gritty authenticity to promote the baseless idea that iraqi insurgents are such godless savages that they turn dead kids into improvised explosive devices

plus it paved the way for katherine bigelow to co-author her next movie in partnership with the central intelligence agency

Realizing I've only seen two of these (Departed and Moonlight), both good. I guess it would be Departed by default because of that goddamn rat. Don't worry, I'll refrain from voting.

It stinks, but tot fabrication is the case w/ 5,000 "true" Hollywoodizations

The Shape of Water is a weird one to throw in as an Oscars pick, and as far as late period Guillermo del Toro goes, I liked Crimson Peak better despite it dragging

tbh maybe we should vote for the movies we actually liked as enjoyable movies and Oscars best film picks should be exclusive categories

never really understood the visceral hate for Slumdog Millionaire. I mean, it's not great, but it's just Dickens-in-Mumbai what's the big deal.

other things on here are start-to-finish awful in both conception and execution (the Artist, Green Book)

Birdman is stupid and overwrought but Keaton is occasionally entertaining in it

eliminated early, they're too good:

The Departed
No Country for Old Men
The Hurt Locker
Parasite

one of these:

The King's Speech
Argo
Green Book

not one of the rest, since i think they're either vv solid and well-done or at least trying something interesting.

i stick w/Argo as a contender since i think its stupidity coupled w/the in-film "fact" that Hollywood saved the hostages kind of puts it over the top. Affleck is a decent enough filmmaker to have previously made an above-average Heat knockoff and an extremely good Dennis Lehane adaptation, so idk what happened here. maybe he got lucky w/the source material in the other two. He did screw up some good source material w/Live By Night tho.

maybe this should be a poll: when in your life did you realize that some movies are released and promoted in a way specifically to be Oscars bait?

I think I first took note as a late teen with The Cider House Rules

(American Beauty won that year and is arguably more Oscars-baity but it took me a few years to realize it)

From what I've read, The Artist is an underratedly terrible movie too

It's a stunning representation of silent films...if you know nothing about actual films made during the silent era.

Under no circumstances will I defend The King's Speech or Argo. I didn't see Green Book, because I trust those critics who were treating it as a throwback to Driving Miss Daisy.

replace 'stunning' with 'silly' or 'stultifying' and I heartily agree

Here's the real question: does anyone consider their worst post-Crash best picture winner to actually be worse than Crash?

i feel like green book might be worse but fuck if i'm actually gonna watch it to find out

i'm just always glad to see people bashing it.

Birdman was dark and brooding, just like this bird, man:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mypetchicken.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2FBroodyPenny.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

Slumdog Millionaire was a Final Jeopardy answer 4 or 5 years ago and no one got it.

I've never seen Birdman but I forgot about that parenthetical title and I must vote for it.

xpost TBF the rap album Garth Brooks released under that pseudonym disappeared almost immediately upon release.

Can I still find that on GhostTunes?

Jack Nicholson's reading of the Best Picture nominees of 2005 should be in a highlight reel as one of his best performances, particularly his pronouncement of CAH-PO-TAY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfQs7WbVse8

such effortless disinterest in what he was reading! such a complete lack of sincerity or engagement! such pointless vocal modulations! a masterly performance indeed.

glad to see a lot of people bashing birdman

were you not on twitter in 2014

― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:26 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

finally someone said it

i felt like i was the sole detractor

why would people walk out of Slumdog when it was in the theaters? The poop scene?

I like King's Speech because of the pretty wall. And people shot porn there too?

I also voted Green Book (have not seen either).

Is THAT why Josh Duhamel was changing a diaper in a shitty romcom and yelled "IT SMELLS LIKE SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE IN HERE"?

Shape Of Water bored the arse off me.

Jack Nicholson's reading of the Best Picture nominees of 2005 should be in a highlight reel as one of his best performances, particularly his pronouncement of CAH-PO-TAY.

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his best expression was after he announced the winner, understandable because it was kind of a shocking moment

I have seen all of these films, and just based on how enjoyable it was to watch them, The Shape of Water was the worst for me, even though it is probably a better film than some of the others

I don’t quite understand how people can interpret Argo as “blatant CIA propaganda” when it makes the CIA look fundamentally incompetent at almost every step of the way, requiring help from HOLLYWOOD and CANADIANS to get a small number of Americans out alive, after a military option has already failed spectacularly.

the pretty wall. And people shot porn there too?

yes.

Maybe it’s just the way I see it but Argo is fun for me because it’s like “holy shit, this entire business is rube goldberg machines, buttressed by w. heath robinson machines, etc”

They Shoot Porn There, Don't They?

I enjoyed watching most of these films, even if they weren’t great

I oppose Green Book on its principle.

King's Speech was a historical revisionist classic.

The entire premise that having a relatively unknown, recently elevated 'new' king speak on the radio without stuttering badly was of any real historic importance in WWII was a bit of twaddle designed to wring a few more drops of drama out of a situation containing very little drama of its own. He was a king at a time when being king was mostly irrelevant. And he stuttered. Compared to the reality of a nation involved in total war this amounted to less than nothing.

U mean he didn't say "tits"?

Given the length of his lifetime, I'm sure he managed to bust out a couple of "tits" before he died.

why was it hard to tell Slumdog was fraudulent the week it came out? (see also American Beauty)

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, February 10, 2020 11:10 AM (yesterday)

bc I was 19 :P

Xpost I'ma let bg clean that one up

AQUA DONG

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These are the four worst. But they're all masterpieces next to Crash.

The King's Speech
The Artist
Argo
The Shape of Water

I've only seen six of these, so I voted for The King's Speech, which was the worst of the six.

I've seen seven, of which Argo was the worst. Still voting for Green Book though.

Green Book is the only one I haven't seen, because it is the worst.

I enjoyed all the others, to a greater or lesser extent. Slumdog Millionaire perhaps least.

From best to worst...

No Country for Old Men
Parasite
Moonlight
The Departed
The Hurt Locker
12 Years a Slave
Spotlight
Slumdog Millionaire
Green Book
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance)
The Shape of Water
Argo
The Artist
The King's Speech

that's close to how I would place them

I had no idea Birdman won best pic. I enjoyed it as a weird little comedy.

Words can’t express how much I hated The Shape of Water; it cemented my opinion that GDT is the worst critically lauded director working today. Although it did open my eyes to the idea that apparently a lot of women secretly want to shag a fish-man.

Words can’t express how much I hated The Shape of Water

Ditto. Of the eight films I've seen in this poll, this is the only one I outright hated.

apparently a lot of women secretly want to shag a fish-man

I suspect the big attraction for women was that he was mute.

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I'm surprised at the numbers for NCfOM and Departed.

would like to hear the thinking of four voters

I think a few people admitted to having had misread the poll as best, not worst

at least I hope so

In my movie theater career career NCfOM generated some of the funniest audience feedback from dumb people going to see it just bc it won best picture, including my favorite (mightve told this story before): the lady who walked up to the counter afterwards and goes “So I don’t get it... it was all just a DREAM?”

Jones used to read Word Up! magazine

some day I'm going to show someone the director's cut of The Counselor and tell them it was No Country for Old Men

lol wait there’s a director’s cut of the counselor?

In my movie theater career career NCfOM generated some of the funniest audience feedback from dumb people going to see it just bc it won best picture, including my favorite (mightve told this story before): the lady who walked up to the counter afterwards and goes “So I don’t get it... it was all just a DREAM?”

― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Sunday, February 23, 2020 6:26 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol this was p close to my experience. at the end, some lady yelled out "that's IT?"

xp yes, and although I forget the differences, it is definitely better

..and apparently 20 minutes longer

The Blu-Ray of The Counselor comes with both cuts and yes, Scott's version is better than the version I saw in a theater. (It's a good movie; I like it. You have to meet it where it is, though - it concedes nothing, in any cut.)

No Country for Old Men 4
The Artist 3

In what world?