Learned League

My first time on this year; would love a place to kibbitz on prior days questions and brag and bitch.
I'm 3-0 but I'm chalking that up to beginner's luck and a rookie rundle.
how about you?

Riding the bottom of A babee. Did we not have a thread already?

nope.

this is really making me use some muscles that have long been neglected. I've always prided myself on fast reference google-fu. LL is just about information that you've been exposed to or otherwise can puzzle out from your memory. You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it! I'm approaching it where I read the questions late night, answer whatever i know immediately and sleep on the rest till the morning and that seems to help a bit.

Oh hey! I remember James Redd and the Blecchs and I talked about starting a LL thread on ILX a few years ago, but we clearly never got around to it.

I'm 1-2-0 so far this season in A Keystone.

I occasionally post on the LL message board, too.

You don't generally seem to be able to "figure out" clues logically or utilize your skillset to uncover information... you just have to remember it!

I don't actually think this is true! I don't know that the first few questions this season have necessarily been representative, but one of the things I like about LL is that you often can puzzle things out if you read the question closely.

Actually, the Vaseline question from the other day might be a good example of this. I'd never heard of the Chesebrough Manufacturing Company, but I kept focusing on "Titusville, Pennsylvania" and thought, is it related to the coal industry? If I'd thought harder, I might have landed on oil instead, which could conceivably have led me to petroleum jelly. (It didn't happen, but it could have!)

You're right, though, that a fair amount is dredging stuff up from memory. I always read the questions when I wake up in the morning and then usually let them rattle around my noggin for a while before submitting answers. Sometimes an answer will come to the surface in the interim. For instance, one time, on my way to work, I suddenly and inexplicably recalled the name Zamfir.

Anyway I never use my invites so hmu ilxors. Word is league growth will be capped eventually at which point I guess it becomes one in one out, so get in while getting is good.

Baffling

for the confused:
https://learnedleague.com/

Some other useful links:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-coolest-weirdest-internet-community-youll-never-be-able-to-join/2014/08/20/3c3f565e-26eb-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/magazine/letter-of-recommendation-learned-league.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mick-mulvaney-learned-league-trivia_n_5c941573e4b0a6329e147a61

Thanks

3 of 6 correct today, 2 that i kinda thought i coulda got right and 1 that was just no chance at all

Hey don’t post about questions until the results are in, even obliquely! You don’t know who’s submitted yet.

well sure, but how is saying what i think i got right by the numbers revealing anything?

I’m sure there is some ruling from the Commissioner on this on the site, pro or con.

i challenge jaymc to 'smith' a one-day about ilx

forks if I were to know you intimately I could derive third-order insight into the answers by analyzing how well you thought you did, imo. Best to avoid even the appearance of etc.

Makes sense

i've been doing learned league for a few years on an invite from jaymc. i'm in C rundle, which seems to be about right since i almost always end up right in the middle of the rankings at the end of each season. i've had a strong start to this season so far but i'm sure i'll hit a rut and end up back in the middle again.

my ongoing minor issue with the main learned league is the "classical music" category, which seems very specific for a stand-alone category (that i suck at). i wish they just had a "music" category that spanned all genres.

silby OTM about not posting *anything* about a Match Day until it's over

U guys are playing 3D chess but whatever works is fine. Meet you back here at 1 in the morning to discuss.

I can't immediately find anything from the Commissioner about this, though it is a widely accepted norm within the LL community. On the LL board, whenever anyone posts even the most innocuous thing about a question while the Match Day is live, the post gets deleted.

Also, here's someone in a Learned League thread on the Jeopardy! message board:

With the new season and new players, it is a good time to remind everyone of the rule about discussing matches on this board. Please do not make any comment about the questions until that day's results have been posted on the LL board. Do not say how many you got right or wrong. Do not say if you thought they were hard or easy. Just do not say anything at all about the questions until the LL day has ended and the next day's questions are up.

As extreme as it may seem, I think it makes sense to stick with that rule here, too.

Oh, it's also in WestJ's LL84 welcome post:

Please remember, do not post anything here or elsewhere about any LL questions while a match day is underway. Not with a spoiler warning, not with oblique references, not asking if a question has an error in it, not anything. Period.

Well it's tomorrow now and I can reveal the secret that a plurality LL'ers are not fans of Bhad Bhabie

Haha. That was actually my route in, and I almost thought the answer was "Bad" until I remembered that "Suge" was the name of a song by Da Baby.

I lost 8(5)-7(5). Always disappointing to get the same number of questions right but lose on defense.

I am averaging about three right per game, but in the rookie league with some judicious defense, that seems to be enough to stay fairly competitive.

damn i almost missed this thread. u can find me having terrible defense to start, i'm 2-2 :/ i'm usually decent on defense? but i have been getting steadily worse somehow season over season. idk why.

also there was a thread but like a fool i smushed the words together LearnedLeague - any iLLx0rs out there?

i was gonna give a cryptic clue to my name since i don't like saying it on here (i mean i guess it's already too late to run for office due to my history on this site, i would guess) but then i realized i put it in the other thread so go look there!

also yes i haven't used an invite in ages so if anyone needs, hit silby up and then hit me up

and i 100% got that q yesterday on account of bhad bhabie (almost went with lil on account of yes indeed, until i read closer lol) (also i feel like lil was a question super recently???)

and yeah esp if this is a public board, no talk on today's results is always a good move. also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

Completely new to this, but really like the idea. It seems like it's too late to join this season--is that correct?

yeah you have to join in between seasons

or you might be able to join but you wouldn't be able to play this season.

also no talking abt the random comedians u found and you're like "wow no way they're just like me!" and you sometimes check in to see what they got. its bad form

What about high-ranking White House officials

I too would like to join! Will M, silby, or any other kind ilxor have a spare invite?

theo von is a beast at learned league guys

Oh wait $30 for membership, gotta think about this.

What about high-ranking White House officials

Actually, I am going to answer my own post and note that the Commish has laid down the law about this, so I am going to respect that decision, but I still find the whole thing amazing sometimes.

@Leee: You only have to pay after you've completed a full rookie season, so you can try it out and decide if you like it. I have plenty of invites to spare, too.

can one of you kind individuals send me an invite, please? ilx webmail reaches me :)

Ah ok, that sounds reasonable. You can ilx mail me, and thanks!

Suge was one of the year’s biggest rap hits; surprised that didn’t give away that clue. I guess people aren’t much listening to that world unless they are specialists.

the 30 also covers a full year, which is i believe 3 or 4 seasons, so if you like the first season you're not paying too much to keep going!

i don't see where to send invites tho, is it possible to do so during the season or do we have to wait a month?

also if we have this many ppl i am definitely thinking ilxor private rundle next go around

Okay, I just looked, and you can only give out 1 invite per season (unless you are a Premier or Commissioner's Circle member). Pretty sure there were more at one point, but I don't blame Thorsten for wanting to put some controls on growth.

I'll give mine to you, Leee, since we've actually met IRL!

Oh, and Will, the referral page is here:
https://www.learnedleague.com/thorsten/referral.php

if my quick scan is right, leee, unctious, and jim want invites? and jaymc has leee? so i will send one to Unc & someone else get jim? (lmk if i missed any. i am so tired rn)

Unc contacted me, I will take care of ‘em

ok jim i'll send you a message then!

Why the low get rate on Q4 yesterday, Charles Pathé? This was the flaw in my defense, since I thought everybody must know this, especially an opponent with .761 in Film so assigned it a zero, allowing him to tie me 4(4)-4(3). Note: really don’t care that much, long ago gave up agonizing on defense, valuing speed over accuracy, having long ago settled down into C Rundle, most of my enjoyment now coming from the occasional 1DS or ML.

(After that post, I looked up what it actually was.)

I'm playing it very poorly but knew that one. Defense has been really hard!

Haha, SCP came up in an OQL UK friendly last week. We were all saying we had no real idea what it was, but all LL players were retrospectively glad of the conversation.

Yes, I do appreciate that defense is pretty much a crapshoot in my ML; my own projections of the get rates of the questions has been way off in a few instances.

RTFQ, Leee.

It just gave me a bit of joy in the evening to look back and realize that silby and I tied in the Wodehouse 1DS.

Last place!

I've stumbled out of the gate, too -- currently in 20th.

yesterday's presidents question was a+ trivia imo

also honestly every single answer today should have been 'henry kissinger' with the questions being 'who dated marlo thomas' 'who suborned the paris peace talks' 'who killed the most people' etc

i was just thinking that this season's questions seem easier than usual so far, or at least more in my wheelhouse - feels like a lot more pop culture stuff than usual

though that probably means the rest of the season will be all classical music and ancient geography

disappointed that the beastie boys, to my knowledge, never mentioned the great australian BIGHT

also want to know who decides which vichyssoice ingredient is 'primary'

i'll take 'water'

yeah as far as i can tell there are two primary ingredients. i apparently chose the wrong one

The ingredienthood (or otherwise) of water seems like one of those things that should be settled once and for all in some kind of Quiz Constitution. I didn't even consider it, but see how it might throw you. I thought the Parmentier hint would make this one OK-ish (wiki says "best remembered as a vocal promoter of the potato as a food source for humans in France and throughout Europe"), except it turns out leek was also accepted.

I got bight right because it's part of my flash card set, which also led me to assign it 1 point on defense against someone with a 70% geography score (they got it wrong).

Anyway, I've dug myself out of relegation, with a miraculous win against someone whose worst category is still 50%.

In a kind of reversal of the previous season, I'm lower half in correct answers, but only one point behind Championship qualification, having got a couple of ridiculous breaks with lucky matchups and strange opponent defence.

I'd have known _____ of Biafra but didn't know about the Australian one and I guess wasn't really sure what the definition was.

I need to brag because this season has been frustrating, but I was one of 2 people who got Q2 right yesterday and it was what got me the tie against the player in first place; what's more, they answered more questions right in that match and have 22(!) more TCA than me.

I don't think I am in danger of relegation, but I'm going to end up with my lowest TCA in 20 seasons. Have the questions been harder this season or just not in my wheelhouse?

by TBA it's probably the worst i've done in about 3 years, so it isn't just you!

by TCA* hah although I suppose it is TBA

I too am threatening to set a personal worst in TCA this year.

My latest 1DS is up in beta and there are still lots of testing slots if your are not going to play;)

You even

Wanted to plug the upcoming HEAVY METAL ML that I contributed to (my first ML!).

Cool! I registered.

Just submitted on Goth and Gothic and Music Theory.

Only missed one on Music Theory which means I wasn’t one of the umpteenth champs or perfect 12s. Just couldn’t come up with the words Secondary Dominant although of course I am very familiar with the concept.

No one else here played Godard except me?

In the run-up zone now.

Into the top 50 of Music Subgenres and got all 12 questions! (And I was just two moneys from a higher percentile.) I expect that's the closest I'll ever come to winning one.

Cool. I just didn’t feel like playing that one.

not sure why i signed up for the metal mini-league; i'm gonna get my ass kicked

Ha, me too, but I don’t think I mind that so much.

It's because yall can't resist my wiles.

Hah! Almost didn’t see your name!

I created another difficult one. Play at your own risk!

FWIW I would've gotten at most 2 questions in the metal MD1.

Heh, been doing this for so long I have a pretty good idea of how many will play and who will do well.

Interesting story about the extinct Celtic language from yesterday’s Metal ML.

Opened with a 9(6) and in first place, only one way to go from here.

Up, up and away?

James, I dismissed that as a bit of cheek at the time and yet after the first week I'm still undefeated! It's been an incredible run of luck with both the questions (my QvH is currently 129, which is pretty unsustainable) and opponents (lowest CAA).

nice work, Leee!

Well, I'm in the midst of my regression back to the mean!

Also, my OQL team played Greg's last week, but I wasn't in the lineup. Sorry to miss you!

good job jaymc getting #1 in the "just audio produced by" one-day. i surprisingly got #11 despite missing a question.

!!!

I forgot to check yesterday, but I had a good feeling about my chances.

Meanwhile, I came in 93rd %ile in Butts.

(I forgot to submit the producers one!)