The way we live now - how will covid-19 change us?

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I was thinking about things that will either fall out of use or become more popular or common over the next period.

Cash - as in, paper money. When (if?) stuff comes back, this will have the effect of shifting a lot of people to accept card payments too.

Phone calls - I used to use the phone a lot, then dropped off as everyone else did, and am now back using it. Why? Less effort than a video call, good to hear other people’s voices.

Co-streaming type services - I don’t know a better way of putting this. As well as playing online with friends, we will sometimes shareplay, where one of us has a game on and we can talk while playing. It’s useful for giving people a look at games they might be interested in, you can swap over control so they can play. It’s the nearest thing I can think of to playing games with my siblings at home and probably why I like it so much. Also - various film streaming services and the like.

Hairdressers - can you even do this adequately with social distancing? Asking for me, as I deeply regret not getting my hair cut last week.

Obviously the impacts are far reaching and go way beyond these points, but I was thinking of smaller things that will either fall out of usage or become very difficult to do, whereas we might find more use for some things than we did recently.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:37 (two months ago) link

I dont' know about these small things but I'm more interested in the large scale changes that could happen. How can the homeless shelter in place when they have no shelter? Will we see widespread deaths in those communities? The same with refugee populations in Greece, Turkey and elsewhere; I forsee the potential for catastrophic loss of life in these areas. Will this event make humanity more human? Or more selfish?

akm, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:47 (two months ago) link

Will we see the institution of some kind of public option for health care in the US even if Trump wins re-election? Expansion of the safety net? That's being floated right now but how long will it go on?

akm, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:48 (two months ago) link

Working in general. I think remote work is going to become more of the norm for office workers than it currently is; more people will get used to videoconferencing as a regular activity, especially. This will be great if for no other reason than the sheer amount of pollution it will eliminate.

Conservatives will not seek any meaningful expansion of the safety net for citizens.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:07 (two months ago) link

1895-2020, birthed by capitalism + technological innovation, ended by capitalism + technological innovation. pic.twitter.com/ynnxz5vyB4

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) March 16, 2020

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:10 (two months ago) link

Working in general. I think remote work is going to become more of the norm for office workers than it currently is

it would be nice if this could go some way to evening out the ridiculous geographical variation in house prices/rents

(mostly wishful thinking, but maybe a tiny effect)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:21 (two months ago) link

agreed about remote work

a lot of companies are gonna have people working remotely for 2-3 months and will inevitably find that it's not so disruptive or bad and is not in fact akin to a vacation day

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:24 (two months ago) link

nightlife is going to take a long time to come back.

Yerac, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:26 (two months ago) link

remote work is gonna really fuck universities in the long run

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:36 (two months ago) link

maybe food is going to get a bit more geared to the essentials? less artisinal/bourgie

like, fewer people are gonna be cheerfully paying $8.50 Australian (as I do a few times a week) for a loaf soy and linseed sourdough - and all those businesses are gonna be feeling the pinch a bit as a result

and subsequently food is gonna start feeling really 1970s for a while

longer term maybe local/small scale producers are gonna make a comeback though? as part of the turn away from globalisation this will be turbocharging, and a post-covid desire to know where your food is coming from

just thinking out loud I guess

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:40 (two months ago) link

our way of life changed permanently in many ways after the Great Recession. i suspect the arts are going to get fucked in so many ways.

concert promoters are getting beat up so hard right now. theatres are shutting. bands are ass out.

ultimately I think the future will be we never leave our houses, but all houses are fitted with wheels and remote controls, so our houses are like cars we can drive around to visit each other. cars will no longer be needed.

sex is going to be really weird.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:52 (two months ago) link

pretty much the hobbies that keep me the most invigorated are going to be scarcer and harder to participate in and that's gonna fuckin' suck

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:53 (two months ago) link

weirdly, I have an anxiety disorder, and despite me having typed all of that, I'm not scared about any of it. cos who knows what'll really happen

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:54 (two months ago) link

INFO: i need to know how sex with my spouse is going to get weirder.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:01 (two months ago) link

I suspect partner sex will be the same, I was envisioning two people that don't live together though emerging from their house in this hermetically sealed bubble and like somehow transferring fluids between their bubbles

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:03 (two months ago) link

*spousal, not partner. oi...long day

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:03 (two months ago) link

sex for me will be about the same - non-existent!

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:04 (two months ago) link

the fluids are obviously the best part.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:04 (two months ago) link

maybe they'll use those containers that they use in the drive-thru at the bank

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:06 (two months ago) link

I think people will wash their hands more

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:07 (two months ago) link

I mean, in general, not during sex

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:07 (two months ago) link

Or who knows, maybe also during sex

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:07 (two months ago) link

i already wash them way more

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:11 (two months ago) link

there was a substantial drop in birth rates in the great depression and there almost certainly will be another one coming up for about four obvious reasons

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:48 (two months ago) link

I feel like there will be a baby boom in 9-10 months. Now that we're both WFH, I've never spent this much daily time with my wife in our entire relationship, I imagine this will continue provided our daycare doesn't close.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:05 (two months ago) link

In 13 years those babies will be quaranteens

Ok bloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:06 (two months ago) link

lol

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:07 (two months ago) link

I will be a eunuch for the rest of my life

xpost oh jesus christ lb

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:09 (two months ago) link

Lots of people who provide almost no value to humanity are working from home, will stay comfortable and safe; many more people who are necessary, important and generally underpaid will continue to expose themselves to danger in order to get the first group their delivery of French fries/artisanal dog food - if they're lucky enough to keep working.

Maybe we'll catch on to this dichotomy.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:13 (two months ago) link

there was a substantial drop in birth rates in the great depression and there almost certainly will be another one coming up for about four obvious reasons

come on, the Ghostbusters reboot wasn't that bad

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:15 (two months ago) link

Further rise of video conferencing / remote work will probably reduce business travel. helpful for reducing carbon emissions.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:32 (two months ago) link

After living thru one global catastrophe, will we finally get the necessary political will to tackle climate change?

that's not my post, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:34 (two months ago) link

soy and linseed sourdough doesn't sound very good to me

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:48 (two months ago) link

Real talk from someone on the inside of this particular issue - local government is going to be fundamentally transformed from here on out. Mayors/alderman/councilpersons (insert your town or cities structure here) will be held accountable for dead people in their municipalities that resulted from the general lack of public policy spawned by years of “our job is development” and “but my property taxes” as priority number one.

jjjusten, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:53 (two months ago) link

Large cities aren’t immune to this criticism, but generally they are already operating on a higher level (cops not being bastards, rent control, etc) so economically removed policy has been considered by voters. “Small town politics” on the other hand will be changed in a fundamental way. Some of which will be good, some of which will be catastrophically bad. Get ready to see the usual lawyer/realtor/developer group lose their spots (good) but prepare to see reactionary nutjobs seep in as well.

jjjusten, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 06:02 (two months ago) link

Oh also, hi. Outside of the explosion of work at my very secondary job, my main job is leaving me a lot of spare time, so I might be around for a while again.

jjjusten, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 06:04 (two months ago) link

soy and linseed sourdough doesn't sound very good to me

it's delicious!

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 06:46 (two months ago) link

I was chatting to a Berlin based friend who is struggling to get by but was just about surviving by air bnb-ing part of his flat. Obv that income stream is fucked for now, but was thinking the whole concept of air bnb might not recover for a long time even after this has passed.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:35 (two months ago) link

we were already living in a time of profound political uncertainty, already living under a political system under intense pressure and strain. crises test institutions, and our institutions didn't seem to me to be super robust even before this hit.

i gave up making long-term, specific predictions in november 2016. i don't feel like there's enough specific information about covid-19 right now for me to make any prognostications that are differentiable from wide-eyed speculation. i don't feel like contemplating the potential collapse of "civilization" is particularly helpful to me, personally.

someone on one of my discords was predicting long-term quarantine. i'm thinking about how that would play out. overnight we have a world where the opportunities for billions of people, people who maybe didn't already have super great opportunities in the first place, have dramatically narrowed. people who can't work, can't learn, can't pay their bills. is the expectation that these people will quietly starve to death?

i feel like there is also a certain amount of underestimating of the social effects of prolonged social isolation. i'm a huge introvert. i don't get out much. i'm struggling to imagine a world where almost all our interaction takes place over screens and phones that doesn't involve everybody going utterly fucking bonkers. "stay at home and never talk to anybody again" isn't practical advice. as much as we are into collectively shaming people who go outside, there are folks who have a profound need for social contact. i can't bring myself to assume that refusal to live in complete social isolation is completely a conscious act of moral failure in all cases.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:54 (two months ago) link

Large cities aren’t immune to this criticism, but generally they are already operating on a higher level (cops not being bastards

― jjjusten

fucking lol

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:55 (two months ago) link

I guess the original premise is in part about small but significant changes in our behaviour that will arise from this period of self-containment that could continue if and when things return to something approaching normal? ie after the epidemic is brought under control or effective vaccines or treatments are discovered?

The biggest area for me is around tourism, holidays, business travel etc. On the assumption that industrialised nations will return to broad normality within a year or so then a lot of things will come absolutely roaring back if there is money available - restaurants, nightlife etc being main area, because the pent-up demand will be gigantic. But when is the opportunity to just travel somewhere coming back? The crisis has barely even begun in poorer nations and that's going to have a huge effect on which countries are easier or harder to get into.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:40 (two months ago) link

Trying to think really small here, is there a board game boom on the way for example?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:41 (two months ago) link

Yeah the thread is really for small things, I thought there was enough eschatology literally everywhere else. Can’t even go into some threads much because some people seem to be enjoying it.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:43 (two months ago) link

I'm wondering what happens to pop music when people can't meet up and dance. We're going to find out soon enough but there could be a sonic step-change in the offing.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:51 (two months ago) link

Who is enjoying this?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:06 (two months ago) link

If you don’t know, you don’t read the threads enough, is all I’m say.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:07 (two months ago) link

I'm wondering what happens to pop music when people can't meet up and dance. We're going to find out soon enough but there could be a sonic step-change in the offing.


Lots more bedroom music & self-releases? Everyone really will have a soundcloud.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:11 (two months ago) link

I feel like cities might empty out of younger people if this goes on for long. Why pay the rent of living in an urban environment if you can’t reap any of the benefits?

Coffee shops are (especially) doomed. Nespresso adoption is going to skyrocket.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:12 (two months ago) link

I am really hoping we get a long moratorium of politicians trolling the public/their constituents.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:13 (two months ago) link

maybe food is going to get a bit more geared to the essentials? less artisinal/bourgie

like, fewer people are gonna be cheerfully paying $8.50 Australian (as I do a few times a week) for a loaf soy and linseed sourdough

i literally made my own linseed and emmer sourdough this morning. isolation = crafts (& crusts)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:21 (two months ago) link

Getting paid to do nothing for 3 months is gonna be hard to come back from I think. God knows I hate working for a living.

I'm actually working (if managing the social media accounts for a medical school counts) but I'm curious how many people who have office jobs that are now doing those jobs via video-conferencing and email, and seeing no drop in productivity other than that attributable to COVID-19 generally, are gonna want to stay on WFH status permanently? I know I vastly prefer it, but I've been doing it for close to five years already.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:12 (two months ago) link

I’m definitely switching to 3 days a week telework. I need to be in the office for certain things, though, and my wife already WFH’s nearly every day of the week.

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:17 (two months ago) link

Getting paid to do nothing for 3 months is gonna be hard to come back from I think. God knows I hate working for a living.

Haha so true. I have all the natural human responses to global peril, but at the same time whenever I hear "We're closer to a vaccine!" or "Deaths are down!" part of me shivers at the thought of returning to the office.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:19 (two months ago) link

will all the de-lurking ilxors still post once this is over?

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:21 (two months ago) link

count me as the opposite -- I need some measure of externally imposed routine in my life

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:37 (two months ago) link

Wearing shoes all day every day again is going to feel really weird.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:38 (two months ago) link

When I'm out walking now, and I see anybody do anything that's even remotely out of the ordinary--stop in the middle of the street and stare at something for a few seconds, signal for a right-hand turn and then change their mind...okay, if I see anybody do anything except walk forward in a straight line--I grumble "What the fuck are you doing?" Hopefully that will pass.

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 15:31 (two months ago) link

private health insurance won't survive this. millions are being thrown off their healthcare at the time they need ti most.

treeship., Monday, 30 March 2020 19:19 (two months ago) link

finally getting out of my pyjamas will feel odd

||||||||, Monday, 30 March 2020 19:23 (two months ago) link

haha I was properly dressed bar wearing pyjamas today, but I haven’t worn shoes in two weeks

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:23 (two months ago) link

What's a shoe?

coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:24 (two months ago) link

*pyjamas bottoms

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:24 (two months ago) link

I was watching Top Chef and people were touching their faces while preparing food!

Yerac, Monday, 30 March 2020 19:26 (two months ago) link

I can see a star in the Paris night sky : things have changed

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:32 (two months ago) link

i keep waiting for the sky/air to clear a lot here but I think it's unlikely since we are in a valley.

Yerac, Monday, 30 March 2020 19:35 (two months ago) link

I would like to think that ppl might be less inclined to be cunts about the whole concept of prison

Like they’ll be about to moan about how “lenient” it is to lock a human being away for five years of their life in the shittiest conditions and then suddenly they’ll remember that time they lost their fucking mind after two weeks of having to mostly stay in their house with only Netflix and Disney plus and Ocado and deliveroo and Spotify and FaceTime and amazon prime and audible and six concubines for company

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:03 (two months ago) link

bloody concubine hoarders, some of us have to get by with only three

a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:04 (two months ago) link

this may be a "men are from mars, women are from Venus" thing but I'm actually ok with rapists having a shitty time

kinder, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:39 (two months ago) link

Can certainly see how my post comes across as strongly pro-rapist but that isn’t how I intended it fwiw

I’m thinking of the daily mail reader arguments that judges are all too soft and it’s practically a holiday to lock people (including non-violent offenders and disproportionately non-whites) away for “only” a year or five or ten. We should at least be honest and start with the admission that this is a heinous punishment and argue why it’s good from there

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:14 (two months ago) link

The thought processes of Daily Mail readers are probably past saving tbh. There will always be some reason why XYZ doesn't apply to any other group.

kinder, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:13 (two months ago) link

Anyone else getting a ton of magazine ebook suggestions on amazon? The magazines usually bought in newsagents and supermarkets.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:10 (two months ago) link

I just went outside to take out the trash and see if the bodega had any paper towels and it was terrifying. The dull gray sky and light drizzle didn't help matters much. Also paper towels were $3.50 a roll at the bodega where I wound up buying them (another had opened a Costco pack of Bounty and affixed a $3.99 price tag to each individual roll)

maura, Thursday, 2 April 2020 21:33 (one month ago) link

I timed my beer run perfectly today and picked up an 8 pack of giant paper towel rolls from the rapidly dwindling delivery that our local Safeway must have gotten just this morning. Also fresh strawberries and popsicles (people been hoarding the good popsicles too).

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 April 2020 22:05 (one month ago) link

xp: our local kmart was reportedly selling individual rolls of toilet paper for $2.69.

☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 3 April 2020 11:01 (one month ago) link

I have been feeling really bad lately for people who are having to go through this alone, or worse, stuck with someone they would prefer not to be around constantly. I grew up starved of loving touch, and I know how that affected me. I already felt like I was living in a world where physical touch was stigmatized because of uncontrolled abusers and creeps without a proper understanding of consent or relational power dynamics. How many people are having, possibly for the first time, to live a life completely bereft of touch? How long will this go on, and what is happening to all those people?

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:26 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

The sales of clothing and accessories fell by more than half in March, a trend that is expected to only get worse in April. The entire executive team at Lord & Taylor was let go this month. Nordstrom has canceled orders and put off paying its vendors. The Neiman Marcus Group, the most glittering of the American department store chains, is expected to declare bankruptcy in the coming days, the first major retailer felled during the current crisis.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:27 (one month ago) link

all stores will be online, 3% of the world will have jobs, we will be hooked up to machines that feed us Nerds that act as our sustenance.

all music will be made by Toby Keith

genital giant (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:32 (one month ago) link

I’m cool with all of that except the last sentence.

pomenitul, Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:32 (one month ago) link

The changes in logistics are not especially interesting or meaningful to me. If anything basic changes about 'how we live' as a result of this pandemic, I think it is likely to be that a much larger percentage of the privileged classes will come to realize that wealth and privilege cannot totally insulate them from unpredictable pain and suffering. I wonder if this will allow them to develop a greater empathy with the less privileged, but I'm not counting on it.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 26 April 2020 03:34 (one month ago) link

how did 3 weeks pass between the last post and the revive

groundhog day, holy shit

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Sunday, 26 April 2020 04:43 (one month ago) link

The story on the impending collapse of department stores suggests to me that gift cards will be much less desirable. In an age of massive economic uncertainty, purchasing credit as a gift will be far too risky. Tangibles rule.

doug watson, Sunday, 26 April 2020 09:39 (one month ago) link

we will be hooked up to machines that feed us Nerds that act as our sustenance.

so there's an upside, you're saying

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 26 April 2020 10:03 (one month ago) link

to the optimism thread!

kim rong un (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 April 2020 10:20 (one month ago) link

i demand nerd ropes for the common man!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 26 April 2020 17:20 (one month ago) link

I don't think I've bought something from a department store this century

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 26 April 2020 17:57 (one month ago) link

I bought some stuff from Century 21 the winter before last, does that count?

Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 April 2020 18:01 (one month ago) link

It's interesting looking back at previous pandemics just how quickly all the lessons that were learnt were utterly forgotten. cf these incredibly contemporary Japanese posters from the Spanish flu: http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2020/04/25/japan-spanish-flu-pandemic-manual/

The changes that will endure, I think, are those that have been held back for too long by reactionary resistance. A lot of "we can't possibly let you WFH because X" management positioning has been put to the test and proven nonsense.

The ultimate knock-ons of that sort of thing are hard to predict. eg: it hasn't gone unnoticed by the people I work with that when we Zoom one another, the 20-somethings in Manchester and Glasgow are living in the sorts of pads that in London only the top execs get to live in. A decent number of them are mainly only in London because it's where the work is – so if we enter WFH for a year plus, do they stay in their tiny London flatshares? I think the appeal of cosmpolitan-with-property-available towns is going to call to them. That's a huge reconfiguration, if it plays out on a large scale.

stet, Sunday, 26 April 2020 18:26 (one month ago) link

There's also a rare chance right now to banish fucking cars while the gettings good. Milan is trying that; I'd love to see other places do the same. London is blissful without the damn things.

stet, Sunday, 26 April 2020 18:26 (one month ago) link

oh man, if it was possible to banish cars in the US, similar to Milan or London, I would be over the moon. I like road trips, but I hate driving, I feel like I have a 20% chance of death on the roads of FL, and I love cities with public transportation.

but even if we had the ability to nationalize public transportation and eradicate the need for them, people would say "YOU CAN'T TELL ME I CAN'T DRIVE" and would purposefully die in car wrecks to prove a point.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 April 2020 18:53 (one month ago) link

both stet posts otm and can def see some major traction across a number of fronts to push for the death of commuting and work-to-location

kim rong un (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:24 (one month ago) link

London is blissful without the damn things.

― stet, Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:26 PM

Every time I've been to London I've been terrified of fast cars there. Some people drive like maniacs there (usually in expensive cars).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:37 (one month ago) link

that bit has got worse recently, sry

stet, Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:55 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

https://jalopnik.com/hertzs-late-night-bankruptcy-filing-sends-ripples-throu-1843628287

Car rental business drying up has significant effects on lots of other markets. If air travel stays depressed for a long time, the knock ons to car manufacturers and the used car market could be big.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 02:49 (five days ago) link

That's gonna kill the market for shitty model cars that no one else wants

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 03:06 (five days ago) link

On Monday, Hertz dumped a bunch of bumble bee-colored Corvette z06s on to the used car market for a heck of a good deal. More used car deals were rolling in Saturday morning on Hertz’s website after the filing announcement. Here’s a 2020 BMW 740i for $52,949 and only 8,595 miles on the odometer, a full $5,000-$8,000 less than similar cars with similar milage in the same area, for instance.

There are plenty of less flashy cars for decent deals as well, especially if you’re in the market for one of the old rental car standbys, like a Toyota Corolla or a Chevy Tahoe. If a company that has been around since 1918 has to die, consumers might as well pick the bones clean.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 03:11 (five days ago) link

damn, there are actually some pretty great deals on the site right now. It's tempting because we are expecting to need a second car at some point in the next couple years. At the same time, we are fine without one for now, and there's no greater savings than not buying something at all.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 03:19 (five days ago) link

A 10-20% discount for a rental car would not be enough to get me to overlook the manner in which people drive rentals.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 03:33 (five days ago) link

yeah, that's true. And tbh I'm seeing prices on Carvana that are not that far off from the Hertz prices, used car market in general seems pretty buyer-friendly.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 03:35 (five days ago) link

of course this happens right after I pay off my current vehicle.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 03:37 (five days ago) link


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