Oscars 2021

(I do think the songs should have been in as pre-records.)

I have not watched the majority of these movies but I’m shocked to have learned the Oscars messed up this year!

just wanted to know how mad I should be about best original screenplay...it worked! I'm mad

Didn't watch, but apparently Adam Schlesinger was skipped over in the memorial? Writing songs for movies with even a big part of his thing. I mean, he's a former Oscar nominee!

Also apparently missing, Monte Hellman, Stuart Gordon, Jessica Walters ...

Pretty sure he would've enjoyed the snub but nevertheless, a good place to start: Stuart Gordon, the motherfuckin' man - FARINA'D!!! pic.twitter.com/kyEZMZIYQn

— Chris Cabin (@Crabin) April 26, 2021

I only watched for hour or so of this yesterday, but it definitely felt like the most boring oscars I've watched. I don't think I fully realized how important having clips was for me. I liked the opening credits.

I usually watch but I know basically none of the movies that were nominated this year so we tuned into a random 15 minutes in the middle during some technical award and it was so weird and awkward and the nominees clearly hated having a camera jammed in their faces and dealing with the presenter's overly-familiar banter. It was all too ramshackle and post-apocalyptic for me. I'll take gross + gaudy Oscar pomp over whatever that was any year.

maybe it's because i was only paying half attention, but the presenter spiels dragged and dragged, making the actual awarding of the oscar a weird anticlimax.

*making it hard to remember what category they were even presenting and making etc.

Maybe Soderbergh's ultimate end goal here was to make us all WANT a typical, gaudy, tasteless, embarrassing, old-school, hosted Oscarcast.

as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag

No judgment but I find the concept of not watching movies but watching the Oscars incredibly weird! It would be like somebody not watching football but watching the NFL draft show.

didn't watch but it seems like we learned more about soderbergh than we did about the year in movies

(Then again, I don't watch many movies OR watch the Oscars but here I am reading and indeed posting in the Oscars thread on ILX, so what does that tell you?)

maybe i'm more of an 'oscar head' than most but i have to say that i did not find it hard to remember which awards were being presented during the brief 50-60 second period that the nominees were being listed

xxp more like not watching football but watching the pro bowl

anyway, i thought The Rider was one of the best films I've ever seen so even though i still haven't gotten to nomadland I'm happy for Zhao.

xp But that's different, even football fans don't care about the Pro Bowl

mmmmm you may be getting my point

my mom cares about the oscars. though, thanks to plex, this year she actually saw most of the movies beforehand and was excited to have a rooting interest

maybe i'm more of an 'oscar head' than most but i have to say that i did not find it hard to remember which awards were being presented during the brief 50-60 second period that the nominees were being listed

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, April 26, 2021 10:33 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

many of the pre-award spiels were a lot longer than that but yeah i was paying half-attention, and breaking the presenter banter-montage-award progression that i've been conditioned to expect threw me off

I don't have a problem with Nomadland, Zhao, Hopkins, or Youn Yuh-jung's wins tbh. That's a respectable, un-embarrassing roster.

Yuh-jung was, like the entire Minari cast, exquisite.

I don't think I have a problem with any of the top 6 with the obvious caveat that Nomadland didn't work on me. I am perfectly happy that Frances McDormand has joined the three acting Oscars club.

Also, the only best picture nominee that got scotched was Chicago 7, which, great!

so, I haven't actually seen Ma Rainey's Black Bottom yet, is it actually an injustice that Boseman didn't win this or did people just want him to win another posthumous oscar?

No injustice. Boseman, Hopkins and Ahmed were all phenomenal this year.

The last five best picture winners were:

Spotlight
The Shape of Water
Green Book
Parasite
Nomadland

The AMPAS is officially a schizophrenic organization.

Ope, sorry, Moonlight not Spotlight. Even more schizo.

Meanwhile, this one continues her descent down the J3ffr3y W3lls slide of anti-wokeness...

https://www.awardsdaily.com/2021/04/26/the-state-of-the-race-the-more-things-change-the-more-they-stay-the-same/

Tyler Perry’s speech was a plea for unity – the kind Joe Biden should be making and never has wherein he asks us not to hate each other – not to hate people for skin color, not to hate cops because they are cops – to meet him in the middle. It was powerful and memorable and exactly what this country, and this industry, needs.

...

The Academy was somehow making their whole show about appealing to the black community

Every nominee in Best Actor was good to great except Oldman. The Best Actress category equally solid.

Golden Derby's post-mortem:

On paper, it looked like it was Boseman’s to lose. The late star had won the Golden Globe, Critics Choice and Screen Actors Guild Award, losing just the BAFTA to Hopkins. Many had dismissed the BAFTA result as a home-field advantage win for Hopkins, who was probably sleeping like a baby in his native Wales when he won the Oscar, which I had cautioned against doing. The fact of the matter is, Hopkins’ tremendous, GOAT-level performance connected with a lot of people. Do a quick search on Twitter (well, wade past all the Oscar reactions) and you’ll see nothing but praise for Hopkins. Many of the anonymous Oscar ballots from the past week featured voters stating how much they were floored by Hopkins’ performance and that they voted for him. And lest we forget, Hopkins, now the oldest acting winner ever at 83, received all-time raves for his turn after “The Father” premiered at Sundance in January 2020, which admittedly is a lifetime ago, and was the early frontrunner almost all of 2020 until Boseman came along.

https://www.goldderby.com/article/2021/anthony-hopkins-2021-oscars-win-how-beat-chadwick-boseman/

Hopkins winning isn't really that much of a head-scratcher. Posthumous awards are actually generally pretty rare unless they're cloaked in as much mystique (and box-office) as Ledger's.

plus Boseman already has a posthumous oscar. I don't know why there was an assumption that he deserves a second one when up against equally great performances (I'm guessing, given that I didn't in fact see either Hopkins or Boseman's performances).

He did not have an Oscar going into last night. He had a Golden Globe, tho.

oh, fuck for some reason I thought he was given one for black panther. Maybe I am Anthony Hopkins in the Father.

The only posthumous wins: Ledger and Peter Finch's. Even goddamn Spencer Tracy lost in 1967. James Dean lost two posthumous performances.

Even Peter Finch's win it feels must've in part been attributable to the Academy not quite being able to stomach handing Sylvester Stallone an acting Oscar.

but they had William Holden ready to jump off the George Washington Bridge for it!

Oscars 1976: The Death Hour

It's official: https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/tv-ratings-oscars-2021-down-record-low-1234960615/

turns out i wasn't the only idiot who was sometimes confused about the new presenting format!

https://www.sfgate.com/streaming/article/2021-04-oscars-academy-awards-winners-drew-magary-16128432.php

we tuned into a random 15 minutes in the middle during some technical award and it was so weird and awkward and the nominees clearly hated having a camera jammed in their faces and dealing with the presenter's overly-familiar banter. It was all too ramshackle and post-apocalyptic for me. I'll take gross + gaudy Oscar pomp over whatever that was any year.

"People who are not performers sometimes look less composed on camera than people who earn their living on camera. Therefore, the pandemic is fake."

Tyler Perry’s speech was a plea for unity – the kind Joe Biden should be making and never has wherein he asks us not to hate each other – not to hate people for skin color, not to hate cops because they are cops – to meet him in the middle. It was powerful and memorable and exactly what this country, and this industry, needs.

Tyler Perry is an anti-union piece of shit who was given ten minutes to make an autohagiographic advertisment for his own shop. Fuck that.

(ten minutes to air, not to make. ygwim.)

sic, that first sentence isn't wrong but that second is a gross accusation and the "pandemic is fake" wasn't even hinted at in that post.

The Oscars should change format every year! The Billy Crystal version sucks too, just have producers come up with new versions instead of going back to till it again.

A pomp and self-importance version really wouldn't have played with this year's slate, the nominees-only sort-of-distanced format aside.

(I assume OL would not have taken that comedic escalation seriously. But it's silly to complain about something distractingly acknowledging a pandemic and attempting to minimise the direct risk it's creating, when we are essentially at the peak of the pandemic, imo. We live here!)

that Magary piece was fun, tyft vc

But it's silly to complain about

When has this ever stopped u

it's silly to post at all tbh