US Politics: July 2020 - "Denigrating this Luxury Avenue"

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Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

many are saying, the biggest yellow sign they've ever seen

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

It took me a long minute, but I finally sussed the Trumpian dog whistle in "denigrating".

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

they paved paradise and put up a lump of shit

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

I was kinda shocked you guys actually used it in the thread title, to be honest.

peace, man, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

"Denigrating this Luxury Avenue" is such uniquely Trumpian concern, a reminder that this 'man of the people' is just an old world moneybags twat.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

Eddy Grant's best song imo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

You've got style, that's what all the girls say
Satin sheets, and luxury so fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWtpd8mS5jw

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

Eddy Grant's best song imo

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:38 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

kudos

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

took it higher

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

the feeling is bad, the feeling is bad

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Disapproval of the job Donald Trump is doing as president is continuing to rise, with nearly 6 in 10 voters giving the president negative marks amid a new coronavirus surge throughout parts of the country, according to a new poll.

The latest POLITICO/Morning Consult survey, out Wednesday, found that Trump’s job approval sank to 39 percent, with 59 percent of voters disapproving. At the beginning of June, 41 percent of voters approved of the president’s job performance, while 55 percent disapproved.

The new, poor numbers for the president come as his chief rival for the presidency, former Vice President Joe Biden, opens up as much as a double-digit lead in some swing states in recent polling, with Election Day only four months away.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

I'm not quite ready to relax my crack (if only because, whatever else happens, I'm convinced that Barr will try to be a more intentional version of Comey at the 11th hour of this particular election cycle) but the last week or so has been the first time in four years that I've allowed myself to believe that Trump might actually lose and lose very very hard. Still, I could see him easily winning the votes of many people who are currently unhappy with his job performance because cognitive dissonance is still very much a thing.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

Also people gave W a second term

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

(I am very pointedly pretending I didn't read the phrase "relax my crack")

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

yeah i found myself pausing on that phrase and letting it marinate a little

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

In a non-fallen world, a terrible president who most people think is doing a terrible job and who responds to that assessment by consistently steering hard toward the impulses which make him terrible should be the easiest opponent in the world to clobber. But who even knows what 'electable' means anymore.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

U are welcome to marinate in my crack btw.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

brb, updating my Zazzle store

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

might make a good beach towel design - people love beach towels with muddy designs

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

In a non-fallen world, a terrible president who most people think is doing a terrible job and who responds to that assessment by consistently steering hard toward the impulses which make him terrible should be the easiest opponent in the world to clobber. But who even knows what 'electable' means anymore.

In a non-fallen world, a president like Trump ends up hung upside down in front of a gas station.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Polling is well and good, but the people who turn out for the election are the only ones who matter. This, by my reckoning, tilts the table heavily in favor of four more years of DJT.

We've already witnessed knuckle-dragger voter suppression tactics being used in this cycle in Georgia, Arkansas and Kentucky. (Hi Brian Kemp!)

Plus, rabid Trump supporters have recently doubled-down on selfish decision making, and have leaned into poor risk assessment as a matter of personal pride. Redder areas have shown a willingness to buck recommendations re. public health that (IME) bluer areas obey.

GOP leadership, the Q-aligned, and the fringy paranoid right, are already agitating about a stolen election. Knowing that any democratic victories are going to be contested by a sizeable group does *not* agitate iffy Biden voters to show up on voting day.

& racism & William Barr & Shelby County v. Holder & Biden

rb (soda), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

"marinate in my crack" sounds like a bad google translation of "denigrate this luxury avenue" fwiw

rb (soda), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

wait -- I thought the initial story about voter suppression in Kentucky was a mistake?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

What happened was a good faith effort by a Dem governor to expand the franchise by mail, and he cut a deal with the GOP secretary of state.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Kentucky was not voter suppression unless you think the Democratic administration was trying to rig things against themselves

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

Headaches aside I thought voter turnout has been *up* in a lot of recent elections.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

Georgia Democrats cast more than three times as many votes in the Senate primary as they did in 2016

we're going to have voting problems here, but turnout will not be one of them

Brad C., Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

A) Kentucky was, as described, not voter suppression but rather "keep the voters alive if possible"
B) Turnout is way up on the D side, up but not by nearly as much on the R side. Folks are invested in getting rid of Donald Trump.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

Quick google:

Lead re: GA: "Democrats cast close to a million votes in the Senate primary, more than triple the number in the 2016 primary."

Lead re: KY: "Kentucky's primary election turnout broke records before a single polling location opened Tuesday, but despite the high interest, in-person voting at limited polling locations seemed to flow smoothly."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

xpost

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

As I understand it, there was just one polling location for 600,000 Louisville voters that stayed open for a a WHOPPING 30 minutes extra to accommodate the overflow?

remy bean, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

(I am fully prepared to be wrong, but I'd gotten the story about Kentucky from a friend who worked on the Booker campaign). And apologies if I missed something re. Georgia, but isn't it well-established that Kemp ordered the rollout of an enormous batch of new voting machines w/ wildly insufficient training for clerks all around the state)?

remy bean, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

As I understand it, KY made a good effort to shift towards mail in voting and the lack of polling places was not in fact down to pure voter suppression as it has been elsewhere.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

This covers KY. https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/06/kentucky-the-day-after

dan selzer, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to imagine the batshittedness that is coming should one of these full on Q believers that made it past primaries end up in Congress.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Relax your crack old lunch!

calstars, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to imagine the batshittedness that is coming should one of these full on Q believers that made it past primaries end up in Congress.

Honestly, how much worse will it be than the current House, which has Jim Jordan and Louie Gohmert in it?

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

i'm more curious about who will be the first sitting representative to "join" the Q caucus

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

louie gohmert, for example. i'm surprised he's not already a loud Q advocate, it seems right up his alley

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

and Matt Gaetz xpost

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

Oh I'm well aware of the borderline cases we have already, but someone fresh coming into Congress more or less explicitly feeling like they have a mandate to represent as a Q supporter will really up the batshit levels.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

i read https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/upshot/poll-trump-defectors-2020-election.html so you don't have to

this is the good quote, don't bother with the rest

"I think if he weren’t such an appalling human being, he would make a great president"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

if only he weren't made of meat, he would be good horse fodder

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

let no-one marinate rent-free in your crack

bat ain't Thad (sic), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

The appalling human being thing, that's pretty weird. I occasionally look at that Ask Trump Supporters reddit board and a lot of his defenders are the opposite: he is an appalling human being, but I think he is a good president. A big number of posters there seemed to concede that if he stopped tweeting so much he'd have much higher numbers. But then, they are Trump supporters, so by definition think he is a good president.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

this is the good quote, don't bother with the rest

Sorry, but you're overlooking "He said he was going to, quote unquote, drain the swamp, and all he’s done is splashed around and rolled around in it"

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

Right, the "yeah, he could probably tone it down on Twitter, but that doesn't change my support" set is prevalent there.

1. Yes he's coarse and crude but he's doing what I want in government.

2. Yes he's sometimes overly thin-skinned but he's way better than Clinton (or Biden or any D alternative).

3. Yes, I wish he wasn't so childish on Twitter, but judges, economy, strong on immigration, etc.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

A month earlier than original scheduled ... several months after it was *actually* originally scheduled. It was originally supposed to be over by July 31.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

Fauci testifying in his baseball mask

Stevolende, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

this is also the first census where you can respond online so the self response rates are pretty discouraging. there was 68% response rate by mail/phone in april of 2010. plus, as mentioned, field ops are going to be very limited.

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

we responded twice online, myself and my wife. I assume they reconcile these things somehow.

akm, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

we can definitely count on this administration to add and subtract with precision

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 July 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

akm, did you both use your census ID?

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

to streamline wasteful government regulations and policies, this year everyone the same Census ID: AMERICA45

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

I wasn't going to fill out the census because I wanted to deprive my Republican district of one body but I gave in and did it online so I didn't have to dodge a door knocker (without a census ID because I threw away everything they mailed).

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

somehow it doesn’t surprise me at all that you had the cool idea to stick it to the man by not filling out the census

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

The census apportions money for a lot of government services used by the poor. It doesn't give the republicans more power to be counted, especially at the district level, compared to the state level.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

I wasn't going to fill out the census

This is unconscionable.

jaymc, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

i filled mine out....few months ago I think.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

"akm, did you both use your census ID?"

no idea but I assume so

akm, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

the census: pretty important

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

I wasn't going to fill out the census

as a one-time enumerator I feel personally attacked right in the heart music

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

if you don't have your ID on hand you could use your address instead. the match rates are pretty high but the internet self-response app was pretty generous as to what was accepted. there were responses from foreign addresses for instance

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

who the fuck doesn't have minutes to do this shit online?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Also, the mailer I received took ~5 minutes to fill out. Dropped it off at the post office box down the street while walking the dog on the same day I got it. There's legit no excuse for not doing it.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

But but but the census is from the government and it is made of 5G and will track your thoughts and fill you with demon sperm while making you go to Comet Ping Pong

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

Or you know the government is actively trying to kick me out of the country through the census

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

little known fact - the census was used for interning japanese-americans during WWII

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

So yes, again my hyperbole gets the better of me, but there are few reasons to not fill out the census.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

I filled it out but didn't use our real names - my wife and I are recorded as Adult Human Person 1 and Adult Human Person 2.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

Dumb question, but if the 2010 self-response rate was 74%, does that mean they had to have people personally contact the other 26%?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

Yeah, through a project called Non-Response follow-up

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

So that could be 80-90 million people? Woof.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

in 2010 they hired 650,000 enumerators to do that

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

"ma'am, what's your name?"

"Donna Rhia"

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

^^^ Reminds me of my all time favorite punk rock stage name - 45 Grave singer Dinah Cancer.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

Kusnher should be spit upon by every New Yorker that sees him. I hope they make it so bad him and the princess cannot live in their tower no more.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/928628/white-house-reportedly-scrapped-national-testing-plan-because-virus-mostly-hitting-blue-states

earlnash, Friday, 31 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

I also guess this is why I got a couple of media mail orders that got scanned in Lexington nearly a month ago and not moved since.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/postal-service-backlog-sparks-worries-that-ballot-delivery-could-be-delayed-in-november/2020/07/30/cb19f1f4-d1d0-11ea-8d32-1ebf4e9d8e0d_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most

I bet this is a big damn mess considering it makes total sense to cut hours when everyone in the f-ing country is doing mailorder more than ever.

earlnash, Friday, 31 July 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

cool another thing he can't do that'll languish in courts for months

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link

another thing he can't do

There's probably some overly broad law passed by a supine Congress that allows the president to declare TikTok a threat to national security, or an unfair competitor to US business, or some other vague bin it can be shoved into without much in the way of defined and measurable criteria. There are an amazing number of such laws and all it takes is a phalanx of assiduous lawyers searching the gazillion pages of the US law code to find some suitable fig leaf Trump can claim gives him that power.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

another good point pointed out by Aimless, thanks Aimless

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

oh well fuck TikTok anyway

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

We beat Obama 4 years ago, he worked harder than Crooked Hillary, and we’ll do it again! https://t.co/oaqnlkr7bW

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2020

this seems like one of the questions that would've been on the cognitive test

frogbs, Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link

he's referring to the peepee incident

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link

"Crooked Hillary"...dusting off the old chestnuts.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link

Banning TikTok might be the trigger to drive record 18-24 turnout.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 1 August 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link

be so good if Tik Tok helped ban him, probably going to happen anyway isn't it.
nice precedent from tulsa anyway.

Stevolende, Saturday, 1 August 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link

What's the real motivation behind the tik tok thing? I suspect it has little to do with security, or even China. Is it just another "I can do what I want" gesture, or merely trying to piss a certain demographic off? This is so bizarre

Ariana Grindr (rip van wanko), Saturday, 1 August 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link

Sarah Cooper's videos, probably.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 1 August 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/31/portland-protests-latest-peaceful-night-federal-troops-withdrawal

does this mean the americapocalypse is cancelled

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 August 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

dusting off the old chestnuts

Sounds like a euphemism

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 August 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

New month, new thread?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 August 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

still voting for The Country Is In Very Good Shape Other Than If You Look South or West

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 August 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

So many good options, sorry Morbs.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Saturday, 1 August 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link


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