Matt Levine’s Money Stuff

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Read too many issues and I want to work at a bank now

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

who is this dude?

sarahell, Friday, 11 November 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

A former investment banker (and before that I think an attorney!) who now explains finance (or cryptocurrency or Elon Musk) in a daily newsletter that is very entertaining and educational about finance and also financial crimes and securities fraud

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

how do I sign up for this entertaining thing!

sarahell, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

and it's free. sometimes a bit inside baseball but more often that not it's very educational & more entertaining than it has any right to be

yesterday's discussion of the FTX crypto meltdown was a classic

that's not my post, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

https://www.bloomberg.com/account/newsletters/money-stuff

xp

, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

I still don't get finance but I would very much like Levine to write a book to explain it to me instead of (I guess along with) dribbing and drabbing bits of it every time someone makes an oopsy. I don't understand how he is literally the only person on earth who can explain this stuff clearly, maybe because he tends to acknowledge how it's all games divorced from any real life value or Adam Smith fanfic.

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 11 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

laudatory nytimes article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/08/business/matt-levine-bloomberg.html

, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

Doctor Frances otm he makes it very clear one bit at a time how “capital flows” and “market formation” are in no small part epiphenomena of traders and salespeople doing their very boring jobs either well or poorly, and either honestly or dishonestly

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

he also has a great podcast voice (imo)

, Friday, 11 November 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

this is when he went from having my curiosity to having my attention

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2016-08-24/are-index-funds-communist

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 11 November 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/11/10/legoland-south-korea-bond-market-crisis/

bet he will write about this soon

, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

"FTX's Balance Sheet Was Bad" was incredible but I'm worried that he's not sleeping

death generator (lukas), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

Adam Neumann incinerated truly titanic amounts of investor money at WeWork Inc., which was bad, and got him removed as chief executive officer of WeWork. But it was also … impressive? And so if you are an investor, and Adam Neumann calls you and says “hey can you put money into my new thing,” you might think thoughts like:

1. I should take this meeting, it will be funny.
2. Adam Neumann has experience running a very large fast-growing business. Into the ground, yes, but not everyone has that experience.
3. Probably he learned some lessons and won’t incinerate my money.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

He was born to write about the FTX / SBF / WTF?! saga.

that's not my post, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

Let’s send him back in time to cover Enron and Lehman

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

I particularly enjoyed this digression in his October 31 dispatch:

"In Book XIV of the Tweetiad, a humble newsletter writer comes to Musk’s encampment and kneels before him, beseeching him to stop doing weird stuff every weekend and holiday, so that the newsletter writer may tend to his herds on the foothills of Mount Trollympus. And Elon Musk looks down upon the newsletter writer and says “lol no” and runs him through with a spear."

Vast Halo, Thursday, 17 November 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

This whole FTX story just keeps getting more and more incredible.

o. nate, Friday, 18 November 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

good save here

is there anyone who has ever described themselves as any harry potter house other than ravenclaw

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) November 18, 2022

i just want to be clear that this is about ftx, i haven't been hacked or whatever https://t.co/EbCSRzQltV pic.twitter.com/MY8Ek6Gqnf

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) November 18, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 18 November 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

All I am saying is that humans have been offering precious idols to divine powers for thousands more years than they have been building discounted cash flow models in Excel.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

The way that the modern US economy works is that if you want to buy a car from me, and I want to sell you the car, then you have to give me money, and I have to give you the car, and also we have to do a mysterious third thing in which we perform a magic ritual to coax my spirit to depart from the car so that your spirit may enter it. That magic ritual requires a bit of shaved unicorn horn, and for supply-chain reasons there is a unicorn-horn shortage, so no one can buy cars

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 12 December 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

honestly car titles might be a cool thing to put on the blockchain

, Monday, 12 December 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

as long as land title in the US continues to be based on musty old tomes in town hall basements I don't mind

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 12 December 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

has he sent out any columns in the past 2 weeks? i haven't seen anything.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

he has

, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

Thanks, guess I need to resubscribe

that's not my post, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

The basic situation in the US is that regulators — mainly, the US Securities and Exchange Commission — are pretty hostile to crypto, and if a crypto exchange comes to the regulators and says “how can I set up a full-service, innovative, but regulatorily compliant crypto exchange for US customers” the regulators will say “I’m so glad you came in, welcome,” and then throw them in a dungeon.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

thats what i would do tbf

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

lol

honestly my proudest achievement as a journalist, breaking a bank's machine-learning algorithm for summarizing the news https://t.co/aRhMXbpshp

— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) January 9, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 9 January 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

this jpmorgan / frank story is probably my fav story from the newsletter in a while

, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

She sent Frank’s Director of Engineering an email with a link to an article entitled “Generating Tabular Synthetic Data Using GANs.” The article notes that “the goal is to generate synthetic data that is similar to the actual data in terms of statistics and demographics.” The article suggests that “it’s fairly simple to use GANs to generate synthetic data where the actual data is sensitive in nature and can’t be shared publicly.”

she couldve just bought a list of real people who might as well have been frank customers and got away with the whole thing ffs! there are companies that exist to do exactly this sort of thing, just obfuscate the payment somehow and youre (maybe) home free

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

using the company email also obvs not wise

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

ah ok i see

If the email addresses were all fake, JPMorgan would notice immediately. So Frank allegedly went out and bought an email list:

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

i’d sell the ilx email list to jpmorgan

, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

$175 million for 4 million email addresses, thats like $40-50 an email. pretty good if you can get it. even her original real list of 300,000 would have been worth like $10 mil. but that’s not generational wealth i assume once you spread it out among the employees

, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link

the entire story is very silly on every level

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link

like the machine generated list part doesnt even make sense seems like she got the idea then at some point realized it was not going to work then bought a real list

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

its sad if they had been more focused on growing the list using fraud or growth hacking quasi fraud they couldve more gradually grown a more convincing less fake but still fake list from the beginning

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

My understanding of the situation is that JPMorgan likely would have let the entire thing slide under the rug, had Frank founder Charlie Javice not sued first.

incredible

, Friday, 13 January 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link

lmao thats wild

lag∞n, Friday, 13 January 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

Probably worth eating $175M (but apparently not $203M) not to publicize that the country's largest bank can be duped by a dopey millennial.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Friday, 13 January 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

My understanding of the situation is that JPMorgan likely would have let the entire thing slide under the rug, had Frank founder Charlie Javice not sued first.


Where is this quote from?

death generator (lukas), Sunday, 15 January 2023 05:22 (one year ago) link

axios pro rata newsletter (does not appear to be archived online)

, Sunday, 15 January 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

The power of files, everyone pic.twitter.com/idOPlSGqQc

— Aaron Levie (@levie) January 15, 2023

, Sunday, 15 January 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

come on

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 January 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link

me when i have exactly 2 to the 20th chums

mark s, Sunday, 15 January 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

I love the crime dial concept.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

It’s a very effective explanation

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 9 February 2023 05:41 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

"Kicking the nickel" should enter the global lexicon as shorthand for checking that digital realm stuff, when it's expected to be actually real, is actually real in the non-digital world. Endless uses...

that's not my post, Monday, 27 March 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

love matt

flopson, Monday, 27 March 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link

I still don't get finance but I would very much like Levine to write a book to explain it to me instead of (I guess along with) dribbing and drabbing bits of it every time someone makes an oopsy.

idk i hope he never writes a book and just does the newsletter forever. i would buy a huge collect money stuff multi-volume set tho

also... dribs and drabs? it's a firehose to the face

flopson, Monday, 27 March 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link

i wanna take this yale MBA course where every lecture is paired with a money stuff column

Here is my first draft of one (or more) Matt Levine newsletter articles that I will ask my MBA students to read before each class. I'll list the associated topic + class goal along with it.

If you don't know who @matt_levine is: https://t.co/JHBf4cygzc https://t.co/7UtyJQL086

— Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham (@paulgp) October 13, 2022


It's happening! https://t.co/7UtyJR39me pic.twitter.com/yGvrPr3nhC

— Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham (@paulgp) October 13, 2022

flopson, Monday, 27 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/04/sec-charges-founder-of-financial-aid-startup-frank-with-defrauding-jpmorgan/

a continuing own goal, really incredible

, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

irl lol at 'The very most important thing to understand in finance and economics is that when a person says “either the bank is lying or I am lying,” you must not give him your money!'

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:09 (eleven months ago) link

Lol I sent that section to my kids

that's not my post, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:35 (eleven months ago) link

reasonable point

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:12 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

good (money) stuff

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:01 (nine months ago) link

that piece about the M&A lawyers was hilarious. he should get a Pulitzer or something for his non-fiction humor / explainer columns

that's not my post, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:33 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, okay, raising the cost of capital for public oil companies, causing them to exit some wells, does open up possibilities for private companies, sure. But you've still raised the overall cost of capital for oil companies. That's good! Fewer investments will occur!

It was incredibly easy to beat Musk in court, says Musk, in court.

This is beautiful.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 13 July 2023 02:56 (nine months ago) link

this guys quibbling over $90m now, sad

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 July 2023 10:59 (nine months ago) link

four months pass...

i emailed matt a link to a story and it was in today's linkdump! very happy

, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:11 (five months ago) link

youre famous now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:18 (five months ago) link

whats the article

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:37 (five months ago) link

lol was it the story about Ray Dalio’s apartment

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:40 (five months ago) link

is the link dump a newsletter only feature i just read on the web because i dont like emails

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:43 (five months ago) link

yeah it's the article about the illegal ray dalio pergola

, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:50 (five months ago) link

the linkdump is just the 'things happen' section at the end

, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:51 (five months ago) link

ah

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:51 (five months ago) link

The illegal penthouse added 200,000 pounds of weight to the rooftop — the equivalent of 36 SUV’s.

this is helpful for me a common man of no exceptional schooling to have weight expressed in a unit i am familiar with, the famous suv

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:54 (five months ago) link

https://thevillagesun.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/468-W.-Bway-6.jpg

lmao this honestly doesnt look that bad to me, 200k lbs sounds worse

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:55 (five months ago) link

the condo building across from me has upstairs parking. as in, it's on the roof of the building, totally exposed, although this part of the roof was only a few stories above ground (the parking part surrounded the rest of the condo floors which extended up a few more stories). one day someone drove a car off the roof parking lot, i dunno how, maybe hit the gas pedal when they should have braked. the car fell a couple of stories to the basement parking lot next door! the driver walked away with only a few scratches. they were able to drive the car away and onto a tow truck even though it was all smashed!

anyway now imagine that was 36 SUVs and it was 10 stories up in the west village

, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:00 (five months ago) link

no wait, soho

, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:00 (five months ago) link

cant really relate to that since i have a car elevator like mitt romney

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:03 (five months ago) link

got an email about a potential future Money Stuff podcast the other day

flopson, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 22:23 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

excited about the podcast! he's got a very relaxing voice

, Thursday, 11 April 2024 18:06 (one week ago) link

voice for radio def, rare in the pod era of nasally guys laughing

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 18:40 (one week ago) link

one of my big youtube discoveries of the pandemic was a watch repair guy and at least 80% of the reason i watch his videos is he has a nice voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xasm3GFL7mM

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:00 (one week ago) link

ha used to watch that guy

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:02 (one week ago) link

feel like half of lockpickinglawyer's success is due to his voice

, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:05 (one week ago) link

Tension on one, anyway folks that’s all I have for you

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:06 (one week ago) link

haha i heard that in his voice :/

, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:09 (one week ago) link

Huh, I wasn't crazy about the Money Stuff trailer, he laughs at his own jokes a little too much (but then I suppose that's podcasts, and why I don't listen to 'em)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 April 2024 08:33 (one week ago) link

thought the pod was pretty good. it’s nice to hear matt’s voice. i’m not crazy about the co-host so far

flopson, Saturday, 13 April 2024 17:35 (one week ago) link

she gives me "grew up in stamford" vibes

, Sunday, 14 April 2024 02:55 (one week ago) link


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