Guy Maddin: C/D

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Crazy Canadian filmmaker. Dubs all dialogue. Most films look 50-70 years older than they actually are. Prefers style over substance. Wicked sense of humor.

I'd say most people probably either really hate him or really love him. Classic or dud?

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 21 November 2002 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

He always chooses a good bunch of those American football players.

Sorry. Remind me of some titles?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 21 November 2002 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tales from the Gimli Hospital
Archangel
Careful
Twilight of the Ice Nymphs

short films: The Heart of the World, The Dead Father

IMDB entry: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Maddin,+Guy

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 21 November 2002 20:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've only seen "Twilight of the ice nymphs" and I like its technicolour insanity. I certainly like the "idea" of him and would like to see more.

Tag, Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Incredibly successful moodiness is achieved in his films, particularly Gimli, and all the while there's a sly sense of humor, too.

"Careful" is maybe a good place to start.

I fell asleep during "Archangel" but that's not a criticism.

I'm going to see his newest this weekend, a filmed ballet of the Dracula story (which promises to be much better than the description sounds).

So: classic.

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 22 November 2002 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

seven months pass...
his new film, "dracula: pages from a virgin's diary," is really incredibly beautiful in spots. i must sleep now but i wonder if anyone else has seen it?

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 5 July 2003 05:54 (twenty years ago) link

Haven't seen it, but desperately want to (maybe I'll make the 5 hour drive to Nashville?) Here is the Zeitgeist Films page for it (which includes show dates):
http://www.zeitgeistfilms.com/current/dracula/dracula.html

Watched Heart of the World for about the millionth time last night - still utterly mindblowing. And finally watched Gimli Hospital with Maddin's commentary track, which is great - especially the part about immigrant Icelanders abandoning their children in favor of taking their books overseas, because they were that devoted to literacy. And it's interesting that Maddin has an obvious love for silent films, but he is also very critical of certain aspects; he wanted to express the "hate" of his love/hate relationship with early 1900s film by putting in that (very questionable) blackface minstrel. Maddin said that he was bracing for some harsh criticism, but it never came. And also, Maddin explains that he had to enlist 13/14 year old girls for the nurse roles; later on, there's a scene where one young woman removes her dress, and then Maddin says immediately, "SHE'S 18!!".

Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 5 July 2003 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

I've heard some criticism that Maddin disturbed the integrity of the ballet because, except for a few stray sequences, he cut the film into tiny little bits (it's cut faster than a contemporary Hollywood movie, almost approach heart of the world levels). I think that maybe 70% of the time the editing actually did a spectacular job of enhancing certain physical aspects of the dancing, albeit at the expense of that overall sense of awe one gets from watching a well-performed ballet in total. But one could hardly have expected a man like Maddin to perch his camera in the cheap seats and observe the ballet patiently like one of those PBS specials.

Interesting about the love/hate thing...where does the hate come from? Is it the gender politics (and politics in general) of many silent movies that bothers him?

This film like some of his others doesn't approximate a silent film so much as it is a evocation of the experience of watching silent films in the late 20th/early 21st century. Between the "missing frames," "degraded" footage and the hallucinatory montage that hovers on edge of incomprehensibility....

If you want to see a dracula movie that authentically and willfully hovers on the edge of incomprehensibility (and is stunning and beautiful to boot), see Dreyer's Vampyr. I actually had an entire dream the other night in which I tried to piece together its plot! And I hadn't actually seen it for several years!

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 5 July 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

Interesting about the love/hate thing...where does the hate come from? Is it the gender politics (and politics in general) of many silent movies that bothers him?

In that particular example, he was making a jab at the sometimes blatant racism in early 1900s film - which of course could backfire on him if people would confuse "racism" with "a statement about racism". In any case, it's really not easy to watch that scene. I'm not really sure Maddin is too concerned with gender politics, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 6 July 2003 06:24 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Hello, I am ignorant of Guy Maddin mostly, but I am excited about attending this and correcting that:

http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/pfa_programs/guy_maddin/index.html

All of his films (including a new one that Casuistry has seen, I think) and some obscure personal favorites. Please add comment!

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

you MUST see:

- 7th heaven
- la ronde
- the road to glory

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

la ronde is showing?!!? jealous!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

does he REALLY dub all dialogue? Wow!

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

And does he use a lot of Super 8?

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, he is very droll:

7:50 La Ronde
Introduced by Guy Maddin. An all-star French cast in Max Ophuls's elegant romantic roundelay, “a wistful tribute to syphilis.”—Guy Maddin

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

hahaha! love him

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Jealous! Yes, I just saw "Cowards Bend The Knee" last week, and it was pretty great. It showed with "The Heart Of The World", which had me all sorts of giddy.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 25 September 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

more good madden chit-chat:
come anticipate "the saddest music in world" with me!

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Saturday, 25 September 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

damn - 'maddin', obv.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Saturday, 25 September 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

We saw part of Cowards Bend the Knee at the Power Plant gallery in downtown Toronto as part of an installation featuring Winnipeg artists...except it wasn't shown as a whole film, it was shown in a number of chapters that you had to view on television monitors hidden inside a box, by looking through a peephole in the wall of one of the gallery's salons. It looked very good, but I have to admit that I only got to about part five before I got tired of hunching over in front of peepholes.

Tales from the Gimli Hospital is fun, too, and not only because I know one of the people who starred in it. (I also had an insane crush on her but that's another story.)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i have to admit that maddin's films kinda bore me.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 26 September 2004 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Sean, how did they deal with the soundtrack in the peep show version? (It's a silent film, but it does have a score of various famous classical movement pieces -- including a great use of the slow movement of Beethoven's 7th, a Chopin piece, the Erlkönig, etc.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 26 September 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link

It's been a while since I saw it, but I can't remember if there WAS a soundtrack for the peep show version. They may have run a loop over top of all of them simultaneously, but it may have been silent...I really can't recall. It would be better to see the final finished version either way, I suspect.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 26 September 2004 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Brand Upon the Brain! to finally roll out, w/ some live shows in SF, LA, Chi, NYC.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

YES!

lauren, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw it with Isabella at the NYFF. Maybe I'll watch the Foley artists some of the time, this time.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Brand! narrators announced: various in NY, Crispin Glover in Chicago, Joan Chen for the single SF show.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

CRISPIN GLOVER OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

impudent harlot, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

joe, did you know he's doing his slides and [i]What Is It?{/i] in Asbury Park this weekend?

I was thinking of going to his Brand! narr since I've heard Rossellini's already.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't! prob. can't go tho. i've seen his movie but not the slide show

impudent harlot, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Holy shit, John Ashbery.

C0L1N B..., Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I love love both Cowards and Saddest Music

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

well Brand! is v.v. similar template to Cowards (too much so if anything).

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

too bad it is not playing near me it seems.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Could we ask them to do it one month later, please?

Casuistry, Thursday, 3 May 2007 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link

It might still be running w/ a soundtrack when you get here, Chris.

I just realized I don't need to spend $30-40 on it a second time, so I'll wait for the non-live run as well.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Maddin on developing a screenplay with John Ashbery.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Ugh.

Casuistry, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Not a fan?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe he'll finally find something he's good at?

Casuistry, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually I liked "Girls on the Run" well enough. And one or two things from "The Tennis Court Oath". But overall... bleh.

Casuistry, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe JA's contribution will end up as unrecognizable as Kazuo Ishiguro's to Saddest Music?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Then I will be happy.

Casuistry, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Non-Anthology Special Offer: TONIGHT ONLY, 50% off GUY MADDIN’S BRAND UPON THE BRAIN! THE LIVE SHOW
at the Village East Cinemas, 181 2nd Avenue at 12th Street
For tonight’s 7:00 & 9:30 performances only, Anthology Email Newsletter subscribers get 50% off the ticket price at the door.
Use the code word “ANTHOLOGY” for your discount.
Details about the program here:

http://branduponthebrain.com/

C0L1N B..., Monday, 14 May 2007 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Brand Upon The Brain flew off the rails about 15 minutes in. I really wanted to like it and I dug the live orchestra and sound foley, but it fails as a movie. It would have been great as a half-hour long piece, but it was so obviously padded out with reused footage and gratuitous boobage and wangage that I went through several layers of "hurry up and get to the point where I know what's going to happen is going to happen."

Pluses: the foley people and Barbara Steele as the narrator.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 June 2007 06:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, I find the boobage and assage essential to contemporary b&w "silents." It might be 15 mins too long, but Cowards Bend the Knee was slighter.

how "reused" footage?

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 9 June 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

how "reused" footage?

Just a lot a repeated shots. Guy strumming the reeds. Evil mom's eye. I was ready to shout "FUCK. WE GET IT ALREADY"

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 June 2007 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

It's called "montage," you might wanna see it in some '20s films.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 10 June 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

It's finally playing near Boston at the end of the month, so I am going to see this.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 10 June 2007 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Barbara Steele as the narrator, colour me JEALOUS

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 10 June 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Really like his essay for I Married a Witch: http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2924-i-married-a-witch-it-s-such-an-ancient-pitch

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

new one looks amazing! title change from Seances, per s1ocki above?

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-sundance-berlin-2015-guy-maddins-the-forbidden-room

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link

sounds great

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link

wow! cool!

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link

no wait, Seances is a diff film, missed that in first graf

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 January 2015 02:55 (nine years ago) link

Kino Lorber to release in the fall

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 February 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link

Sparks! excited

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link

fuck fall! want it now >:[

A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 6 February 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link

Interview with GM and co-director Evan Johnson:

Fragoso: Have you both seen The Grand Budapest Hotel?

Johnson: Yep.

Maddin: When I first heard of ‘The Grand Budapest,’ I was worried.

Johnson: When we first saw it we were worried and a little horrified, because it begins nested. Right off the bat.

Maddin: (Laughs.) And I thought holy shit, ‘That fucker! That fucker Wes Anderson!’ We had been working on this for years and this fucker who already has a fan-base of hundreds of millions of people—and a coffee table book that’s through the roof….

But I only said ‘fuck Wes Anderson’ because I was scared he made the movie that we just finished ruining our lives making. When I went to see it, obviously, we were sloppy and all over the god damn place and he’s so formally pure.

Fragoso: Your lives are ruined?

Johnson: No, no. Not at all. We’re fine.

Maddin: No, not at all. I’m just used to taking regular rests, and I had to work hard to make this movie. So my routine was destroyed.

Johnson: It was financially difficult.

Maddin: Yeah and we went into overtime making this thing, so the money ran out a long time ago. So we’re struggling financially, but we’ll be okay.

Fragoso: It’s good to know you two won’t be homeless.

Maddin: It’s a grand tradition of filmmakers to go broke. Douglas Sirk was a bean farmer halfway through his career for awhile.

Fragoso: So that’s your next move.

Johnson: We’re doing it.

Maddin: We are farming beans.

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/maddin-johnson

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

John Ashbery & GM, coming to a NYC gallery this month

http://www.tibordenagy.com/exhibitions/john-ashbery-and-guy-maddin/

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

it's got movie stars

<iframe src='http://www.kinolorber.com/trailer_embed.php?id=2056' height='276' width='455' frameborder='0'></iframe>

http://www.kinolorber.com/film.php?id=2056

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 September 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

that is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwKvz-wA3I0

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 September 2015 04:07 (eight years ago) link

and it's 130 minutes long! Slant rave:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-forbidden-room

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 September 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

It definitely feels very very long. Didn't much care for it, but it has some good scenes.

Frederik B, Friday, 25 September 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

he also has this whatzit short (playing on a loop at NYFF, free, the next 2 days)

http://www.filmlinc.org/nyff2015/films/bring-me-the-head-of-tim-horton/

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

not in my top 5 GM either, but very astonishingly busy.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link

this guy is so boring :(

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

Udo!

Maddin's one of those guys where I watch his stuff and am baffled at how it's done

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:24 (eight years ago) link

i guess i just find a lot of his stuff so strenuously "wacky" and totally lacking in actual fun. "heart of the world" is cool, though.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

also Jacques Nolot and Geraldine Chaplin (manically cracking a whip) show up

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

i laughed aloud at least 6-8x, incl at half a joke about a woman in a bathtub.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

did you guys see it in 3d/should I? I've hated most 3d films I've seen

BAN ALCOHOL (wins), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

i laughed aloud at least 6-8x, incl at half a joke about a woman in a bathtub.

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 3:04 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I LOLd hard at the woman in a bathtub joke, not gonna lie.

I liked the movie quite a bit, though it has less resonance than My Winnipeg. I feel like complaining about the lack of resolution to the plot is miles away from the point, but damned if I didn't start to care about what was gonna happen to those guys in the sub.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

In “The Green Fog — A San Francisco Fantasia,” commissioned by San Francisco Film Society and set to close the San Francisco International Film Festival’s 60th edition on April 16, Maddin and co-directors Evan and Galen Johnson explore what Maddin has called “a rhapsody” on the Hitchcock movie. Set to an original score by composer Jacob Garchik that will be performed live by the San Francisco-based Kronos Quartet, the 63-minute “The Green Fog” reimagines the movie through an assemblage of old studio movies and TV shows.

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/04/vertigo-remake-guy-madden-the-green-fog-interview-1201805968/

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/guy-maddins-green-fog

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

This was fine, but had way more Chuck Norris and "McMillan and Wife" than I anticipated.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link

how did I miss this last year? ... oh yeah, I'm always working 70+ hour weeks when the SF Film Festival is going on

sarahell, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I'll leave you for the night on an upbeat note! Here's the best scene of 2018: the sequence in Guy Maddin's The Green Fog in which a 'stache-less Chuck Norris sits in for the stretch of Vertigo where Scottie deals with the "death" of "Madeleine" https://t.co/ZkwlpF1tm7

— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) January 28, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Just saw The Green Fog at Glasgow Short Film Festival and absolutely loved it. It's bewildering and completely hilarious - I cried with laughter at a few points. I've never actually seen Vertigo, but that turned out not to hamper my enjoyment at all.

brain (krakow), Sunday, 17 March 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

Mark McKinney as Chester Kent in The Saddest Music in the World looks totally like Preston Sturges.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

And Isabella Rossellini's performance seems to be channelling both her mom and Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

Although "Cast of" video says her character is tribute to Lon Chaney.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

And Mark McKinney made own decision to grow a mustache and "sew a merkin on his forehead."

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

Every one of these instrumentalists was thrilled to be a part of Maddin's delightful jape.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

In just the nick of time Maria's scenes are completed, and she is duly whisked away to the aeroporto.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

But young Maddin is convinced the colder the actors are, the more piquant their histrionics.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

Obviously the Vaseline is a big element, we've used barrels of it on this film.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

I don't use standard Vaseline, I use Lip Therapy Vaseline.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

Like a rail-riding hobo, another film shoot has come and gone.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

Watching this carefully keep seeing things I want to assume are references to other films:
when Roderick/Ross McMillan shows Fyodor/David Fox the photo of his wife reminds me a scene in The Shop Around the Corner, when Felix Bressart recognizes Margaret Sullavan and avoids telling Henry Fonda, or when Fyodor makes his speech before his contest performance he says "raging ocean" just like Jack Benny saying "outrageous fortune" in To Be or Not to Be.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link

Or Isabella's wig slip being reminiscent of Blue Velvet.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

DO U SEE?

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

new:

Stump the Guesser

(19 minutes)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7WGvBEAhSt/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 January 2020 15:12 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Most of these streaming on the Criterion Channel right now.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

But not all. Don't see The Heart of the World for one.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link

So The Green Fog rolled in last night and totally hit the spot.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 March 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

How can I see some of Maddin’s most recent shorts? I live in the US.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

Thought this would be an RIP Louis Negin revive.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link


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