Americans are more popular with Brits now than at any time in past 30 years

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Why we like the Americans more and more

Gavin Esler


SINCE George W Bush became president, we all hate Americans now, right? Wrong. Dead wrong. And even, I would suggest, dangerously wrong. Despite reports about a rise in anti-Americanism in Britain, and despite the way in which many British people seem to regard President Bush as either a figure of fun or the leader of the world’s most dangerous Rogue State, British people continue to like and respect Americans and American values.

According to a MORI poll published in the past week, Americans are now liked by more people in Britain than at any time in the past three decades. Four Britons out of five - a whopping 81 per cent of us - agree with the statement "I like Americans as people". This is a big jump from the 69 per cent who agreed with those views in 1989 and 1991 and the mere 66 per cent back in 1986, when the Cold War was in its dying stages and Ronald Reagan was still president. Today, only 11 per cent of us admit to disliking Americans as people.

But the poll is even more interesting when the details are spelled out. The British seem more or less evenly split when asked whether we can learn a great deal from the US. Half of us agree, 44 per cent disagree. (Personally, I think we can learn endlessly from America - including how to do things better than they do - such as regulating out-of-control business practices in Enron and Arthur Andersen.)

Yet despite this affection, only one in five of us would actually like to be more American, and only one in four would be content to live in the US. When asked which is more important to Britain: the continent of Europe, the US or the Commonwealth, then British people are clear-sighted. Europe is regarded as most important by 50 per cent of us, America by 29 per cent and the Commonwealth 19 per cent. The Commonwealth retains the affections of older Britons, but not the youngest among us. The MORI survey also notes that it would not be Britain if there was not a class divide. Those in middle-class occupations tend to think Europe is more important. Those in working-class occupations tend to think the US is more important.

So what can we conclude from all this? The big picture would appear to be that the British people have their heads screwed on - as usual. We have a very clear perception that whoever happens to be in power in the White House, and whatever we might think of individual US policies towards Iraq, Israel or the environment, America is a country that we like enormously. Second, even those of us who love America still prefer our own small corner of the globe. And third, whatever reservations we might have about the EU, the British assume that the destiny of these islands is intimately connected to that of the continent of Europe. MORI’s American-born chief in London, Bob Worcester, draws his own personal conclusion.

"The moral to this story," he writes, is: "Don’t believe everything you read in the Guardian."

STILL on the subject of polls - and on not believing everything you read in the Guardian - I note in Monday’s edition of that august newspaper a rather idiosyncratic interpretation of important polling results. A Guardian/ICM poll found that there has been a seven-point shift in support in favour of military action against Iraq. At the beginning of this month, 32 per cent of British people approved of a military attack. Now the figure has jumped to 39 per cent. Amazing. But what is even more amazing is that this, the biggest shift in opinion recorded on the subject, was buried by the Guardian in the middle of an article which began on a completely different tack.

"Two-fifths of British voters remain opposed to military action against Iraq," the Guardian analysis of its own poll begins. Curious. The first eight paragraphs are devoted to what has not changed. The figure which has changed dramatically is in paragraph nine. A mysterious oversight, no doubt, in failing to give prominence to increasing British public support for US policy.

MEANWHILE, a relative brings me a cautionary tale from the world of British amateur golf. This week, he and his friends were ready to tee off at a small golf club when an elderly fellow-golfer arrived, took his new set of clubs from the car and placed them on his trolley in the car park. Then the old man went into the club house to change. As he did so, another car came into the car park. A man opened the boot , threw the golf clubs inside, and drove off. Police investigating the theft immediately recognised the car from CCTV footage and set off to arrest a familiar local drug addict and petty thief.

As an innocent in these matters, I am not sure how you would go about converting a four iron, putter or pitching wedge into heroin or cocaine, but I assume there must be some kind of rate of exchange.


Gavin Esler is a presenter on BBC News 24.

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 08:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Yorktown

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 November 2002 09:37 (twenty-three years ago)

What's an "American"? A New Yorker? Someone from LA? A Midwesterner? A Southerner? Are there qualities that are quintessentially American? I mean, this is a pretty diverse country.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 30 November 2002 10:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes but it means our perception of 'americans' doesnt it? america has the trick of diversity and unity at the same time. plus, dont forget, all countries appear more diverse to their inhabitants, and more homogenous to outsiders.

i'm not sure what the point in this article is. i dont see any change. brits have always liked americans but not wanted to become more american. and despite antipathy to the idea of 'europe', we feel more european than american (apart from the anti-europe right wing).

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 30 November 2002 11:16 (twenty-three years ago)

"I like Americans as people"!!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, it reads as if you are emphasising that last bit, prefatory to explaining that everything else is wrong with them.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:27 (twenty-three years ago)

american accents = sexy

(well, some anyway)

michael (michael), Saturday, 30 November 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Sexiest American accent is the southern one that Mary Jo or whatever she is called has in The Man Who Fell To Earth (But Didn't Make It Catch Fire While The Firefighters' Dispute Remained Unresolved)

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Awwwwwwwwwwww.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I have been realizing over the past year or so that I like the British. They are one of the most irreligious countries going and they have lots of sex. (Drink too much though.)

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)

You've forgotten the cigarettes and the drugs. We smoke in the street and everything.

Anna (Anna), Saturday, 30 November 2002 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)

American accents are sexy? Dammit, I've got to stop hanging out with Ed, I'm starting to pick up his accent, and then I won't be sexy any more. I'll have to have diction lessons with Suzy all day long...

kate, Saturday, 30 November 2002 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

anna, everybody smokes on the streets

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 30 November 2002 21:56 (twenty-three years ago)

If you smoke in California, people give you a look. Especially in the San Francisco/Oakland/Berkeley area. Like, "why are you such a rude, self-destructive asshole?" It's pretty cute.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 30 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

er... not really.

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

indeed, Gareth: likewise, the fact that those who can remember when we had an Empire and before we joined the Common Market etc etc feel more affinity with the Commonwealth is not the sort of thing you need an opinion poll to prove, you can just *sense* it.

the thing that always gets left out of this sort of discussion is that there used to be a strong anti-American vein within the Conservative movement, related to wider cultural ideas of "the British character", "restraint", "politeness" etc and the idea that US influence would erode it. that it's been forgotten so quickly is a sign of the potency of Thatcherism, as a force capable of eroding people's memory of what came before it.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 1 December 2002 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Robin, yes. Apropos of nothing: it may be my recent visit to the States but for some reason I haven't been able to get that Thatcher line about "our great car economy" out out of my mind.

(Some of the people who spent time with me in NYC were regaled with the story of one of my oldest friends, who visited New York in the early 90s. He loved it and hatched a plan to make London more like (I guess) Manhattan. The plan consisted of upping the quantity of litter he dropped from his car window, and sounding his car horn more.)

The Americans I met in the US were pretty much uniformly great = Americans are more popular with me than at any time in the past 30 years.

Tim (Tim), Sunday, 1 December 2002 02:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder what the reverse poll would look like? I bet it would be overwhelmingly positive. Americans go crazy for british accents.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 1 December 2002 02:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Only the ones you don't want to know.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 02:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I think this is stupid.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you're stupid.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 02:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Americans are more popular than Jesus Christ.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I think stupid.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm with stupid.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:42 (twenty-three years ago)

seriously, though. and I've been getting serious a lot lately.

everyone I know that doesn't know any americans/haven't ever been to america HATES americans/america.
and some people I know that know a couple of americans/have been to america a bit HATE americans/america. except the ones they know/the places they've been.

it's just so silly!!

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 03:46 (twenty-three years ago)

the americans i met=greatest people ever!

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 1 December 2002 04:34 (twenty-three years ago)

First time I went to America, I was hit on more in two weeks than in any year of my life in Britain. As much as any decade, almost => Americans are great!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 1 December 2002 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

The only time I ever get hit on is if I leave my time zone. Anyhow, yeah, I think a lot of Americans are stupid, but I don't think it has anything to do with them being American. And yeah, I have noticed that the people who hate Americans & America have never been here, nor met a decent American--only witnessed obnoxious American tourists standing on the wrong side of the escalator. I think pretty much every American loves anything having to do with Britain, even Hugh Grant. My sister was lamenting the other day that she wants to have kids so badly--but not just regular kids, she wants BRITISH kids. Too much Harry Potter.

Mandee, Sunday, 1 December 2002 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't mean to imply that british children are not "regular." You know what I mean.

Mandee, Sunday, 1 December 2002 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, all British children are exactly like Harry Potter.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 1 December 2002 18:42 (twenty-three years ago)

harry potter:unnamed british newborn

john doe:unidentified american dead person


mandee makes a good point which is much like mine.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 December 2002 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Are all little British girls like Hermione?

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 1 December 2002 23:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Look at this tangle of thorns.

Mandee, Sunday, 1 December 2002 23:46 (twenty-three years ago)


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