Ann Coulter needz 2 get Cockfarmed; this is her thread!!

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Well, as I started a DeRogatis thread on ILM I couldn't resis this one. Please discuss her/her blinding-blonde hairstyles HERE - ALL THINGS COULTER, ALL THE TIME.

I went to her website (anncoulter.org, i believe?) recently, I read the whole interview in the "extras" section, i got really, really scared. AS a lightly brown person, it just makes me feel weird, or my stomach does little queasy jumps, to see her fan clubs and mailing lists and everything - am I wrong to fear her "growing poopularity," or is this still just a post-9/11 phase where people can get write things like "we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert their people to christianity" and still get cheered on by bob novak, et. al, for more than a year later for their "bright and clear thinking" ? Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetra

Vic, Friday, 13 December 2002 21:49 (twenty-three years ago)

is this still just a post-9/11 phase where people can get write things like "we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert their people to christianity" and still get cheered on by bob novak, et. al, for more than a year later for their "bright and clear thinking" ?

Publicly voicing this sort of attitude had been taboo for a generation until 9/11. However, during the time when it was politically incorrect to say this plenty of people quietly believed it, and therefore respond favorably to Ann Coulter and her ilk.

I don't know how dangerous it is that so many people are supporting her. I think the public hesitation to go to war in Iraq suggests that most Americans don't literally want to hands-on take control of other countries. On the other hand, the various flocks associated with the right wing are frighteningly well organized when it comes to domestic issues--I hate to see them get Coulter as their poster girl.

Now what I really wonder about was the Moslem guy whom Coulter dated after 9/11 and after she'd made the first of her anti-Moslem statements. What on earth was going through that guy's head?

j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 13 December 2002 22:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm all in favor of her rising to prominence, as -- per discussion on the Trent Lott thread -- she's one of those on the far-right who simply can't keep herself from blurting out, in the most horrific terms possible, what everyone fears conservatives actually think or believe. This makes some conservatives love her, obviously -- "she has the guts to say what needs to be said." And it makes me love her, because she serves as a wonderful counter to politics of the right as they're made to look legitimate by something like Fox News: she reveals the strains of conservative thought and attitude that people like me are most appalled by, and I do think the mainstream takes notice.

She's also, it might as well be said, an appalling thinker: if I were a serious conservative she's absolutely the last person I'd want defending any of my beliefs. It's the sloppiness of her approach, really, that brings her around to blurting out those stridently absurd conclusions, such as her contention that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. (Apparently the appropriate role of women in the home, which is to spend and nurture as opposed to earn and discipline, makes them unable to understand the cost of government -- hence their vote for liberals and social programs. Her argument on this point proceeds from the premise that anyone who votes for a Democrat is too dumb to be allowed to vote.)

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 13 December 2002 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate to see them get Coulter as their poster girl.

I think some have already adopted her as such, or want to project that onto her. Charles Taylor discussed this in his salon.com review for her book.

Now what I really wonder about was the Moslem guy whom Coulter dated after 9/11

Now I did not know anything at all about this - seriously, where can I find info on it? Maybe she dated him thinking it would lead her to some huge terroristic leak that she could report to the NSA.

Vic, Friday, 13 December 2002 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco - is there any congruence to her opinion re: female voting then, and her OWN right to vote? Has she publicly said she'd renounce her own vote, then? It makes no sense. Why isn't she a *mother* yet then, in the home - why and how is she an "intellectual" ?

She's also, it might as well be said, an appalling thinker: if I were a serious conservative she's absolutely the last person I'd want defending any of my beliefs.

Yes, many conservative (or, as she'd call them "spineless moderates" - apparently anyone to the left of ted nugent is too liberal for her) reviewers of her book, for example, echo these sentiments on amazon.com. Exactly what was she trying to prove by writing Slander anyway: hurling invective at the "liberal media" to make the point that they _don't like to be slandered by gonzo-right freaks like her_, or, ahem, are *biased* against the right? It's like denouncing child abuse by smacking your kids until they're blue - she throws insult after insult on every page, and expects to gain sympathy from centrists that the lefty-media is too mean to right-wingers.

There used to be some site, called Ihateanncoulter or something, which had all of her quotes up from her television. I'll have to find it, some too funny to paraphrase

Vic, Friday, 13 December 2002 22:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Ann Coulter is a fucking disgrace to the legal profession. Her books are total shit, and she is total shit. She cloaks her nasty, ignorant views behind the fact that she's a lawyer -- all the better to fool people. Though when she's paired against another lawyer, she is made to look like the fucking fool that she is (I remember a talk-show during Monicagate where Alan Dershowitz tore her a new asshole without trying very hard).

I really wish other lawyers -- conservative as well as liberal -- would come out and denounce her. There is no excuse for her and her antics, none.

Tad (llamasfur), Friday, 13 December 2002 22:55 (twenty-three years ago)

And her books have zero credence in any American law school. In fact, there's no better way at any law school to make yerself look like a total ass than to cite Ann Coulter as an authority for anything. And this even includes the conservative law schools. Not even the Federalists would touch her.

Tad (llamasfur), Friday, 13 December 2002 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco - is there any congruence to her opinion re: female voting then, and her OWN right to vote? Has she publicly said she'd renounce her own vote, then? It makes no sense.

Vic, if you think I can introduce logical consistency to a Coulter statement you are severely overestimating my powers of reason. My best guess is that she thinks she's special.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 13 December 2002 23:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is there any congruence to her opinion re: female voting then, and her OWN right to vote? Has she publicly said she'd renounce her own vote, then? It makes no sense. Why isn't she a *mother* yet then, in the home

Political history is full of conservative women who lived long public lives during which they advocated that women stay at home and care for their children instead of a career. Does being a Republican excuse one from logic?

j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 13 December 2002 23:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Does being a Republican excuse one from logic? Evidently, yes, and rationality and truthfulness and kindness and virtue and fairness and loveliness, too. But I like her highlights, sometimes.

Wuz she really dating a Muslim?

Vic, Saturday, 14 December 2002 01:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you thinking of the site anticoulter.com?

From the New York Observer:

I’d told her I’d heard she’d dated a Muslim guy.

"Yeah, cat’s out of the bag on that one. That was after having him checked out by the F.B.I." She laughed.

j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 14 December 2002 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

She was recently the subject of an impressively sizeable flame war on another ng I read. Someone finally posted, after many back and forth flame threads: "Um...why are we talking about this Neanderthal again? She's like Pat Buchanan with bigger tits."

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 14 December 2002 02:57 (twenty-three years ago)

For the past few years Buchanan has made way more sense than she has.

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 14 December 2002 03:00 (twenty-three years ago)

She can subpoena me anytime she likes! Rowwwrrr!

dave q, Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:38 (twenty-three years ago)

And Pat Buchanan has much bigger tits than Ann Coulter.

Kris (aqueduct), Saturday, 14 December 2002 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...
Lord. This is from the MSNBC gossipy thing:

Ann Coulter has added fat to the fire in her long-running assault on Hillary Clinton by making fun of the senator and former first lady’s weight on national television.
THE RIGHT-WING PUNDIT was on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Tuesday, discussing her new book “Treason” — which argues, among other things, that commie witch-hunting Sen. Joe McCarthy was right.
“You’re going to be on the New York Times best-seller list, slugging it out against Hillary Clinton,” Sawyer commented, according to the GMA official transcript.
“I hope so,” replied Coulter.
“Who is going to win?”
“I think she has a three-to-one pound advantage over me,” said Coulter, “but we’ll see.”
“Three to one pound?” asked the normally unflappable Sawyer. “Did you say what I think you said?”

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

What a class act. I look forward to Ann Coulter's funeral.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

If that's the first thing that comes to mind when taking a shot at Hillary Clinton, you are sad sad sad.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, this coulter lady sounds terrible. probably even worse than littlejohn over here in the uk.

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

At this point, the utter HATRED the right wing still has for the Clintons is at least amusing.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

*takes out duct tape*

*tapes up mouth*

*tapes right hand to chair*

*sits on left hand*

*squirms*

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Kinky.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i tried reading the new book Treason last night, but it's so childish, shrill, and transparent that i couldn't force myself through any more to dissect her lies. Someone has to count the number of times she uses the word "liberals" as it might be the most time it has ever been used in any book ever.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

she lost me when she referred to bob guccione jr, whom she'd dated, as "arm candy".

dan (dan), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

You should all read David Brock's book "Blinded by the Right" - it's pretty juicy.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

1. At the most basic level, the liberal is an adolescent forever in search of a world without moral consequence. 
2. Freedom from moral consequence can only be secured by a collectivist, totalitarian state.
3. The liberal religion reveres the twin gods of genitals and government, and is overseen by a priesthood of psychologists.
4. "Freedom" to the liberal is strictly freedom of the genitals.  
5. All non-sexual  individual freedoms are despised by the liberal because they demand moral responsibility.
6. The fundamental power struggle of the liberal is individual v. collective.    The individual must be relieved of all power in favor of the collective.
7. Individualism demands moral responsibility.  Collectivism hopes to eliminate the need for moral responsibility.
8. The U.S. Constitution - specifically the individualistic Bill of Rights - is the enemy of the liberal.
9. The liberal despises the United States because it is the premier gaurantor and promoter of individualism in the world.
10. All institutions and concerns - schools, environment, courts, etc. - serve no relevant purpose other than the promotion of collectivism.
11. Abortion is necessary to gaurantee genital freedom and eliminate moral consequence.
12. The basis of psychology is the elimination of moral responsibility.
13. The liberal must create an atmosphere of crisis and fear to justify collectivist oppression.
14. Any religious person who believes or promotes moral consequence is the enemy of the liberal and must be oppressed.
15. Despite decades of spectacular failure, the liberal clings to the collectivist dream because it is far more than a theory of government.  It is a religion.
17. The liberal seeks to dominate any institution which can weaken or destroy individual parental rights - public schools, child abuse agencies, pediatric associations, etc..
18. The liberal applauds the imprisoning of homeschooling parents who dare to raise their children outside the control of collectivist public schools.
19. Private ownership of guns is the single greatest symbol of individual power, and therefore despised.
20. All individual freedoms demand the responsible behaviour of the individual, and therefore demand a moral code.    Liberals despise freedom because they despise morality.
21. The liberal loves Bill Clinton because of who he is, not in spite of who he is.
22. The liberal despises national sovereignty which protects individual freedoms.
23. The liberal promotes international governments (UN, EU, etc.) which seek to destroy individualism protected by sovereign states.
24. The liberal fears any hint of individualism in any part of the world, and is obsessed with the centralized control of all human activity and thought.
25. "Multi-culturalism" is the code world for a single, oppressive, collectivist culture.
26. Liberals speak often of tolerance, but only tolerate liberals.
27. The liberal seeks to criminalize any speech which promotes morality or individualism as "hate speech".
28. Environmentalists lie as a matter of course.
29. The liberal's only method of debate is to insult and discredit anyone who dares to disagree.
30. When possible, liberals opress anyone who questions their beliefs.
31. Liberals despise all innocence - especially the innocence of a child.
32. Liberals seek the sexualization of children and the normalization of pedophilia, all in the pursuit of genital freedom.
33. In the liberal mind, your freedom is their oppression.
34. Private property and individual wealth is integral to individualism, and the enemy of the liberal.
35. The liberal hates you.
36. The liberal seeks to replace a moral world view with an emotional world view.
37. The liberal typically chooses a career which produces nothing of value - lawyer, bureaucrat, "activist", etc. - and uses government to extract the wealth of others.
38. Liberal programs enrich liberals and do little to help the poor.
39. The liberal despises masculinity as a symbol of individual power.
40. Feminists groups are about lesbianism and socialism, not equal rights for women.
41. Liberals are perfectly willing to destroy you financially, remove your children, and imprison you for what you believe.
42. Liberals fear technology and change - because neither can be centrally controlled.
43. Liberals are not obsessed with sex, but with promiscuity.   Promiscuity is the dominate theme of the liberal media culture.
44. Liberals despise the suburbs as a manifestation of individual prosperity, private property ownership, and the family.
45. Liberals despise marriage and family because they are institutions which frown on promiscuity.
46. Liberals despise the automobile as a symbol of individual freedom and power.
47. Liberals seek to control public schools, and force all children into them, in order to foster promiscuity and collectivist ideology in children.
48. Other diseases kill millions more, but liberals are obsessed with Aids because it is a moral consequence of  promiscuity.
49. Liberals are more committed than conservatives because their politics is also their religion.
50. Liberal activities are all about ego - to demonstrate "I care more than you do" without really helping anyone.
51. Whenever a liberal expresses concern "for the children", they are using and targeting children to expand promiscuity, collectivism, and their own pocketbooks and egos.
52. Because collectivist politics is their only morality, liberals have no problem with deceit, oppression, or violence in their pursuit of collectivism.
53. Liberals are elitests who exempt themselves from the oppressive rules they impose on the general population.
54. Liberals howl if a transvestite or convicted felon is even slightly offended, but openly bash Christians.
55. Liberals dream of a return to a centralized, 1940's urban environment.   We all ride the bus from a small, dirty, big city apartment to an 8-5 union job.
56. Liberals believe that wealth is static - anyone who makes money must be stealing it from someone else.
57. Liberals claim to be against violence, but makes excuses for liberals like Castro who torture political dissidents.
58. Liberals have enormous compassion for criminal predators, but little for the victims.
59. Animal Rights activists despise humanity.
60. Liberals believe that passing religious values to children is a form of child abuse.
61. Liberals use moralistic tones and catch-phrases like "social justice", but  their only moral is the accumulation of power
62. Liberals ideologies tend inevitably towards world-wide totalitarianism.
63. Liberals are never satisfied with the power they have gained over the lives of individuals - they must control every thought and detail of human activity.
64. In the liberal world, all problems stem from individualism, and all solutions are collective.
65. Liberals are humourless bores.
66. Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaderick. Liberals don't care.
67. Bill Clinton used the IRS to oppress conservative political speech. Liberals admire him for it.
68. Scientists are obsessed with "life on other planets" to confirm the full theory of evolution. The alternative terrifies them.
69. Liberals are forever in search of a religion (New Age, pagan, Unitarianism, etc.) which smiles on promiscuity.
70. Liberals despise the Pope because he refuses to compromise on abortion, birth control, and divorce. All three positions discourage promiscuity.
71. Better that millions of Africans die in the agony of AIDS, and fortunes wasted on cures that don't work, than one liberal breath discouraging promiscuity.
72. A full-time mother enrages a liberal.
73. Liberals admire the Chinese forced abortion policy.
74. Twenty years after spectacularly successful airline deregulation, liberals still whine about it because they are obessed with collectivism, and they are elitests who don't like flying with the middle class.
75. Human life is cheap in the liberal world.
76. Liberals are Puritans - pompous, uptight, and legalistic. They crave a bland, monotholic culture where dissent is oppressed by criminal law.
77. Liberals cannot conceive of a solution to a problem which does not involve government.
78. Hillary's Village is a totalitarian state.
79. The EU is all about socialism.
80. Given the chance, liberals would ban the Bible as "hate speech".
81. Liberals view humans as monetary objects without moral motivation (welfare, etc.) , but view inaminate objects (guns, profits, etc.) in  exclusively moral terms.
82. The Third Way is a new shade of lipstick on the same old socialist pig.
83. In Hillary's Village, parents are the child-rearing problem, not the solution.
84. Liberals supported the return of Elian Gonzalez because they admire Castro's collectivist island prison.
85. Michal Jackson is a paedophile.  The liberal media admire him.
86. Liberals despise the death penalty as the ultimate statement of moral and individual responsibility.
87. Anyone who criticizes any aspect of homosexuality is hysterically accused of  "homophobia" and "latent homosexuality".
88. Environmentalists have evolved into pagans who worship rather than "protect" nature.
89. Modern art is obsessed with hatred for morality and Christianity.
90. The majority of US universities despise intellectual freedom.
91. Liberals are obsessed with the elimination of risk because risk is integral to freedom and personal responsibility.
92. Liberals create child abuse witchhunts, and often send innocent parents to prison in child abuse cases, to justify their destruction of parental rights.
93. Liberal bureaucrats oppress conservatives and Christians whenever possible.
94. Liberals are nasty, violent thugs.
95. Better thousands of women die in the agony of breast cancer, than one liberal breath revealing the link between breast cancer and abortion.
96. A liberal would sooner pull out his own teeth with a pair of pliers than cut a tax.
97. Liberals have never really given up on Marx.
98. Pedophilia is a big part of homosexual culture.
99. Liberals dream of a massive network of government social workers who control individual families in detail.
100. The goal of the United Nations is world-wide totalitarianism.
101. The primary tool of environmentalism is paranoia based on falsehood.
102. Like the modern liberal, Hitler was a socialist, not a fascist.
103. Liberals crave the kind of Gestapo "Zero-tolerance" society seen in modern public schools.
104. The liberal worships appetite and disdains self-discipline.
105. The liberal is an intolerant, narrow-minded, thug.
106. The liberal end of bigger government justifies any means - including lies, deception, corruption, and violence.
107. The national media is an extension of the Democrat party, and relentlessly liberal.
108. For the liberal, "bi-partisan" means being more liberal.
109. Animal Rights and Environmental "activists" are more about hatred of humanity than love of nature.
110. The liberal's favorite play, "The Vagina Monologues", glorifies child rape and pedophilia, among other perversions.

fletrejet, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Coulter's books are just like the above typical internent conservative rant, except less funny, and inexplicably published by a major publishing house.

fletrejet, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, the above list certainly describes my personal behavior and beliefs!

Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)


Wow. That list is a ... a ... thing of beauty. Someone definitely needs to set it to a beat.

Paul Ess, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

35 and 65 especially

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I love how she tries to make Hitler a socialist...so that fascism is defensible?

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

she lost me when she referred to bob guccione jr, whom she'd dated, as "arm candy".

She is SO HIGH. I mean, my ass-crack has better hair than he does.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a teenager in an "exploited" t-shirt ask for her books last night. #35 and #65 are punk as fuck.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Who wants to start a band? Ann Coulter Liberal Explosion.

Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

why not just 'Fuck Lying Cunts Dead'

Millar (Millar), Thursday, 26 June 2003 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...
currently facing two felonies and a misdemeanor for voting fraud, if they can actually find a cop to investigate

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)


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