Harold & Maude: A Movie So Good It Makes Cat Stevens Actually Sound Good

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It really does.
Why did Maude have to die?

Ex-Tennis Star, Thursday, 19 December 2002 02:32 (twenty-three years ago)

She just does.

I like it too. It kind of reminds me of a Wes Anderson film.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 December 2002 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

she was old

The hearsguar is awesome!

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 19 December 2002 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't remember if this is from the Onion or from Berkeley's Heuristic Squelch, but one of the top ten things overheard at freshman orientation:

"I can't believe it, Harold & Maude is my favorite film too!"

(stealing this one from fellow ilxor/buddy Colin Saunders, who often recounts it - and loves the movie too!)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 December 2002 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Wes Anderson owes much to Hal Ashby, indeed.

Ex-Tennis Star, Thursday, 19 December 2002 02:42 (twenty-three years ago)

No way! Harold & Maude is my favortie movie!

Colin Saunders (csaunders), Thursday, 19 December 2002 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a Cat Stevens track on the 'Rushmore' S/T too.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 19 December 2002 06:26 (twenty-three years ago)

'rushmore' makes cat stevens sound good too

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 19 December 2002 08:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Cat Stevens is pretty good, even the Islamic stuff.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 19 December 2002 10:09 (twenty-three years ago)

One of my old favourites, too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I find it somewhat disturbing and amusing that in the only two Ruth Gordon movies I've seen (Harold and Maude and Rosemary's Baby), she's nude at some point.

Do you enjoy knives?

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the ex-tennis star is wrong to say that Anderson owes a lot to Ashby - apart from 'Harold and Maude' (written by Colin Higgins, I think) none of Ashby's other movies really have much in common, visually/textually/whatever, w/ 'Rushmore' or 'Royal Tennenbaums'. Ashby was apparently a great genius film editor, but as a director he seems to have been much more of a gd and faithful servant to other ppl's scripts (esp. R. Towne), for gd and bad, rather than a (co)-writer-director hyphenate like Anderson.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I should add that Ruth Gordon was a bit of a hero of mine too. Her acting was always immensely enjoyable (I've only seen her stuff as an old woman), but she was also a top wit and writer, sometimes with hubby Garson Kanin, in her younger days, and worked as screenwriter on some terrific old screwball comedies, especially one or two with Spencer Tracey and Katherine Hepburn.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 19 December 2002 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Ruth Gordon was the Warren Oates of elderly actresses. :)

Joe (Joe), Friday, 20 December 2002 00:51 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
I just watched this again last weekend. Does anyone know what the tatoo/markings on Maude's wrist represents? She talked about Devil's Island & seagulls, but are we supposed to think she was a prisoner there? Or was she in a concentration camp? It was a pretty understated point, but seems pretty important to her character.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think we're supposed to think she was in a concentration camp at one point.

This is one of my favorite films, though, even if it may be a bit of a cliché student thing to love.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a concentration camp number.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

He's also on the soundtrack to that film that Can did the music for - "Deep End" - haven't seen it since I was about 11 and didn't even know who Can were then

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Aside from the fake suicides at the beginning, I've never liked it. Cutesy glibness about aging and death, and tho she was a hoot in Rosemary's Baby, Ruth G was unbearable from this point on.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Thunderous irony: the writer, Colin Higgins, died of AIDS at 47.

Ruth Gordon wrote better movies (Adam's Rib, The Actress).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Harold, but not Maude.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Maude's kind of a creep.

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I came close to checking out her bio at the library last week. It had to be published in the early to mid 70s. It has probably been about as long since I've seen H&M, but , yeah, I thought it was ok.

I haven't revisited too many films from this period as they don't seem to have aged well - at least for me.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

For once I agree with Dr. Morbius.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Maude is an old slut

I love Harold, though, Bud Cort has one of the best voices I've ever heard

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard Cort read Catcher In The Rye on radio and he was perfect for that. Also the movie Brewster McCloud is worth checking out.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't Bud Cort have a small role in something recently, some Wes or P.T. Anderson thing?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

He was in The Life Aquatic

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

He was the voice of the computer in Electric Dreams.

h0t h0t h0rsey (Carey), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

mark s, sistrah becky, dr vick and sistrah becky's lovely boyf are watchin the life aquatic

SBLB: bud cort!
DV: who bud cort?
MS: harold and maude!!
DV: which one?
SB: the boy!!!
DV [shocked pause]: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

later she noted sadly that his voice wz still the same which made it all the sadlier

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

man i saw this when i was WAY too young and was creeped out, now i saw it last night probably when i'm too old (since everyone upthread makes a big deal about college kids liking it) and enjoyed it a lot. some of the maude stuff is too "life-affirming" and cutesy yeah but cort and gordon are great in it and there are good jokes throughout.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:15 (sixteen years ago)

Also the movie Brewster McCloud is worth checking out.
Agreed

Trip Maker, Monday, 31 August 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

I want to see Brewster McCloud so much but can't find a decent bootleg anywhere. Can't believe it's still not out on dvd while it's relatively easy to get Quintet or OC & Stiggs...

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that is weird. My local rental shop has a VHS copy. John Phillips did the soundtrack, which is kind of interesting. It's not like its the greatest movie ever, or anything, but I think fans of Harold and Maude would appreciate it. Lots of shirtless Bud Cort, anyway.

Trip Maker, Monday, 31 August 2009 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

i am glad someone mentioned "Deep End", great weird movie.

i actually think Harold and Maude made me like Cat Stevens movie in whatever movie they appear. (but i always like Tea for Tillerman anyway)

Ludo, Monday, 31 August 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

*Cat Stevens music, obviously.

Ludo, Monday, 31 August 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

five years pass...

Mike D'Angelo w/ the right idea:

I really just want to strangle Maude, to be honest. She's a Manic Pixie Dream Crone, embracing life and seizing the day with the kind of pushy, simpleminded vigor that in reality would drive somebody like Harold to demock his mock suicides.

http://letterboxd.com/gemko/film/harold-and-maude/

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 12:15 (eleven years ago)

Right at the forefront of the pack of cult movies I don't get. It's a small pack.

Eric H., Friday, 13 March 2015 13:34 (eleven years ago)

Hated her so much in this surprised when I liked her in Rosemary's Baby.

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2015 13:39 (eleven years ago)

well the shtick also works in Where's Poppa? The ass-biting helps.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 14:03 (eleven years ago)

It had certainly worn out its welcome by the time of My Bodyguard.

Cartesian Dual in the Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 March 2015 17:31 (eleven years ago)

I used to think of her character in My Bodyguard as a semi-irritating distraction until the prof that I work with pointed out how her character is consistent with a queer reading of the film: her heterosexuality (hitting on married men, embarrassing her son) is just as disruptive as the boys' homosexuality.

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Friday, 13 March 2015 17:37 (eleven years ago)

academics have a lotta time on their hands.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 17:47 (eleven years ago)

is the Bodyguard worth watching

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 March 2015 17:57 (eleven years ago)

No, but *My* Bodyguard is!

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Friday, 13 March 2015 18:01 (eleven years ago)

lol um yes right

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:15 (eleven years ago)

it helps if you like the blazing androgyny of 15-year-old Matt Dillon

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 18:28 (eleven years ago)

well Over the Edge is one of my favorite movies so duh yeah

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)

I used to think of her character in My Bodyguard as a semi-irritating distraction until the prof that I work with pointed out how her character is consistent with a queer reading of the film: her heterosexuality (hitting on married men, embarrassing her son) is just as disruptive as the boys' homosexuality.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Friday, March 13, 2015 12:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

academics have a lotta time on their hands.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, March 13, 2015 12:47 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Prof OTM presumably, but still, LOL.

Eric H., Friday, 13 March 2015 18:46 (eleven years ago)

Saw this again on the big screen. Forgot that he wears the exact same outfit as the shrink right down to the shoes and handkerchief.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Friday, 13 March 2015 21:00 (eleven years ago)

really just want to strangle ppl who still use any variation of "manic pixie dream..." in reviews, tbh

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 13 March 2015 21:12 (eleven years ago)

applying it to Gordon in this context is proper tho

plus "crone" makes me laff

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 March 2015 23:51 (eleven years ago)

gtfo op, Stevens DOES sound good.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 13 March 2015 23:59 (eleven years ago)

four years pass...

watched this the other night for the first time in probably decades, mostly just to catch all the location shots that would have had no meaning prior to my living in the Bay Area for decades - ie, the shots at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk and the frontage road by the Ashby and University exits off the 280, among other things. For a film shot in the SF Bay it's funny how much the exterior shots avoid all of the usual iconography. For ex. in the shot where they are looking across the Bay at SF (after Harold has noticed Maude's concentration camp tattoo) she remarks on the view, but the SF skyline and the Golden Gate Bridge are obscured by the backs of the characters.

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 17:38 (six years ago)

The idea that surviving a Nazi concentration camp would influence Maude to become a happy free-spirited bohemian is probably the least realistic aspect of a very unrealistic film. But it's all a fantasy anyway, so it isn't like that matters much.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 6 January 2020 18:31 (six years ago)

yeah it has a very un-real quality to it in general. As noted upthread, there's glimmers of Wes Anderson's approach in certain scenes.

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 20:02 (six years ago)

five years pass...

Remake idea: Chalamet & Carol Kane

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 19 January 2025 05:48 (one year ago)

Between the Temples is not too far from that

symsymsym, Sunday, 19 January 2025 07:02 (one year ago)

Chalamet and Kane in Between The Temples you’d just want to see fuck.

milms and foovies (sic), Sunday, 19 January 2025 07:32 (one year ago)

(Harold & Maude it’s up to you if they fuck; Between The Temples it’s meant to be bad when Schwartzman says he wants to fuck; Chalamet and Kane in either would be so 🔥 that it would unbalance those dynamics. But yes, Jordan should check BTT if he hasn’t.)

milms and foovies (sic), Sunday, 19 January 2025 07:38 (one year ago)

Ha, it was of course BtT that made me think this. Started it last night but my wife couldn't stand the directing style & super close-ups.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 19 January 2025 15:03 (one year ago)

Aside from the fake suicides at the beginning, I've never liked it. Cutesy glibness about aging and death...

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, June 7, 2005

I'm in Morbs's camp on this one.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 January 2025 19:36 (one year ago)

one year passes...

A one-off screening at the local Drafthouse, planned before Cort's death, so why not finally watch it, and so I did. I appreciated the poised artificialities, that's why it all works for me, in combination with the excellent editing. Beyond Wes A., it feels very avant la lettre on a number of fronts, however by accident.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 February 2026 05:20 (three months ago)


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