proposals for 'ground zero.'

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has to be the meier-eisenman-gwathmey siegel-holl.

I'd like to see more of the libeskind one and less of the united architects one. they are both OK.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 December 2002 08:34 (twenty-three years ago)

URL to see the entries? Norman Foster was on radio last night being way pretentious about his. One of my best friends works for him and HAAAAATES it.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 19 December 2002 08:36 (twenty-three years ago)

wow, just found this page. has some linked 'interactive feature' with different views+video+architect chat.

this page has one view and a little blurb for each.

another.

a few of the designs have buildings taller than the twin towers. one or two have designs to be the tallest in the world. I didn't think these were economical at all, these days.

the united one looks stupid in the skyline, I think. but the views I've seen within it at ground level are pretty interesting.

the foster one is just ugly. just now.

the skidmore, owings & merrill looks OK...but they don't describe it very well.

they don't show the libeskind one too well either.

I don't like the *think one even though I'd almost like to.


there'll be some better pages soon, I hope.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 December 2002 09:01 (twenty-three years ago)

the *think ones, rather.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 December 2002 09:03 (twenty-three years ago)

so...I continue in a similair vein. in vain.


the united one and meier---holl one and the SOM one [to an extent] all making a deal about multiple routes down+out.


the foster one looking like it's not stable and encorporating a ground level dallas-kennedy memorial-esque memorial.

the united one is very ugly at its extent. interesting lower down...but making itself like there's a horrible effort to reach its height and for nothing. and then telling us that, maybe, it doesn't need to reach quite as high and that that is a STRENGTH. get lost.

the SOM one is crowded yet attractive. and, again, saying it doesn't need to be all that. unfortunately.

the peterson/littenberg one is boring even though I like parts of its parts.

maybe I like the *think one more than I thought. and maybe not as much as I will.

the libeskind is the usual. or the unusual. I like it well enough but it is a little heavyhanded in its lightness.

the meier---holl is still my favourite even though it claims a supercrap generator. it appeals to my brutalistical tendancies--it is pretty. arches. gaps.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 December 2002 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

According to a poll on that SFGate site upthread, Skidmore is the least popular. Such is life. (I am not related.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I think they all look pretty retarded and excess and like quite a waste. The only one that looks even moderately worthy to me is the *think design.

Why must architects insist on building some gigantic monstrosity? Why not a humble little something? Eh, my opinion isn't really that relevant on this, I've never even aspired to pretend to be an architect.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I like that we have twin threads on this. Seems apt.

Nickalicious, the first set of proposals were rejected for not being dramatic and memorable enough. I think it is felt that they need to show confidence and be a major marker and memorial.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 19 December 2002 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)

some of these are ok, but I really thought that the plan that resulted from Herbert Muschamp's charrette a few months ago was the best. I am going to go look for a link...

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 19 December 2002 21:50 (twenty-three years ago)

humble little gigantic thing. doesn't need to be a monstrosity, you're right.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 20 December 2002 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven years pass...

http://blackbag.gawker.com/the-ground-zero-mosque-was-an-inside-job-1633321283/+laceydonohue

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 September 2014 12:05 (eleven years ago)


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