don't be a fule, the sequels are great! the most bizarro franchise in hollywood history, you will not believe your eyes. and they don't get unwatchably dodgy until the 5th film.
my babble about the sequel from The 1970's Science Fiction Movie Poll :
I just watched beneath the planet of the apes the other night. the scene where the ape city army marching through the desert encounters a field of squirming apes crucified upside-down in flames while in the background an enormous statue of the lawgiver begins bleeding from his eyes is like a halfstep from jodorowsky-level wtf.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/beneath-the-planet-of-the-apes.jpg
and I know I've gone on about conquest for the planet of the apes around here somewhere, the prequel that depicts the rise of the apes as a 60s watts-style race riot. o_O
― Edward III, Monday, 6 October 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
There was one that was set in one shopping preecinct, presumably one of the dodgy sequels.
I see the box set is cheap in HMV right now.
I went for the "likey Lads" one instead.
― Mark G, Monday, 6 October 2008 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link
the second one is hysterically awful, the third one (when the apes come to present day earth?) is great
― akm, Monday, 6 October 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
for a serious apprec of the race angle, read this:
http://server40136.uk2net.com/~wpower/images/product_images/9780786426638.jpg
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 6 October 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I first consumed Beneath the Planet of the Apes as a Marvel comic book, and as that it was classic. Watching the movie was a slight let-down as a kid. But the whole nuclear thing made a big impact on me. I was pretty much obsessed with Planet of the Apes until Star Wars came along.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.populationstatistic.com/images/vegas_zaius.jpg
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Nope. Try again.
― Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
? is yr browser older than the Sacred Scrolls?
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
In the last few weeks I've made it all the way to Conquest and had a pretty good time. For some reason I can't yet pull the trigger on Battle.
― Dear Tacos, how are you? I am fine. The weather is nice. I miss yo (Oilyrags), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
it's pretty uninspired even with the presence of Severn Darden and Paul Williams.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
That one was big letdown.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
obv Fox cut the budget to the bone, but I liked the school buses.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
not to mention john huston and john landis, what a bizarro cast
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Landis?
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link
The Tim Burton film is the worst film I have ever seen.
I don't even remember very much about the film...but ^^^^ this.
It was among the few times in my life when the movie is so bad that you actually come out of the experience semi-angry. I have not seen a new Tim Burton movie since, and possibly never will.
― iatee, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link
c'mon, filmmakers fuck up. He did well turning Sweeney Todd into a horror musical.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah but there's a difference between an artistic stumble and a piece of art that's *so* actively bad that you immediately have to really wonder whether or not that person has anything of worth say to the world and whether or not should be making things to begin with...and I remember the remake being one of those.
― iatee, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
err:
'of worth to say to the world and whether or not they should be'
― iatee, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
i've always wondered if the nuclear-bomb cult of mutants and their hymns in beneath the planet of the apes was at least partly the inspiration for the holy hand grenade sketch from monty python and the holy grail
― crack?!? wow, maybe they can have china white later! (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link
The "Planet of The Apes" series is reportedly getting an origin story with James Franco .
According to Variety, the actor has signed on to star in a prequel to the series.
A mag source said James had a great meeting with director Rupert Wyatt over the weekend about the movie, that will be set in the present day and chronicle how genetic engineering gave the animals intelligence. The actor will reportedly play an important scientist in the midst of the war between man and ape.
The effects team WETA Digital, who wowed moviegoers with their work on "Avatar," will reportedly use photo-realistic apes and not actors in costumes for the movie.
The "Apes" prequel is slated to start filming in July and will hit theaters on June 24, 2011.
― velko, Friday, 21 May 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't know about this til Franco interview in NYT (in which he rolled his eyes over it, bet the producers loved that).
Plot basically seems to sort of redo the 4th film in the original series, w/ Andy Serkis Gollumizing Roddy McDowall's Caesar:
http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/06/30/andy-serkis-to-play-caesar-in-rise-of-the-apes/
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
'Return' is just bizarre in the way it carries on straight after the first and mirrors it in many ways - but its pretty confusing in that no-one bothers to explain WHY the Forbidden Zone has a wall of fire and stupid lightning bolts, or why the apes see the mirage of burning apes when they cross the threshold - the worst part is the underground humans singing choir during their bomb-worshipping sermon...needlessly drawn out, implausible and it sounds awful!
rong on so many levels
do you get befuddled by jump cuts too
they were over here, now they're over there! WHAT IS HAPPPENING
― (e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I still haven't seen the R-rated cut of conquest for the planet of the apes that they released last year
need to rectify
― (e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
The score/soundtrack for the original movie is so perfect that I think it elevates the material.
― (¬_¬) (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
great score, esp that whole opening desert trek and the hunt sequence.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
morbz your love for planet of the apes is very humanizing, what other secrets are you keeping
― (e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
dogs and children love me
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
aw <3
― (e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Against my best instincts i think i kinda want to see thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MtqRd9tKLw&feature=player_embedded
― Number None, Thursday, 14 April 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Look at the bright side: even if it's terrible it's going to automatically be better than the Burton Apes abortion.
― das reboot (latebloomer), Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^ cannot be overstated
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I keep seeing people on Twitter bitching about the title, but I feel like it pretty much feels like the long and awkward titles of some of the 70s sequels. Its not like Dark of the Moon or something really lame.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Haven't seen more than a few minutes of the Burton version, but it was enough
― Number None, Thursday, 14 April 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Burton not tHAT bad
otoh, i don't even wanna watch this trailer
― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 April 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
burton version is incredibly bad and retains almost none of the stuff that was appealing about the original (aside from some great makeup effects)
that teaser was actually better than i expected
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Friday, 15 April 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link
james franco is gonna make one hell of a scientist
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 15 April 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope this is just like "Deep Blue Sea" only with apes.
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Friday, 15 April 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Although apes AND sharks would move this quickly into "Best Picture frontrunner" territory now that I think about it.
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Friday, 15 April 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I kept thinking of "Monkey Shines" (which was s'ok).
What are the odds that this movie ends with a shot of an ape perched on the Statue of Liberty? Because, you know ... get it!?!?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 April 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
cgi apes look like crap
when that one jumps off the railing at the helicopter it's like oh noes attack of the panda
― if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Friday, 15 April 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
It also looks like a prequel to "Congo"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 April 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, now I want to see it more than ever:
It plays out like an escape movie, says director Rupert Wyatt, as Caesar the chimp leads his fellow imprisoned apes to escape the research facility where they're imprisoned. Caesar enlists the aid of Maurice, an orangutan who knows sign language, and a big bruiser of a chimp named Rocket. It's an "A-Team of apes," says Wyatt.
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Friday, 15 April 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Assuming they're playing this for laughs.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
wait are we supposed to root for the ape-team or be terrified of them
― i can tina turner (elmo argonaut), Friday, 15 April 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Saw the Burton POTA in the theater with friends when it came out and actually had a blast watching it. I've paid good money to see movies that were far more dreadful and dull.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 15 April 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
visually it was pretty cool! if only the script had been worth a damn.
― das reboot (latebloomer), Saturday, 16 April 2011 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Isn't that every Burton movie?
― Number None, Saturday, 16 April 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Burton's always been hit or miss but I don't think at that point he had made anything as joyless and uninspired as Planet
― das reboot (latebloomer), Saturday, 16 April 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Robert Wyatt directed this new Apes? Oh, wait...
― Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 16 April 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Where are the orangutans?
― wk, Saturday, 16 April 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I found them enjoyable but find the 70s ones deserved more love.
watching Conquest of the Planet of the Apes rn. amazing that in 18 short years they've enslaved apes and are still paranoid of one singular talking ape toppling them all. some real John Connor shit here
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 May 2024 00:31 (five days ago) link
was quite a bit prescient about how labor would be devalued by capitalism in the 21st century though
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 May 2024 00:36 (five days ago) link
Hated all three of the recent movies. The CGI apes looked terrible at all times, and even worse than that, the first one had James Franco in it. I still love the first two and the fourth from the original series, though. The second one, when the mutants peel their faces off, was a primal childhood terror moment for me.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 17 May 2024 01:02 (five days ago) link
Caesar from 70s movies > Caesar of new trilogy
Nu-Caesar is a watered down revolutionary meant to appease to centrist audiences, 70s Caesar basically a Fred Hampton style revolutionary
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 May 2024 01:22 (five days ago) link
why are people stanning so hard in, like, WaPo and NYT for the new ones?? they are think-pieces even! are they in cahoots with big ape?
― scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2024 02:39 (five days ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/movies/2024/05/10/kingdom-planet-apes-greatest-franchise/
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/15/movies/planet-of-the-apes-appeal.html?searchResultPosition=1
― scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2024 02:45 (five days ago) link
I remember loving the Planet of the Apes TV show marathons that WGN ran over a few evenings when I was a kid. They did some with the old Flash Gordon serials too.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 17 May 2024 02:47 (five days ago) link
i must have seen those original films dozens of times over the years when i was a kid. they played them a lot. i never got tired of them.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2024 02:49 (five days ago) link
I didn't know this until tonight, because I have an old DVD set of the first five movies from 2006, but in 2008 they put out a Blu-Ray of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes that includes the original ending where Caesar lets the other apes murder the humans. I'm gonna buy one on eBay.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 17 May 2024 03:01 (five days ago) link
The CGI apes looked terrible at all times
Really? I think this still looks brilliant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB4XrhYLQ4A
― nate woolls, Friday, 17 May 2024 03:29 (five days ago) link
Somewhat off-topic but the comedian Dana Gould's Hanging With Dr. Z. schtick in which he portrays Dr. Zaius as a gossipy gadfly of Old Hollywood cracks me up.
― henry s, Friday, 17 May 2024 12:20 (five days ago) link
I really like the new series. as far as ongoing 'franchise' sf films it's probably the best one outside of Dune.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 17 May 2024 13:41 (five days ago) link
i've now seen all ten ape movies and I enjoy them all...to varying degrees....except for the Burton one, fuck that one.
oh and Battle for the Planet of the Apes really sucks
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 May 2024 13:43 (five days ago) link
Kingdom is pretty good but obviously not as good as the 2017 reboot kickoff or Dawn. I think maybe I like it as much as the last one but I'm actually a little fuzzy on that film.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 20 May 2024 16:32 (two days ago) link
I am a little bleery as to how equipment that has stayed unused and dormant for over 300 years magically still works when booted up, i.e. the satellites at the end
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 May 2024 16:37 (two days ago) link
yeah that's the sort of inanity you sometimes just have to go with
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:52 (two days ago) link
one thing that bugged me: given how many fucking guns there are in this country, you'd think they would still be around and plentiful even 300 years in the future.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:54 (two days ago) link
cyrus and i watched the first two of the new trilogy last night. gonna watch War tonight or tomorrow. we liked them. you get used to the weird look of all the apes. it is its own reality. cool action scenes. i will never get used to that impossibly-fast-movement thing of CGI though. where everyone scrambles up a building in two seconds. i liked that final battle on the building in the second one. all the metal flying everywhere. it looked cool. can imagine it being very cool on a big screen.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2024 17:57 (two days ago) link
War's really good.
what I appreciate the most about the new one is the obvious allegory to early Christianity, where in the mere 300 years after Caesar died, he's been forgotten by some, fondly remembered by a few, wildly misinterpreted by most
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 May 2024 18:09 (two days ago) link
i should rewatch War.
there was every reason this one could have really sucked (no Matt Reeves, no Andy Serkis) and I'm glad it didn't, even if some of it seemed like a slight rehash. I don't suppose we'll ever get some weirdo remake of Escape from in this series.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 20 May 2024 22:39 (two days ago) link
One.can dream
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 May 2024 22:50 (two days ago) link
No monkey sex scenes in this one, I know, I’m disappointed too
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:22 (yesterday) link