Life in Canada vs. Life in America

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which is better?

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:32 (twenty-three years ago)

canada

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:35 (twenty-three years ago)

new zealand

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Yay NZ!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:48 (twenty-three years ago)

If canada is better, then why? Convince me I should not move there

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i want better choices

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)

but you can't take that stuff to canada
you can't take it anywhere

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:58 (twenty-three years ago)

What's that song meant to be about exactly?

I would never want to convince someone to NOT move here Mike. It's great.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:01 (twenty-three years ago)

It seems too good to be true. I feel suspicious. Do you lure americans and then force them to work as mounties in the artic?

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Once you move to Canada the pressure's off, nobody else there does anything so why should you?

― dave q, Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)

but can you go to any beaches in Canada?

― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)

yes.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

but arent they really cold? cold beaches sux0r

― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)

not always. and not always.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 16 January 2003 11:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Grand Beach north of Winnipeg is one of the nicest beaches in North America. Where were you thinking of moving to, Mike?

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:32 (twenty-three years ago)

My parents lived in Toronto for three years and loved it. I think it's an amazing city, very clean and cosmopolitan. Kind of physically like Chicago but closer to New York in spirit. Montreal is a fantastic city as well, and my Dad did lots of business out in Halifax and keeps telling me I should visit there (even though it's very sparsely populated). Canada can get a bit provencial in their Canadianess, whereas American just don't give a fuck (I kind of prefer the latter). Overall if you wanted to make gross generalizations I'd say less crime, and a lot less soul.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Eat shit and die, Aaron. How's that for soul!

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry. How's that for Canadianess?

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)

In Canada you can just go and buy codeine. And they have the Maple Leafs and Anthony Easton. So Canada, obv.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

But wait, weren't Bootsauce Canadian? That might be a black mark on the record.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

If I hear the words 'clean' and 'Canadian' in the same sentence one more fuckin' time I'm going to force someone smell my armpits

― dave q, Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

See Bryan... you were still polite!

Fine Canada isn't clean. Happy? Actually, my fav story about Toronto was that they were filming a movie there which was supposed to be in New York but had to spread garbage everywhere to make it realistic. But wait it gets better. During their lunch break the city came along and cleaned up all the garbage. Classic.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's always surprising to see how much cleaner Windsor is than Detroit once you've crossed the border, but then any city you can think to mention would look shiny and clean in comparison. And I'm not even a Detroit-basher like Keith...

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Other than a few I've had to serve in restaurants, I've never run in to a rude American. I've really only met Minnesotans, though! Very nice people, except for a liquor store owner who threw us out of his store for laughing about how cheap the booze was. He asked us what we were laughing about, and I said, "the booze is so much cheaper here than in Canada." Then he threw us out sayin, "It's because of all the damn taxes on liquor to pay for your goddamn free health care!" Just about the dumbest thing ever said.

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

but can you go to any beaches in Canada?
World's largest fresh water beach is Wasaga I was lead to believe.

If I hear the words 'clean' and 'Canadian' in the same sentence one more fuckin' time I'm going to force someone smell my armpits
Its our plan to embarras Hamilton into not smelling so gawdawful.

Only reason I can think of not to move is a) You love your right to carry guns, gun control is a little screwy at the moment. b) Taxes are higher but you get free health care and better social welfare.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

and our PM isn't hell bent on B.O.B.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Prescription drugs are cheaper here. No, I'm not grasping... More Tim's locations! That's a good reason!

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

More skiing, more government funding for cd releases and touring.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)

And if your in Minnesoter you as good as here already.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that where he is?

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Minnesota ROOLZ.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I still yearn for the day Nicole becomes the chief Hockey Night in Canada announcer. Don Cherry will have met his match. (Or am I lying?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:02 (twenty-three years ago)

If anything I would make Don seem milquetoast. But then I don't really share his hatred for European players, I would just talk about how cute mullets are and random gossip.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

This is good enough. New theme song for the program would be the Super Furries' "Ice Hockey Hair."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Not Pansy Division's "Hockey Hair" or "Manada"?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

It can rotate.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:42 (twenty-three years ago)

SIT AND SPIN

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 January 2003 16:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm. Well I had been thinking I would move from Kansas CIty to Portland Maine. I guess when I live there I can go to Quebec, Montreal and Nova Scotia. I'm starting to consider NOva Scotia because I don't mind learning french, but I think I would rather be able to get a job quickly and not be pissing everyone off with my lack of French ability. I can't belive how odd the pronounciation it. Two LL's sounds like Y? Anyways Nova Scotia is just a fairy away from BOston.

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I now love Hanle y more than ever.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Last time I checked, they don't speak a lot of French in Nova Scotia. New Brunswick, maybe? Gaelic! You could learn Gaelic!

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)

there is more gaelic spoken in nova scotia than there is in scotland.

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Exactly!

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Last time I checked, they don't speak a lot of French in Nova Scotia.
That was his point, methinks...He's considering so he doesn't have to learn it, like he would if he chose Montreal, say. (Though I understand that you may be able to get by quite well in Montreal with only English, so long as you're willing to at least TRY to speak French. That's what a few people I know in Montreal have told me, anyhow, but maybe that's not the general Montreal experience.)

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm a stupid fuck! I didn't read his sentence properly. Yes. Montreal. French. Yup. FUCK!

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Ummm, Nova Scotia was originally French and there are remnants of Acadians who avoided the expulsion still about.
Only place youd need to known French would be anywhere east of Montreal or north in Quebec, northern New Brunswick, the Acadian Penisula and in some small Northern Ontario towns near the Quebec border.

Maybe some small hamlets in the northern tip of PEI as well

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyways Nova Scotia is just a fairy away from BOston.
A very expensive ferry away from Maine, didn't know about one to Boston.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

but I think I would rather be able to get a job quickly

Don't be too sure about that unless your in forestry or shipping. The east coast is wonderful but its an economic wasteland, probably why its so cheap to live there. If I had my choice of where to work Halifax would be #2 or #3 for me.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-three years ago)

nunavut is very nice this time of year

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:26 (twenty-three years ago)

French Canadians, ugh

― James Blount, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:18 (twenty-three years ago)

The french canadian grow their women cute.
And Im just jealous they seem to be born with better fashion sense then I'll ever have.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I shall never forgive Canada for stealing my beloved Flames

― James Blount, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:26 (twenty-three years ago)

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

*Dan implodes in an innuendo-soaked fury*

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Well you got Quebec, Winnipeg and probably Ottawa in the trade plus Buffalo has been screwing over Hamilton for years.
Though I'd have loved to see Don Cherry coaching a crappy team.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Um, Vancouver and Vancouver Island have plenty of saltwater beaches. And if you don't mind beefing up your house security, Vancouver is a nice place to live... maybe more expensive than Kansas City or Portland, Maine... It also has the most temperate weather in all of Canada.

I mention security not because of any major threat of violent crime. There's a stunning lack of that in Vancouver. But material theft is pretty common.

Mike, ever considered Portland, Oregon?

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Oregon? You mean like Oregano? Its ok.

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:03 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005&page=1

O, Canada! More Americans Heading North
The Number of Americans Moving to Canada in 2006 Hit a 30-Year High
By MARCUS BARAM
July 31, 2007 —
Blame Canada!
It may seem like a quiet country where not much happens besides ice hockey, curling and beer drinking. But our neighbor to the north is proving to be quite the draw for thousands of disgruntled Americans.
The number of U.S. citizens who moved to Canada last year hit a 30-year high, with a 20 percent increase over the previous year and almost double the number who moved in 2000.
In 2006, 10,942 Americans went to Canada, compared with 9,262 in 2005 and 5,828 in 2000, according to a survey by the Association for Canadian Studies.
Of course, those numbers are still outweighed by the number of Canadians going the other way. Yet, that imbalance is shrinking. Last year, 23,913 Canadians moved to the United States, a significant decrease from 29,930 in 2005.
"There has been a definite increase in the past five years the number hasn't exceeded 10,000 since 1977," says Jack Jedwab, the association's executive director. "During the mid-70s, Canada admitted between 22,000 and 26,000 Americans a year, most of whom were draft dodgers from the Vietnam War."
The current increase is fueled largely by social and political reasons, says Jedwab.
"Those who are coming have the highest level of education these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he explains. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer."
One recent immigrant is Tom Kertes, a 34-year-old labor organizer who moved from Seattle to Toronto in April.
Kertes attributes his motivation to President Bush's opposition to gay marriage, and the tactics employed during the war on terror since 9/11.
"I wanted a country that respected my human rights and the rights of others," he says. "We joked about it after Bush won re-election, but it took us a while to go through the application."
Kertes, who moved with his partner, is happy in his new home. "Canada is a really nice country. My mother is thinking about it. My stepfather has diabetes and has health issues. So, he'd be taken care of for free if he moved up here."
Not that Kertes doesn't get homesick every once in a while. "I have no intention of giving up my citizenship. I have an American flag at home on the wall I didn't have that in Seattle. All of a sudden, I'm a nationalist. On the Fourth of July, I really missed being home."
Jo Davenport, who wrote "The Canadian Way," moved from Atlanta to Nova Scotia in December 2001. She also cites political reasons for her move, saying that she disagreed with the Bush administration's decisions after 9/11.
"Things are totally different here because they care about their people here," she says, explaining that she's only been back home once or twice.

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

i really love my town.

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

I think about moving there sometimes. The healthcare situation here alone is scary enough to warrant moving. Being married to a public school teacher is the only thing that keeps that from being a bigger worry.

― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

i love your town too, dude. (don't tell the other terrontonians i said that tho)

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

is canada on the brink of a massive demographically driven economic collapse?

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

o_O

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

hey you silly person, we love the Montreal!

― Kim, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

I hear they call an eighth a half-quarter

― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

true

― carne asada, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

i've always called it an eighth

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Why do Canadians always want to have fist fights?

― humansuit, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

not into guns!

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

canadians have huge hands

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

hammy. sweaty.

― humansuit, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

Using your stick is too European.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

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