Magic: The Gathering C/D

drafting while wasted was a grand success, got two shocks and a deathrite in my prize packs

I think the prob w/ starting w/ fewer than 6 is that you can only play so many 2-3 pack sealed games w/ the same cards before it gets boring

think i just had an opponent stroke out vs. my double Slime Molding/quad Rootborn Defenses deck, literally every card I played was followed by a tirade (though I also had Collective Blessing, Pallisade Giant, and Martial Law)

Haha, quad Defenses, what an annoying experience that would have been to play against.

I'd be down for some kind of ILX sealed league, I haven't gotten to play since October. If we're using older sets, would not recommend starting with less than 6 packs. Alpha has an average of like 5 playable cards per pack...

it's like 1/3 totally unplayable, 1/3 okay, 1/3 broken

maybe less than that broken but still tons, I was opening up sample packs for fun / to see

Word of advice, don't draft anything before Mirage block. I know drafting with early sets seems like such a cool idea but it's a lot like reject rare draft but only half the fun. Early Magic is full of really weird conditional spells and underpowered creatures. I remember Netdrafting a draft with Beta + the first four expansions and it was really awful. Also when Coldsnap came out I remember doing a "full block" draft with Ice Age/Alliances/Coldsnap and you wound up basically being forced to use 11-12 of your Coldsnap picks because half your picks from the other sets were unplayable.

well we were gonna do sealed and would be getting progressively more packs over time. the cardpool.jpg upthread seems playable?

I just tried "opening" a few sample Alpha boosters online, it's a little bit better than I remember, although in pack 3 the best card was Hill Giant haha. I think the site I used took out the basic lands - didn't Alpha have a few basic lands in each pack that replaced commons? Certainly helps the quality of the packs to remove those.

Sometimes the lands replaced rares! One of the quirks of early Magic is that Richard Garfield didn't want players knowing which cards were which rarity so they decided to make some rareless packs to confuse those who thought they had figured it out.

sample alpha packs best cards:

1. white knight, lightning bolt
2. scrubland, rod of ruin, serra angel, sengir vampire, fireball, dark ritual
3. shivan, demonic tutor, invisibility, disintegrate, howl from beyond
4. terror, fireball, invisibility, disintegrate
5. wheel of fortune black vise, disintegrate

where are you doing this?

draft.bestiaire.org/

alright so I got
1. me
2. gravel
3. cider
4. lamp
5. frog
6. vinnie

can we get two more? are there even two more regulars itt? moodles and...

Unfortunately, I think this may be a bit over my head. My knowledge of MTG doesn't extend back much past RTR.

idk I don't think you need encyclopedic knowledge, just a willingness to work w/ random cards you pull

I guess we don't really need 8 cause its a rolling thing not a tournament tho I'd like to keep the same set of people cause of the process

also should we go chronologically or let everybody pick a set they like for the first pool

okay we are gonna go let everyone pick 1, I'm going w/ beta, gravel w/ rise-of-the-eldrazi. 4 spots open.

1. beta
2. rise-of-the-eldrazi
3.
4.
5.
6.

arabian nights!

haha I thought you were just trolling when you told me. okay:

1. beta
2. rise-of-the-eldrazi
3. arabian nights
4.
5.
6.

damn i was gonna pick rise of the eldrazi

if you want all 6 to be different i'll go with invasion instead

1. beta
2. rise-of-the-eldrazi
3. arabian nights
4. invasion
5.
6.

I wasn't playing during Tempest through Invasion blocks, so let's go with... Urza's Destiny. Hopefully someone will open Masticore and we can all gripe.

1. beta
2. rise-of-the-eldrazi
3. arabian nights
4. invasion
5. urza's destiny
6.

are we waiting on me then? I'm not sure if I can do this but if I had to choose I'd say Time Spiral is the only set that could fit with all this junk.

haha time spiral's my favorite limited set but i was hesitant to throw it in here since if you haven't played all of the sets it's referencing (alpha thru odyssey block basically) it's kind of a mess to understand

err alpha through onslaught actually, it's got morph and storm

great

1. beta
2. rise-of-the-eldrazi
3. arabian nights
4. invasion
5. urza's destiny
6. time spiral

don't think about this as a big time constraint. I'll be organizing it and you'll have a cardpool to mess around w/ whenever and people to play whenever. just dl cockatrice and the aforementioned sets and maybe pm me your emails? I'll set up a google docs sometime soon.

and I guess anyone who wants to join can do so anytime before next week.

I thought about picking TS too, just cause it synergizes with everything haha. But better to play with a set I never got to try.

I feel like we should have some way of indicating to each other that we are around and up for a game, like going on ICQ or something.

okay we will figure out logistics soon but I made the packs:

CIDER: http://imgur.com/BgTO6
FROG: http://imgur.com/RlYaX
GRAVEL: http://imgur.com/YlAUL
IATEE: http://imgur.com/f6t8H
LAMP: http://imgur.com/LOtY1
VINNIE: http://imgur.com/X7viX

if anyone else wants to join feel free this week. also ppl should dl cockatrice and the relevant sets.

damn that link is for the first pic not the album. annoying. okay brb.

can you do text files so we can load them into software to work w/

eventually tho prob not tonight

damn there really isn't any web app that has pre-ice age sets and spits out text files as its default, it seems

yeah I looked :/
but I mean typing up 300 names or whatever isn't the end of the world

here is your set:
http://imgur.com/a/7hdgC

damn some of those got fuzzy

GRAVEL: http://imgur.com/a/1jF2g
FROG: http://imgur.com/a/HvJO1
IATEE: http://imgur.com/a/aGmoo
LAMP: http://imgur.com/a/nbHVx
VINNIE: http://imgur.com/a/m4T1I

you can look at other peoples cards too

okay I'm typing up the impossible to read ones for now, which seem like urza's and invasion
Urza's Destiny (setlist: http://www.wizards.com/magic/generic/cardlists/UDSpoiler.txt)

cider:

Covetous Dragon
Incendiary
Splinter
Gamekeeper
Solidarity
Reckless Abandon
Colos Yearling
Mask of Law and Grace
Marker Beetles
Skittering horror
Sigil of Sleep
Dying Wall
Field Surgeon
Chime of Night
Rescue

frog:
Metalworker
Mantas Engine
Serra Advocate
Cinder Seer
Scent of Ivy
Rofello's Gift
Yavimaya Elmer
Scent of Cinder
Fatigue
Capshen Knight
Scent of Nightshade
Sigil of Sleep
Squirming Mass
Reckless Abandon
Trumpet Blast
Vinnie:
Goblin Marshall
Jasmine Seer
Splinter
Mantas Engine
Marker Bettles
Fledgling Osprey
Taunting Elf
Hulking Ogre
Metathran Soldier
Goblin Gardener
Field Surgeon
Wild Colos
Scent of Ivy
Phyrexian Monitor
Reliquary Monk

iatee:
Opposition
Splinter
Voice of Duty
Goblin Berserker
Yavimaya Elder
Scent of Ivy
Tormented Angel
Keldon Vandals
Rofello's Gift
Disease Carriers
Bubbling Muck
Marker Beetles
Capashen Knight
Heart Warden
Colos Yearling

lamp:
Metalworker
Festering Wound
Caltrops
Splinter
Slinking Skirge
Plated Spider
Capashen Templar
Fledgling Ospey
Bubbling Beebles
Goblin Masons
Goblin Gardener
Metathran Soldier
Magnify
Keldon Vandals
Capashen Knight

gravel:
Master Healer
Landslide
Festering Wound
Serra Advocate
Dying Wall
Wall of Glare
Chime of Night
Scent of Cinder
Skittering Horror
Scent of Jasmine
Wild Colos
Fatigue
Colos Yearling
Goblin Gardener
Kingfisher

Invasion: http://www.wizards.com/magic/generic/cardlists/in_spoiler_en_alpha.txt

cider:
Thunderscape Master
Shivan Emissary
Spirit Weaver
Firebrand Ranger
Serpentine Kavu
Phyrexian Reaper
Quirion Elves
Geothermal Crevice
Dream Thrush
Benalish Trapper
Ancient Spring
Thunderscape Apprentice
Traveler's Cloak
Manical Rage
Frenzied Tilling

frog:
Rout
Alloy Golem
Smoldering Tar
Trench Wurm
Thornscape Apprentice
Quiron Trailblazer
Pincer Spider
Harrow
Pouncing Kavu
Ancient Kavu
Repulse
Traveler's Cloak
Crimson Acolyte
Restrain
Nightscape Apprentice

gravel:
Tek
Hate Weaver
Rith's Attendant
Dredge
Scarred Puma
Urborg Skeleton
Vigrous Charge
Phantasmal Terrain
Vodalian Serpent
Kavu Scout
Thornscape Apprentice
Urborg Phantom
Shivan Zombie
Orim's Touch
Phyrexian Battleflies

iatee:
Collapsing Borders
Pain/Suffering
Pulse of Llanowar
Annihilate
Explosive Growth
Firescreamer
Faerie Squadron
Tidal Visionary
Benelish Lancer
Phyrexian Reaper
Fertile Ground
Galina's Knight
Ardent Soldier
Yavimaya Barbarian
Sulfur Vent

lamp:
Phyrexian Altar
Kavu Chameleon
Goblin Spy
Goham Djinn
Hooded Kavu
Armadllio Cloak
Ravenous Rats
Hypnotic Cloud
Thunderscape Apprentice
Slimy Kavu
Kavu Aggressor
Savage Offensive
Vigorous Charge
Thornscape Apprentice
Ancient Spring

Vinnie:
Fight of Flight
Bloodstone Cameo
Vicious Kavu
Yaviyama Kavu
Tribal Flames
Fertile Ground
Stun
Recover
Savage Offensive
Yavimaya Barbarian
Rampant Elephant
Urborg Skeleton
Shackles
Tinder Farm
Geothermal Crevice

just fyi after my whining about drafting rtr itt i am 19-0 so i was obv wrong abt this being a terrible format

damn no level up creatures in my ROE pack is a big disappointment

those seem like they could be OP in this league

I think my best card might be raging river

what are you using to build your deck?

http://cockatrice.de/

i put my sealed pool into cockatrice but i hate deckbuilding in it

oh yeah I haven't dl'd it yet on this computer but I remember being frustrated by the deckbuilding UI too

just memorize all the cards and do the deckbuilding in your head like a savant

vaguely recall some other options existed, I'll look around tomorrow, falling asleep atm

I'm planning on using tappedout for the building, it's okay.

I have LEVEL UPS.