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first 5 picks in DGM are two Fluxchargers, two Nivix Cyclopses, and a Turn/Burn, this deck is incredible. btw Nivix Guildmage always seems to go until like the 12th pick in RTR.

I'm starting to think that 2-color strategies are generally best. I tend to go 2-1 a lot with 3 colors because I can never get enough gates and always end up losing one match to missing a color. Most of my 3-0s thus far have been straight Boros or Gruul. Surprisingly both times I think I wound up playing more cards out of RTR than GTC. It's not as risky as I thought...

frogbs, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah nivix guildmage is way better now that the format is slower

also particularly good in that deck

iatee, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

last night I had a super solid 2 color speed dimir deck and I still lost a match to a noob playing 4c w/ horrible fixing because of bad luck w/ lands. otoh I managed to beat someone else w/ that deck while stuck on 3 lands.

I think 'two colors is a successful strategy' is misleading though - two color decks are going to be 3-0ing a lot because someone who had their two colors open is going to have a v. strong deck regardless, not necessarily because 2 color decks are the better strategy in any given circumstance. sometimes they are. but other times they're not.

iatee, Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

quick question: which is more effective against UW control in standard, Aetherling in particular, Slaughter Games or Pithing Needle?

Moodles, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

burning-tree emissary?

Lamp, Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

yeah lamp otm, they can beat any or all of those cards but they can't beat fast starts where you out-tempo them by playing free creatures and creatures with haste

ciderpress, Sunday, 2 June 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

lol this ptq

Lamp, Sunday, 2 June 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

what about it?

ciderpress, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

frozen @ the end of round 7

Lamp, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link

btw i added you on my main mtgo account not sure what the etiquette is there

Lamp, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link

I drafted again tonight and had a pretty sunk draft because it took me way too long to figure out I was esper not grixis but I did manage to win a bunch of games with whispering madness and place 3rd (out of 6)

whispering madness...kinda playable?? sometimes.

iatee, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link

more than in gatecrash at least

iatee, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link

standard update: 4-0ed two daily events in a row with this:
http://i.imgur.com/VWaaIdo.jpg

i think it's pretty good, though not exactly the pinnacle of innovation

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link

whats the split card?

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link

turn // burn presumably?

i tried a rug walkers list that had mostly the same creature base at fnm two weeks ago, went 3-1 but played some p loose opponents. i can't even remember exactly what was in it except i didn't have statiscaster main and had tamiyo.

Lamp, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link

how is the caster used?

iatee, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link

that was what I was guessing. I like that card a ton and I'm hoping it sees some play

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link

staticaster is maindeck because there's a ton of lingering souls decks on modo right now, or at least there were last weekend. in matchups where its 'dead' you can still use it to stretch your burn spells an extra point of damage on bigger creatures game 1, or combo it with turn so you can send the burn half elsewhere, or use it with ral zarek to kill 2-toughness creatures

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

did you get many ral ultimates?

iatee, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

haha yeah i did the ultimate for the first time today

5 heads

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:13 (ten years ago) link

i'm sort of annoyed with myself for wanting to buy some ral zareks on mtgo now, i wanna try the deck out. i'm assuming it has a p solid junk aristos match-up with statiscaster and bonfire main?

Lamp, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah it should, so far i've mainly played vs aggro and jund though which both go fine. turns out the way to break the jund mirror is to play an aetherling, not too surprising

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link

i'm in the market for a new modern deck now, with voices pushing 50 tix and thoughtseizes spiking after their absence from modern masters was confirmed, i want to sell high on those and play something without them until they come back down

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link

i'm still playing u/w/r control which is fine on mtgo but probably not great irl - i like the idea of scapeshift but have never played it so certainly can't recommend it. also there's kibler's deck from gp portland or maybe san diego - the one that eggs won - with knight of the reliquary

Lamp, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link

i like the idea of kibler's decks but there's so much combo on mtgo right now that i'm not sure a midrange deck without thoughtseize is playable

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link

i know i am late to the party here, but boros battleshaper is insane

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 02:25 (ten years ago) link

I had a foil one tonight in my deck

never got to cast it cause I also had firemane avenger, which also wins the game and comes out 3 turns earlier

but yeah battleshaper just takes over the board. if you're playing a 7 drop you want it be more than just a big creature.

iatee, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

managed to trade my voices and thoughtseizes into two entire modern decks, did not expect that

hopefully voice won't get into JTMS price territory and make me look like a fool but i can't imagine a 2-color card surpassing bonfire or sword of war and peace which both topped out at 50

ciderpress, Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link

does it get played a lot outside of Standard? because that seems to be the deciding factor.

frogbs, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link

it's been showing up in various pod decks where it seems pretty good - i don't think legacy is particularly welcoming to g/w rn. i have sold mine when they were @ 41 when i sold most of my mtgo stuff and don't particularly regret it

what decks did you buy into cider?

Lamp, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link

splinter twin and rg tron

twin was basically a freeroll since i was only missing the twins/kikis which are reasonably cheap right now, and i've played the deck to a bit of success in the past. tron isn't great right now and i don't know how to play it well (yet) but it's my favorite modern deck and has the opposite matchups to twin so it seemed like a good complement

ciderpress, Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:22 (ten years ago) link

so 3(586) people for providence? that doesn't break charlotte right?

Lamp, Sunday, 9 June 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link

magic players not having friends probably played into this

iatee, Sunday, 9 June 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

Yeah it was a lot less people than Charlotte. Did you guys end up going? I ended up having no time to think the past week, forgot to check on this thread.

My team's pool was ass but I think we built it as well as we could. We started with an BWu deck that was quite strong, but after that was a struggle. Every deck we built that used green had a horrible curve so we ended up ditching green altogether. We made UWR to make use of Archon of the Triumvirate and Niv-Mizzet, the remaining bombs we had, and the deck was decent. That left a godawful Rakdos deck, that was slightly improved after we plundered the Orzhov deck for black cards. We went 4-4 with several close matches, and we didn't play the last round so we could eat. After the tournament, we went over the pool again and didn't see any better decks to make.

I still had a blast. If my deck is gonna be lousy, I'd rather be playing alongside friends. The communication aspect was really interesting but it took some time to get the rhythm of when we should ask for help.

Vinnie, Monday, 10 June 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link

I almost went w/ a friend but we couldn't coordinate a solid third

iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

the hipster magic store in wburg is doing invasion block draft tonight

kinda want to go but can't justify $25 for drafting sets where I don't know the cards

iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

its a fun draft format - not too different from the DGR drafts of today - but $25 is quite steep when you know you'll likely walk away with less than two bucks worth of cards. those rares have not really held up outside of Vindicate/Deed/Orim's Chant.

frogbs, Monday, 10 June 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

I just won a game on mtgo where the other dude cast armed and dangerous for the win while I had a teysa out - the double strike killed the unblocked creature via teysa before the 2nd strike came. opponent only saw it after he played it, I didn't even realize it until it happened.

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link

he was like "oh no...teysa" and I thought he was mocking me

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link

both those cards are so sick in limited

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link

I kinda hate 'win out of nowhere' cards

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link

looks like travis woo is spreading the gospel of nivix cyclops

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:13 (ten years ago) link

fluxcharger is the one I seem to get every draft and it's worked wonders for me

speaking of cards that just win out of nowhere, played against a Blood Baron the other day and it dawned on me just how much I hate protection, especially when it's from two colors in a multicolor-oriented format

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:24 (ten years ago) link

haha woodlot crawler has been the bane of many of my green decks

Lamp, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link

little guy is such a pain to deal w/sometimes

Lamp, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link

yeah if I see that 4-5 pick I force dimir

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link

I wonder if they purposely hold back on the protection from cause its one of those things that actually frustrates people

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link

gotta get that trait doctoring for max woodlot crawler value :D

Lamp, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:32 (ten years ago) link

I had a draft where I strongly considered picking him p1p1 but went with something else instead (I think Zhur-Taa Druid which I took b/c I wanted to play Gruul). then one was in the second pack as well. Both of them wheel (!!) and I wind up defensively picking them. I don't think people realize how powerful protection is and just how much of a fork it can stick in the spokes of even a well-tuned deck. Especially since the creatures it tends to show up on aren't really underpowered otherwise (see the Exalted M12 Knights).

In a way I'm kinda surprised they are printing protection at all, it's got that combination of frustrating to lose against, no fun to win with, and tough for beginners to understand. I mean how many people thought Black Knight survived Wrath of God? (and as I recall, in Alpha it actually did?)

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:35 (ten years ago) link

ha I actually saw like a 13 y/o kid play trait doctoring/woodlot crawler

iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:35 (ten years ago) link


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