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I'm excited for tonights premiere. Only because I missed the first one last year and regret not seeing Simon be an ass to the really bad people.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a new one already?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

CANNOT. FUCKING. WAIT.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Cannot wait. Fucking.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait! Fucking cannot!

― Yoda (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Paula is supposed to be "tougher".

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 19:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Than leather?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

fucking, wait cannot.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 21:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I just want to be one of the judges that says one completely harsh sentence and makes em cry like babies.

― brg30 (brg30), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

what an awful job. "haha, i get paid to crush people's dreams on national television!"

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Maria, you seem to have misspelled "wonderful".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Can fucking wait.

NOT!!

I think being Simon would be the best job imaginable. He gets to make dreams come true as well as crushing them. But the crushing would be more fun.

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

YAY

― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know if I'm gonna watch the whole dealie through but tonight's episode was hilarious as expected.

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 06:12 (twenty-three years ago)

"You are the worst inger in New York City." HA.

The best part is that the guy wasn't even that bad!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the girl who sang "Fever". And what about the dude who refused to leave. It kind of made me think that some of these people are deliberately thrown in the mix. Who the hell in their right mind (if your that bad) would actually think they have a shot.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)

So come on...who watched it? The two who stood out for me were the big boobs woman and the Frank Sinatra guy. But those two will never make it - they're not cookie-cutter enough.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:03 (twenty-three years ago)

the girl who sang fever was sooooo cute. i think randy got a boner.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I was half watching and then got distracted... the part with the guy who wouldn't leave was PAINFUL and, like everyone else, I have to wonder if all those bad singers could tell that they were that bad.

I thought the twins had some wicked harmonies...

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:20 (twenty-three years ago)

The guy who wouldn't leave must've been there as a goof; I don't see how anyone could actually be that oblivious.

And yeah, the 'Fever' girlie was the best by far. Also the least likely of the Hollywood-bunch to be made a pop star, which is exactly why she should get an automatic bye to the final.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

That Eagle Eye Cherry cat wasn't bad. He did have a shitty appearance though.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't wait to watch the WHERE ARE THEY NOW? on those ppl next month.

― Kangaroo Jaxx (Andy K), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Buck-Tooth sounded just like Jeffrey Osborne, which can be nothing but good. "Fever" girl, Frank Sinatra, the two heavier women and the twins were also fantastic.

There was one girl who was AVERAGE that they gushed over too much and Pimp Daddy would have been fine if he'd done the song in a lower key.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Do pimps cry?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I liked the Doris Day like singer, but Paula was right: she was a little corny.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I felt bad for the sad pimp.

― Kangaroo Jaxx (Andy K), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Do pimps cry?

This is what it sounds like.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)

There was a fellow in my old neighborhood who drove a car with a big sticker in the rear window that read "Pimpin' Ain't Easy." So apparently they do face lots of difficulties, and I'm sure tears are inevitable.

― JD (JND), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)

The twins weren't skinny and Romanian, were they?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)

the sad pimp. Maybe he can pimp his ass back to Kansas City.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, at the very least, he wasn't a particularly RESOURCEFUL pimp.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:03 (twenty-three years ago)

It's like, okay dude, so you're stranded: STOP CRYING AND GO GET SOME HOES.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought the teen who wasn't slutty was actually kind of slutty.

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Not Christina Aguilera slutty, but sent-home-from-school slutty.

I can't believe that judge said to one guy (I forgot all the names), "A little Broadway...." like that was a BAD thing.

― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 22:51 (twenty-three years ago)

They always say atupid shit like that. That's why I'd NEVER use Randy Jackson as a record producer.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 22:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean, JACK OSBOURNE is more open-minded about music outside of his "comfort zone" than Randy is!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 22:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Randy is a real ass. I get a little pissed off at some of their criticisms. Who the fuck do they think they are? Who does Randy produce anyways? And Paula getting critical, gimmee a break.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)

"Play ball."

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 23 January 2003 13:35 (twenty-three years ago)

What about the freaky girl who begged and manipulated them til they let her go to the next round of the competition? I had the feeling that if Randy had said no she would have went on a psychotic rampage.

I have not seen the second half of last night's show, but I had heard just about everybody from Detroit was terrible. Is this true?

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 23 January 2003 13:40 (twenty-three years ago)

the most amazing thing is seeing some of these people let thru who were "eh.. all right" turn into supervocalists
(make that: i hope... ...will be...)

― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 23 January 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Detroit was DISMAL, Nicole. They only picked 22 people.

I'm very glad that pestering girl made them give her another chance because she can sing, she just got nervous. I was also very impressed that Simon saw that. He's not an executive for nothing! My big surprise was Mr Marine, who actually made me enjoy an O-Town song!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 January 2003 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)

The stripper/singer was a friggin riot. What superhero was he supposed to be?

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 23 January 2003 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Never fear, good citizens! SIR PIMPS-A-LOT is here to save the day!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 January 2003 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)

(And I can't believe how mad he got at Randy's suggestion! Dude, you could make like $100K in your FIRST YEAR if you're really that good.)

The mother who threatened to rip off Simon's nuts was CLASSIC, but not as classic as the castrati. If anyone in the classical world was watching that, he's going to get snapped up and trained as a countertenor.

AND can we have a moment for Insanely Happy Girl??? "I love you guys, you're great! Come on, give me the abuse! I still love you...!" [then, in the confessional] "F*CK THIS SH*T!!!!! *birds flipping everywhere*"

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 January 2003 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

And lets not forget the boxer at the end. Lady Tiger, or whatever she called herself. I think she was a plant.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 23 January 2003 14:40 (twenty-three years ago)

how many people did they pick total? (the first time i wrote that i put "how many people did they pimp total?")

― Maria (Maria), Thursday, 23 January 2003 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know how many they have so far, something like 150.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

What happened to the previous winner?

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

She has been packed in oil and bottled awaiting revival on the anniversary show in ten years' time.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Justin (the runner up) and Kelly (the winner) are doing a movie musical called From Justin to Kelly. It looks like it will be an updated version of Grease. Make of this what you will.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)

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The question is, would you have thought he was a heartthrob when you were pre-teen? And would your mother have let you use the phone?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Heartthrob = Josh (he looks just like a high school linebacker) and my MOM would be the one calling!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:45 (twenty-three years ago)

what was josh doing running around?? the man can barely stay in tune standing stock-still, for god's sake. also was it just me, or was watching the judges try not to say "gay" while describing clay's Grease number the suspense highpoint of the series so far?

― jones (actual), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:28 (twenty-three years ago)

josh = daterape heartthrob (seriously, check the faces he pulls in closeup)

clay = bandgeek heartthrob

ruben = 40 yr old lady heartthrob

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:29 (twenty-three years ago)

75% of America thinks Clay is gay, thus his support won't be as strong as Josh or Roooooooooob.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:37 (twenty-three years ago)

yes but 83% think josh would pick a bar fight with them, given the chance, so ???

― jones (actual), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's hear for the 17% who think Josh is played out!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm all hearthrobby over Clay and I'm 24. If I got my hands on him I'd squeeze the religion right out of that boy.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh shit!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Excuse me. What I meant to say was "I didn't see that coming."

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 00:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I bet you always say that on a date.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 00:45 (twenty-three years ago)

josh = daterape heartthrob (seriously, check the faces he pulls in closeup)

He always looks like he's angry at the microphone! His faces are scary.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 8 May 2003 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)

In a way I'm sad to see him go. The show is less diverse without him.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:20 (twenty-three years ago)

If you need your weekly asshat allotment, you can always watch Bill Maher.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:23 (twenty-three years ago)

No, we need to be rid of Josh. America must learn: that country shit don't fly. Ruben is the future.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:25 (twenty-three years ago)

It wasn't that he was country, it was that he was a terrible singer with scary stages moves.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank the Lord we will never be treated to the spectacle of Bill Maher attempting to sing "Celebration".

Granted Josh isn't who I would choose to represent "country" but look at the field now. It seems less substantial.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Tracer, you are mental. I still luvs ya, tho.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:31 (twenty-three years ago)

he was a terrible singer with scary stages moves

*insert 'But I thought you liked Justin' comment here*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait... are Brits watching this show too?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:34 (twenty-three years ago)

They might be. I haven't seen any Brit posters on this thread recently, though.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it just me or did they record the staged video segments onto some VHS tape they found lying around labelled "stuff 98-99"?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Justin isn't a terrible singer; he's just not as strong as first impressions would lead you to believe. He doesn't seem to shine on a song unless he's lived with it for several years.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I must be slow. I thought you were in England, Ned. I can't imagine a more English name.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Clearly certain Anglophilic parts of myself linger on. ;-) Born near Seattle, live in Orange County.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I have finally figured out that the hair is a Vedder homage.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:08 (twenty-three years ago)

justice has been served.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/184858/groening_comics_rot.gif

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Ed was merely trying to cop my style. Regrettably, that also included taking my singing voice.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Soooo, what did everyone think of last night's show?

Last night on aim someone pointed out to me that Clay would sound great if he were working with Vince Clarke, and that sounded to me like a brilliant idea. So now I don't hate him quite as much.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Clay would sound great if he were working with Vince Clarke

Dan to thread! Unless he was the one who suggested it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:56 (twenty-three years ago)

No, it wasn't Dan. I was wondering if he would try to kill me for writing that, though.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:05 (twenty-three years ago)

See, that's the thing. I'm trying to figure it if he would think it is only appropriate or his vision of hell.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:06 (twenty-three years ago)

yay for ruben and clay.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Clay really should have been voted off so that he could go be Fievel in the broadway version of An American Tale.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:30 (twenty-three years ago)

If Clay wins I can't imagine how they're going to market him.

America, here is your new androgynous alien pop idol! (I guess they could remake The Man Who Fell to Earth).

― slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:54 (twenty-three years ago)

he lists James Taylor as one of his favorite artists: he is clearly testing us all

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 May 2003 05:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Would I like Erasure/early Depeche Mode more if Clay was singing the songs? ...Nope.

I like Clay, though. I don't think he should beat Ruben (aka Mr. Infinitely-More-Marketable) but there's a very good chance he will.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Good though I hope Clay does win. Like I said above, I hate the fact that Ruben will have to go around singing cheesy craptacular songs. He needs to be down with P-Diddy.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:54 (twenty-three years ago)

One of Ruben's songs on Tuesday was TERRIBLE, at least by his standards (can't remember which one). I'm sick of Ruben's cute/sad puppy act. He's so enmeshed in pulling That Face of his that he doesn't even notice Clay trying to catch his eye and be buddies. I might be back to pulling for Clay, despite early lameness on "Unchained Melody" he sang the hell out of that song! Dog!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

hah I saw a rock show last night at Discotheque and hated the singing and thought to myself "American Idol has raised my standards"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

on "Unchained Melody" he sang the hell out of that song! Dog!

Justin Guarini was a fule to sing it the very next night -- it just highlighted how poorly he sings.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes it did. Ha ha.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

YAY Ruben!

to be fair, Clay's voice was stronger overall in the final couple of shows: much like how Kelly's voice got blown out towards the end of last season, Ruben's delivery probably peaked around the Neil Sedaka / Robin Gibb shows. and "Flying Without Wings" is no match for "Before Your Love". still, I was rooting for Ruben all the way: much prefer his style of singing than Clay's theatrical dramatics. on Clay's side: his transformation made for great TV...

my own Top 4 faves are Rickey, Ruben, Trenyce & Kimberley Locke.
and Rickey's performances of "It Might Be You" (soaring) and "I've Done Enough Dying Today" (effervescent) are personal highpoints of this season. but maybe 3 or 4 of Ruben's performances were just about as strong (though smoother, more seamless), including "Kiss And Say Goodbye", "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do", "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart".

― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 22 May 2003 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I am still in awe that Ruben made me enjoy a rendition of "Imagine". He deserved to win for that alone.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I just saw the final last night. I'm disappointed to have missed this.

Ruben deserved to win.
Clay reminded me of Dana Carvey.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 23 May 2003 06:09 (twenty-three years ago)

not a bang but a whimper, eh

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 May 2003 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Not a whimper but a shriek! (Or are you not referring to Clay's "tender" rendition of "Bridge Over Troubled Waters"?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 May 2003 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)

ten months pass...

i love josha gracin

― danielle howe, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Odds are that the final four will be Kimberley L, Reuben, Clay and Josh. My gut says Reuben's gonna win.

WHY AM I NOT IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY?????????

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

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