cop intimidation tactics

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have cops ever tried to put a good scare into you?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Not actual cops. But I've had a non-actual cop (university police) try to either intimidate me or just enjoy himself by going through this very serious-business cop-show routine. I would actually have been sort of frightened if the people on the other end of his radio weren't so uncooperative, e.g.:

"Yeah that's Nicholas Ivan Tanner--"
"Hold on, N, I, T--"
"Repeat that's Nicholas Ivan Tanner--"

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

PS he also cuffed me in a basement and did a long dramatic bright-lights interrogation! I think I could have really gotten back at him, because when I had to go discuss this event with an administrator the administrator basically said "he arrested you for what?" and then was really, really nice to me in a "don't sue us" kind of way.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I love the way cops stand. Nobody else stands like that.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:52 (twenty-three years ago)

We were on a college trip in the city (to a Sociology conference *snore*), and we asked this cop how to get to McDonalds, and he gave this big convoluted route (a circle), when it was really just round the corner.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Does tapping on the (steamed up) window of a car with his nightstick (I assume it was a nightstick) and very gruffly asking "what are you doing here?" (I'd have thought that was obvious, really), "what are your names? where do you live?" count? Because if so, then yes. I nearly burst into tears.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Does tapping on the (steamed up) window of a car with his nightstick (I assume it was a nightstick)

Oh, the imagery.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I should be blushing now, I just know it

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

It's the Dan Perry Police!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)

isn't that a cheap trick song?

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:09 (twenty-three years ago)

When I was in HS a friend of mine owed a girl $10. She was in college. It was Halloween, she was in a cat getup. We were in a semi-public place (student union). Friend gave her money, girl left. We made to leave, but gray-haired excop campus security guy stopped us. He started in with some wierd innuendo line about some kind of wrongdoing. Became clear he MEANT something but we couldn't fathom what. He has to come out with it: "you gave money to that girl, I know what goes on."

So so baffling to suddenly be a john.

We stammered our way out of it. [Girl] was amused when told later but we were pretty pissed and freaked. In retrospect he may have been having a laugh, in which case: hoowee doggie funny one dude.

g.cannon (gcannon), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

i've been "marked" by the cops. they said "you have been, what we like to call, 'marked'". life goes on.

Honda (Honda), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Raise your hand if you've been cuffed!

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

*raising hand*

Or did you mean by the police?

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

If a security guard working for MY college had opined to friends that I was a whore of some kind, like how quickly would he have been sacked?

My uncle was head of the Mpls vice squad in the late '70s/early '80s. Strange TV movies have been made about his work. In 1995, 3500 cops showed up for his funeral, plus pretty much every politician and local media person going. Therefore even here I have no fear of cops (it's amazing how they'll be very very careful what they say or do when you mention you write for a broadsheet newspaper when meeting them, say when your friends are being searched for drugs).

Basically, if I wanted cops in Mpls to leave me/friends alone I had *the* name to drop (but never abused privileges re: getting in First Avenue or actually doing anything shifty). Lately I've had to let cops into friend's hotel room after a huge altercation and did little wind-ups to them, eg. saying 'please' at the end of sentence if they didn't put it there themselves.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)

(taking sides: haughty-hottie Suzy vs. snotty-hottie Suzy vs. cops)

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I grew up in a small town where there wasn't a damn thing to do and I didn't have access to a car to leave very frequently. I slept late and stayed up late, so when I was bored, I walked around town. Over and over again, the cops -- all of whom knew me, since my mother was the tax collector and my brother ice-fished with the chief of police -- would stop me by driving up real slow with their high-beams on so I couldn't see anything and had to stop where I was. Over and over again, they asked who I was and what I was doing, and eventually I just stopped acknowledging them and walked past them.

One of the detectives visited my mother at the town hall to tell her my life would be easier if I'd shave and cut my hair.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:59 (twenty-three years ago)

hell yes. searched for drugs more than a few times. during college years, i got pulled over while riding a bycycle once and couldnt stop laughing so the bastard cuffed me. never been arrested though.

kephm, Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I was once walking towards the bus stop after an evening spent playing D&D at a friend's flat. A police car pulled up, and one asked me where I had come from. A flat just up the road there, I said. What have you got in the bag, one asks me. Some small metal elves, I say, in what must have been a sarcastic tone. OK, he says, and they drive off. Nice to know they aren't wasting their time, I thought.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 23 January 2003 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

::Spits at monitor inadvertently whilst laughing::

'Some small metal elves' would have been great in a Brizzle accent.

Nabs, the 'I write for the Observer' drug search of 1994 happened when there was a £10 bag of zoot in my satchel. I was stopped with my friends driving through Bishopsgate Checkpoint Charlie; they were ravers taking some amps to a party. The driver was v. posh, her dad worked for the Home Office in Tunis. One of the boys decided to SPARK UP on Tower Bridge so van cabin REEKED when stopped routinely at post-IRA checkpoint. Search of boys ensued while they waited for wPCs to search us. Boys did hijinks while being searched so cops took eyes off us and our hands for seconds - enough time to hide bag of zoot in (already searched) obscure part of van. WPC searched us, asked what we did, got told, perked up a bit, found nothing. We drove off going PHEW (I may have told story elsewhere).

Just because I can think on my feet doesn't mean I wasn't shaking like an elastic band after this!

suzy (suzy), Friday, 24 January 2003 00:45 (twenty-three years ago)

friend lost her passport, she goes to the cops and says so; cops tell her someone else of her nationality claimed to have lost her passport the week before and was CAUGHT OUT in a LIE. a woman at the next desk over helpfully adds "yeah, and we put your FRIEND in jail overnight!" further details, though unasked-for, were forthcoming: the other woman had said she'd lost it in Central Park, the cops said "oh that's easy, we have cameras all over the park, we'll just review the videotape!" other woman buckles and admits she hadn't lost it at all. my friend on the other hand had the chutzpah to see through their bullshit, steadied her jangling rubber-band legs, and carried on - for all appearances she has nerves of steel at times like these. hats off to all those on this thread and elsewhere who stand up to the pigs!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:25 (twenty-three years ago)

A sadly true story: Friend gets new red laser pointer. Friend is in second-story room of an office building at night, with other friends. Friend wants to show-off new laser pointer. Friend's friends turn-off office lights. Friend shines laser out window over cars in parking lot. Friend then says "Hey, see that guy gettin' out of that car? I bet I can shine this laser on his chest." Laser reflects off badge as parking-lot guy falls to ground, rolls under car, draws firearm, and calls for back-up.

So, finally, building surrounded, friend and friend's friends come out of building acting innocent. Cops yell "hit the ground," rush in, and form a protective barricade to usher friend and friend's friends to safety.

Friend act blase, thanks cops for the escort, and drives away.

Now he's convinced that it was a karmically bad decision and that he will be paying for it for years, so he never argues over tickets, etc. and donates heavily to law enforcement charities. Oh, and he gave me that laser pointer :)

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:33 (twenty-three years ago)

you'd be shocked how little respect being a lawyer gets from cops. OK, maybe you won't be. still, you'd think that since (most of us) have learned about criminal law, criminal procedure, and the Constitution, that they'd go easy on the cop bullshit.

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, say it isn't so, Tad!

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, having dated both cops and lawyers (yeah, was into that uniform thing followed by the suit-and-tie thing) I'm not surprised by the news - most of the cops I know view many lawyers as being the ultimate enemy ('cause the lawyers are responsible for the bad guys not going to jail, near as I was able to determine).

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:44 (twenty-three years ago)

well, if they follow the law and the Constitution, then they won't have to worry about lawyers and perps being set free, now will they?

then again, i don't know why they're so worried about that nowadays, what with Asscrotch and the Rehnquist Court bending over backwards for them.

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:47 (twenty-three years ago)

*snarfing* Oh, that's priceless! I gotta remember "Asscrotch"!

Seriously, though, the whole civil liberties crackdown has me more than a bit concerned.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Ooohhhh...I just thought of *my* cop anecdote - and it ties in with the handcuff survey, too (though I must say that I prefer the fur-lined ankle and wrist cuffs to those nasty metal things that cut into the skin and cut-off the circulation, thereby shortening my time to torture my victim!)

Anyway, at age 17 I jumped a man in a parking lot, after seeing him haul-off and knock down the woman he was with. I saw red and went after him. To make a long story short, I was arrested on assault charges, he was arrested on battery and drunk in public, after we're both treated by the paramedics (I busted my knuckles and bit through my lip - he was worse off) we ended-up at the police station. Get this - the cops told him not to file charges 'cause it would make him look bad to admit in court that a 17-year-old female had beaten the crap outta him. So I walked free. One time I think the justice system worked in my favor.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd say in Ireland if you said you wrote for a broadsheet paper they'd smack you in the mouth. I was harassed by some fucker last year for waiting for my friend to get a burger. He said I was loitering and when I said I was waiting for my friend and pointed him out he asked if I wanted a summons. I should have asked for his number.

The police here are funny, a friend joked today that we should call the police to shut up this 7 year old Into The West scruffy kid busker who was singing the Fields of Athenry over and over and over in Temple Bar square outside the flat I was in. It was like Finbar Wright getting molested or something. Anyway we joked you'd have them sending a riot squad down and just knocking heads and making nonsensical comments like "noone leaves till we find the busker".

As ridiculous and implausible as that joke was it still kinda sums up how folks see the police here, ie an organisation with a tendency to completely misread situations wherever this is possible, they'd send a traffic cop to stop a mass murderer etc etc.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 25 January 2003 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)

as bad as it is to be handcuffed it's loads worse when they actually put you in JAIL

J0hn "oor, mine were a misspent youth" Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
last night me and the lovely etc. doubled up on a turnstile getting into the subway and were immediately apprehended

she didn't have ID on her

we were told that we had two strikes against us, doubling up "which is an arrestable offense" and not having ID "also an arrestable offense"

i think the second thing is complete horseshit?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 May 2003 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

These are the days of heightened alert, Tracer.

That Girl (thatgirl), Sunday, 4 May 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe they meant if you commit a crime you have to have ID? i'll try and remember that

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 May 2003 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

After my brother had some stuff stolen from his room (which is a story in of itself), he was chatting away with a cop in his room when he noticed my brother had a roll of uncut dollar bills hanging on the wall. The cop asked, hey, where'd you get this? I said off-handedly, oh, they sell them at the Philadelphia Mint, we got these rolls on vacation. He got (or acted) really offended, and started calling me a real smart-ass. I was like: HUH? So here he is insisting that I was being a fucking smart-ass and here is me insisting (very very politely) that I was NOT being a fucking smart-ass (like the fifteen-year-old me would smart-mouth a cop) and it took my brother's interference to shut me up. My brother found this funny, which told me that the cop was just fucking with my head. Which really puzzled me: what the hell did intimidating me accomplish?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 4 May 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

If you get the amount of bullshit and abuse that cops get heaped upon on a daily basis, sure you're going to be bitchy with the general populace. It's because the only times they see the general populace are the worst times.

I have a total of nine relatives who are cops. All of them have told the family some truly heart-racing stories, and four of them were shot in the line of duty (vs. being shot at, which all of them of course have been). One of them has worked undercover for seven years. He's visibly aged since then.

I'm never unkind to cops and never would be. If they were being unduly unkind to me, I would make mental notes of them all, note their badge name, ask for their ID #, remember all the little data points of the incident in question, and then report them. If that doesn't work, there's always the court system. But I would never be uncooperative. That's always a deal-breaker and no way to ingratiate oneself to a cop.

Dee the Semi-Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 4 May 2003 19:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to 'cop' (haha) an attitude w/the police and would always get out of my car when pulled over--this AFTER getting a bunch of BS tickets while I was a delivery driver in college, but then realized that is a very stupid thing to do. Now, I'm nice as pie to them. Friendlier to them then my own momma.
Haven't got a ticket for a long long time, but was pulled over late at night for a 'loud exhaust' (coughbullshitcough). He asked to search us citing the bag of Steak n'Shake we had as evidence that we were smoking weed. I very politely told him I didn't want him to search my car and he said 'too bad, it's my perogative'. WTF?!?

buttch (Oops), Sunday, 4 May 2003 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I was driving into a show in DC with some friends and we stopped for beer. I think 2 of the 5 people in the car were under 21 and none of us had been drinking yet. So the cop, who was in the parking lot of this 7-11 the entire time, comes over to the car proceeds to ID everyone and ask a bunch of questions. We all knew there wasn't anything he could do to us so we patiently answered him for a couple minutes.

Eventually he shines his flashlight into the back and notices the milk jug of water on the floor (the car had a bad radiator). "What's that?" he asks as my friend hands it to him. "Uh, its water". Then I heard about the dumbest thing I think I've ever heard anyone say: "It doesn't look like water".

After we eventually stopped laughing he let us go with some vague warning about not making trouble in his County.

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Sunday, 4 May 2003 19:47 (twenty-three years ago)

A LESSON IN WHAT NOT TO DO: in HS, my friends got pulled over and were all high as hell. The cop was looking around and saw a baseball bat. He asked what it was there for. My friend blurted out 'SELF DEFENSE'.

buttch (Oops), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:20 (twenty-three years ago)

In college once I was pulled over for speeding. The cop had me get out of the car and open the trunk up because I had my comforter stowed in the back of the van, and it was visible from the rear window. I think he made some remark along the lines of 'looks like it could be a body.' I enjoyed that.

I also made my way into the drunk tank once. I was apprehended outside of a bar in downtown Monterey the same weekend that Tiger Woods was 'assaulted' on Pebble Beach. The cops were out in force and I got lucky. I spent the night in a cell and went home with a warning. I can't recall if they tried to 'intimidate' me per se, but I did get cuffed and tossed in the back of a cruiser in front of a bunch of people. Apparently I was yelling and cursing the whole time. Not one of my prouder moments.

Millar (Millar), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:45 (twenty-three years ago)

oops, what is steak-n-shake?

That Girl (thatgirl), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

fast food place

buttch (Oops), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:49 (twenty-three years ago)

dee— the lively emma b got a bit, eh, lively and on the way to the transit stationhouse (about 40 feet away) was told "you better tell your girlfriend to be cool, she acts like she's looking for trouble", and he was right. i am always 100% pliant and easy with cops. i try and get them to very clearly define their terms but then i do whatever they tell me to do.

i thought steak and shake was one of those little packets that has steak and crumby flavor dust inside, you shake it around before you fry it?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)


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