very weird programme.
the lou reed-looking one said that [s]he couldn't imagine that women could imagine the sex drive that men have or, men, that women don't have. and that it was only, really, transsexuals that knew the truth. this made me think that no-one knows the truth because they don't know what it's like to be a man or a woman. in the complete sense [not just talking penises].
transsexuals?
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 January 2003 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― alix (alix), Friday, 24 January 2003 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Gordon (Gordon), Friday, 24 January 2003 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)
Viewpoint 2: transsexuals don't know what it feels like to be either a man or a woman.
I tend to side with the second one myself, even though it looks a bit pessimistic and depressing when stated like that. However, that doesn't apply to libido; from what I've read, libido changes are one of the most noticeable results (to the patient, at least) of hormone therapy.
Daft pseudo-philosophical aside to the above viewpoints: do *any* of us know what it's like to be a {man,woman}, or do we only know what it's like to be ourselves?
― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 24 January 2003 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 24 January 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)
(i almost typed CKY underwear...)
― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 24 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 24 January 2003 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 January 2003 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 24 January 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 January 2003 16:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 24 January 2003 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)
I've a close friend who's a post-op F2M - he says now that he's "a man" he's coming to terms with emotional issues he couldn't address when he was seen as being female.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 24 January 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)
My lady-parts are *really* nice.
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 24 January 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)
No one can ever know what it's like to be "a man" or "a woman". There's more going on than how much testosterone is flooding your system. Certainly if one is socialized as female all his life, his experience of being "a man" would be different than that of someone treated as male from birth.
― M, Friday, 24 January 2003 18:16 (twenty-three years ago)
From the conversations I've had with one M2F transsexual in particular, what Nabisco mentions, plus those who feel a kind of erotic attraction to the idea of being the other sex, are not uncommon. The one transsexual I've got to know well clearly wasn't in those categories at all, but was someone who was desperately uncomfortable and unhappy with the male aspects of their body as long as she can remember, i.e. from a very young age, and especially since the onset of puberty. She absolutely knew it was all wrong, and very horrible, and had always felt that she needed a different body.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 24 January 2003 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:16 (twenty-three years ago)
?
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 25 January 2003 03:31 (twenty-three years ago)
The follow-up was the doctor was trying to make this some big case for himself, to prove his theories, etc., and it turned out he was totally wrong. I think the mother ended up committing suicide, too.
― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 25 January 2003 03:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 25 January 2003 03:50 (twenty-three years ago)
the michael also said that [s]he went to one of h[er/is] daughters' plays at college and walked up to her father [her "other dad"] in the queue and chatted away to him and the dude didn't recognise michael and asked the daughter later "who was that guy??" and he had been married to h[er/im] for seven years and michael was recounting it and laughing with tears of more than one kind, it seemed.
― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 25 January 2003 03:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)
She (born 'he') does a great line in floral shirt-waisters.
― Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)
"There are visible bits of evidence that 2010 will be remembered as the year of the transsexual. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/09/fashion/09TRANS.html?hp
― buzza, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)
whoa Franco!
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:53 (fifteen years ago)
I know several trans-people. They tend to be either really cool or like super weird. Just like anyone really
― Tilda Swinton Wreck Up A Dread Dub (admrl), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:56 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/california-transgender-laws_n_1004109.html
Big ups.
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 23:55 (fourteen years ago)