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Cheddar cheese is so called because it is made in Cheddar,England.Am I to belive that there is also a place called Cheddar in Scotland,Ireland and also in Canada?Does this constitute a breach of the Trade and Descriptions Act?I've never heard of Bulgarian Wensleydale,probably because they use their own local place names when refering to their locally-produced dairy products.

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Saturday, 25 January 2003 03:14 (twenty-three years ago)

well, it supposedly originated in cheddar, england but it's made everywhere; in america most cheddar comes from wisconsin, i would think.

geeta, Saturday, 25 January 2003 03:16 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 25 January 2003 03:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I've visited Jack, Head, and String myself. Nice towns.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 25 January 2003 04:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Some of the best American cheddar comes from the Oregon coast (Tillamook brand) and from Vermont. The former puzzles me, though, 'cause there aren't that many cows around the town of Tillamook, so I don't know where their milk is imported from. Maybe it's like that Simpson's episode where the kids were being fed rat's milk?

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I've stayed in Tillamook before. And I've driven through it. And believe you me, parts of 101 in Tillamook definitely smell like an incredible simulation of cow manure at the very least.

The funny thing is.. I went to this pizza place in the downtown area to get a meal before my stay, and it was the most disappointingly mediocre pizza I've ever had.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 25 January 2003 05:53 (twenty-three years ago)

donut bitch - I ended-up in Tillamook coming across the coastal range from Portland - must'a missed the cow doo-doo pasture-lands.

Criminey - now I'm craving the Tillamook smoked cheddar - and their ice cream, too!

Sad about the pizza place - my favorite "entertaining place" to eat on the Oregon coase is at Moe's, in Newport. I was so disillusioned to learn that their "famous clam chowder" came from cans :( Totally ruined one of those fond childhood memories of mine.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 25 January 2003 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)

but the only decent Cheddar is mature Cheddar anyway, coz that's actually got some flacour to it. The majority of Cheddar isn't worth bothering with, whehn there are so many other tasty interseting cheeses to choose from! If David Gray is music for ppl who don't like music, then Cheddar is surely chesse for ppl who don't like cheese.

When I visited Cheddar Gorge the cheesemaking place was the only tourist attraction I didn't bother with. The gorge, the caves and the view from the top of the gorge - now they are class. As are the cream teas.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark H - that's called "snobbery," there. As for the rest of us poor slobs, we'll eat plenty of plain every-day cheddar cheese and enjoy it. Often we will do so without a complementary '97 Cabernet to bring out the cheese's subtler undertones. Horrors, I know. But we get by somehow ;-)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 25 January 2003 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

eating cheddar cheese before sleep tgives you nightmares which you can remember vividly, says the old wives tale. i tried it last night. i had a mildly unpleasant dream which i can remember reasonably well.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 25 January 2003 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm quite happy to be considered a snob where cheese is concerned. I compensate with its regular bedfellow, bread, tho. Quite often I will buy the cheapest of the cheapo sliced bread the supermarket has to offer, only splashing out on the likes of ciabata if I'm entertaining.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark H that is hilarious -- I am a bread snob! I will eat the plainest garden-variety cheese (not that I don't also love the 'spensive stuff) but I gotta have fresh nice handmade bread!

everyone has his point of snobbery in some regard I'd guess :)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Mark. Cheap cheddar is just rank but I'll eat crap bread as in many contexts it's just there to be bland (eg. marmite on toast).

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I like marmite on cheese on toast. All three ingredients should be the cheapest possible.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually yeah, when cheddar is melted or in cooking it doesn't matter so much.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a theory re- the taste of cheese which was dismissed as utter rub by my colleagues once. That is, that *grated* cheese tastes stronger than just slabs of cheese, on a/c of the larger surface area of cheese coming into contact with one's tastebuds. I observed this from the fact that grated cheddar cheese sandwiches are bearable, whereas one swith slabs of cheddar are really bland.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:49 (twenty-three years ago)

You are right and your colleagues are fools.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

The cheap mild cheddar is my favourite sort anyway.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you spend money on anything but records, Martin? Remind me how much your suit cost again.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)

My last suit cost £70 as I recall. I have since bought a tie, three shirts and a new pair of trainers, which totalled nearly another £18.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Yesterday I bought one novel (11.10 euro) and five cds (65.75). But sadly no cheddar.

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

At a party once I took a bite out of a loaf of cheese which was in the fridge and put it back. It was disgusting, I hate non melted cheese.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There's no such thing as a loaf of cheese, you idiot.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:01 (twenty-three years ago)

toasted ciabatta, buttered, then mango chutney (sharwoods), covered in thin slices of supah-cheapo cheddar and marmite, retoasted = mmm

then nutella obv

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)

whatever, the phrase just came out, why can't you let it go

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate melted cheese. Ronan, we are destined to be together!

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:06 (twenty-three years ago)

there is a chalk/cheese joke here somewhere!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you like melted chalk too?

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Who doesn't

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Me.

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

i am a total cheddar snob. the stongest, most mature cheddar = key.

otoh i was up most of the night being sick and have only just braved a banana, so threads like this make me feel v jealous off ppl eating any kind of cheddar full stop.

toby (tsg20), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Why does liking smelly cheese make you a snob? Do you eulogise about it in a grandiose fashion?

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 25 January 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

tillamook rox0r

ron (ron), Saturday, 25 January 2003 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

"I like marmite on cheese on toast.All three ingredients should be the cheapest possible."

Cheap cheese is usually bearable,if not a bit tasteless.Cheap bread is only good when toasted,but still palatable.But as genuine Marmite tastes so horrible,I'd hate to think what cheap marmitey stuff is like.Or does it work in reverse,i.e cheap cheddar=yuk,expensive cheddar=yum.Expensive Marmite=yuk,cheap marmite=yum.

help!

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Saturday, 25 January 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

There is no choice in Marmite: there is only Marmite itself. I get that at its cheapest by buying large jars from cheap supermarkets, but it's all the same stuff. I confess to hyperbole.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 January 2003 23:17 (twenty-three years ago)

expensive marmite has 24 kt gold shavings mixed in

geeta, Saturday, 25 January 2003 23:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I have investigated and found that there IS such thing as budget Marmite,but it is called 'yeast extract'.I don't know what it tastes like,but I bet it ain't much better than the original stuff.And swapping the labels between Marmite and Bovril jars can cause much suffering to marmite users.

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Saturday, 25 January 2003 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

And thinking about it,if you spread yuk marmite on yuk bread,do they cancel each other out?

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Saturday, 25 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

We are in housewarming mode here (yay!) and we are devouring a wonderful 'French-style' cheddar from Trader Joe's called Mimolette. Works great with a Chilean merlot!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 January 2003 00:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I assume Martin meant that own brand 'yeast extract' tastes exactly the same as Mamite. Only cheap (well, sometimes by about 2p) , inferior Marmite is Vegemite.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 26 January 2003 01:17 (twenty-three years ago)

At the risk of yet again revealing my vast ignorance at all things British, or at least not American, what is Mamrmite? And what is Vegemite?

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 26 January 2003 01:20 (twenty-three years ago)

everything you ever needed to know abt marmite (inc.dr vick on dutch equiv!!)

OUDE GOUDE!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 January 2003 01:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Many thanks, Mark. That was a truly enlightening thread that I had missed.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 26 January 2003 01:52 (twenty-three years ago)

The maddest cheddar is probably clocked in the Bronx.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 26 January 2003 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)


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