A kiss is just a kiss.

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We live in an age of ‘Mwah Mwah’ air-kissing where people proffer their lips to say hello and goodbye; is there a danger in the practice?

If two people kiss on the lips should we assume that they want to sleep with each other? Is a meeting of the lips a tacit admission of adultery?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Is a meeting of the lips a tacit admission of adultery?

As long as both sets of lips are the set that make up the mouth, there is no adultery.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan Perry stop it!

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan's answers really are better than coffee when it comes to pepping you up in the morning.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

*That's* not a 'kiss' anyway, is it? It's lingus.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

"Lingus is just lingus".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I've gone right off coffee these days. I want a pocket book collection of Danisms.

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Not when you forget a 'g' and the whole Peanuts crew get involved.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

The weird thing about that comment is that it could almost apply to both of the previous ones.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Perhaps the anthony calendar could feature daily danisms?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

The Daily Dang - It has to happen!!!

― smee (smee), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh. My. God.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Not when you forget a 'g' and the whole Peanuts crew get involved.

And you had the nerve to tell me to stop it?

"Good grief, Charlie Brown! I've never cum so hard in my life!"
"Let's see you pull this ball away, Lucy!"
"OMIGOD SCHROEDER YOUR FINGERS ARE MAGIC!!!"
"Sir... yes, sir... mmm, like that sir, you SEXY BITCH!"

I DID NOT NEED THESE IMAGES IN MY HEAD.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)

We have found the breaking point. This rivals the Calvin and Hobbes scenario.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I have just exploded.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)

At least you had the good taste not to include Snoopy.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

"I guess she isn't a real redhead!"

(Many apologies to Lara for filling what could have been a sensible, interesting thread with Peanuts porn. I still stand by my original point, which is that equating kissing with adultery is silly. And yes, I inculde full-on open-mouth-and-tongue kissing in with that; it may indicate the DESIRE to commit adultery or go on to other sexual acts, but as far as I'm concerned lines don't get crossed until things start happening below the neck.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

They are no longer IN YOUR HEAD. They are now IN EVERYONE'S HEADS.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE CALVIN AND HOBBES SCENARIO.

I get a C+H cartoon emailed to me everyday to cheer up my mornings. Images of Suzy and Miss Wormwood doing things would fuck up my cerebral cortex cerebelum brane thing.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd quite like to know what people think in answer to my original question... *sigh*

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I think if tongues get involved then that's emotional/sensual betrayal.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I kinda think a kiss is just a kiss but my fiancé has a whole other take on it (perhaps this is a trust issue between us though!) He reckons men don't view kissing the way women do (sweeping generalisation, I know)and that for men a snog is always just the opening act so therefore it's a sexual act for them, at least in their heads anyway. I disagree, although I do think it is an emotional betrayal it's not infidelity.

― smee (smee), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm thinking less about tongues and simply the kiss itself. As some man once said: "Two ultra-sensitive strips of epidermis endings cannot help but create a flash of intimacy."

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Intent is all.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I've got, *ahem*, some books, about, things, and one of them says the best way to turn a woman on is to kiss her. So, *ahem*, yes. I agree with that. It seems to work. Peck on the cheek = peck, not kiss. Kiss on the lips = posible tongue slippage = sexual act = INFIDELITY!

I ain't kissed anyone since I been kissin' Emma.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

smee, that's just silly. I mean, okay there's probably some desire there, but so what? Unless you actually sleep or mess around with someone, you haven't really done anything unforgivable.

I don't know, kissing is just a completely different entity to me from other physical interactions, I think largely because there's no way that you can chastely give someone head.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

(Or, in other words, if a passionate I-wanna-do-more kiss happens and the participants stop before going on to rumpy-pumpy, there's an implicit recognition of a line that shouldn't be crossed going on, while fondling genitals/breasts/buttocks basically says, "Line be damned! GRATIFY ME NOW!" and shows that satisfying physical needs are more important than fidelity.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Aye, but the kiss is still a betrayal, just not on the same level. I'm sure Emma would kick my ass if I were to snog some girl. I wouldn't mind if she snogged some girl though.

PS; Emma, if you read this, I ain't playing Monopoly wit' you again. Last night was embarassing.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Nick, how would she feel about you kissing another girl ON THE LIPS, not knowing what intent you had? Would she see it as a red-blooded obscenity?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm. I guess I see what you're saying, and I'm not saying that everyone should have free reign to go make out with whomever they want regardless of marital/relationship status. What I am saying is that I think it's completely inappropriate to react to your SO kissing someone else as if your SO had slept with someone else. I think I'm also saying that it shouldn't be a relationship-ender.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

But he should definitely be beaten with a big stick?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Depending on the kiss, I can see getting into trouble for it. Full-on tongue action is (and should) going to cause an argument. Closed-mouth smacks on the lips shouldn't, largely because as you imply you can't know intent, and my take is that if you always assume the worst in situations like that, the feelings of mistrust your partner will sense coming from you will eventually turn one of those closed-mouth smooches into full-bore tongue-and-tonsil action, followed by hands-in-pants stickiness and boatloads of regrets/resentment/anger/confusion/heartbreak/etc.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I had to live with the after effects--SO SHOULD YOU.

Creating 'personal meaning' from your tragedies by narcissistically foisting silly legislation on the masses: Classic or Dud?

but, kissing, no, doesn't have to mean anything other than plain affection, of course. it's all about degrees...like everyone already said.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Lara, it's not quite the adultury thing (althoughTracer mentions it), but this thread is me be paranoid about social kissing and making a really weak joke about N's typos.

(I can't do hyperlinks anymore, sorry, copy and paste time)

Kissing

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, it does it automatically now. I'm pleased by that.

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

> I had to live with the after effects--SO SHOULD YOU.

Eh?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:43 (twenty-three years ago)

click the link?

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:50 (twenty-three years ago)

You want me to read the whole thing?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:54 (twenty-three years ago)

you can stop if you vomit.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

So as long as your partner doesn't tongue-kiss a giraffe, all's well?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Read lower, babe.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 07:09 (twenty-three years ago)

A joke is just a joke.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 08:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Sometimes not even that.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 08:43 (twenty-three years ago)

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