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I'm interested in what newspapers people on here read - daily and/or Sunday.

And if indeed people still tend to buy a paper every day or as web inhabitants do you just read articles on the papers' websites?

I would hazard a guess that the Guardian would be the number one choice of UK-based ILXers (young, mostly urban, mostly ABC1) but I could be very wrong.

And I'd also be interested if US-based ILXers read a daily newspaper. Obviously the newspaper landscape is very different over there with only USA Today (and The Onion!) as a truly national paper. But do people outside of New York read the NY Times, outside Washington read the W Post etc?

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Personally I read The Guardian, and The Observer on a Sunday (though I went through a period of reading the Indy on Sunday several years ago).

And I much prefer holding the paper in my hands than reading it all online.

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:30 (twenty-three years ago)

i read the Daily Mail, PURELY to get all riled up in the morning

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Guardian, Observer and Economist, plus Google news.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

do you ever watch What The Papers Say? on BBC2 saturdays? its very entertaining, esp. the way they have narrators voicing the tabloid headlines in deliciously ott accents e.g. Sun headlines read out in the style of Garry Bushell etc.

the host of the show (forgot her name) is VERY biased as well, constantly mocking the tabloids quite bitterly for their ostentatious racist overtones

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:33 (twenty-three years ago)

i'll read Metro if when travelling to work by train as well, its easy on the eyes - no cack-handed waffle/opinions to worry about either

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Metro is chocked full of pernicious nasty narrow minded Daily Mail opinions.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Guardian, Observer. I think I see a trend developing. I do read the Indie from time to time, perhaps I need to look at a broader political spectrum...

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

bits of the sunday times.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The Guardian. Its smugness and London-centricity annoy the hell out of me at times, but it doesn't necessarily offend me. I sometimes give the Independent a go but I prefer the G's crossword.

The Manchester Evening News from time to time. I don't usually read the paper on a Sunday as the Weekend Guardian is enough.

― Tag, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Guardian, but not that often. I always used to get one to read on the train to work, but now my journey is either a seven minute tube journey or a 50 minute walk it's a bit pointless wasting 55p on something I'm only going to glance through.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I have to read the Times, Torygraph, FT, Grauniad and Independent every day for work and all of them have things that bug the hell out of me, although I think the Indy does this less.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I read the The Irish Times every saturday. I read The Irish Examiner if I am travelling to Cork. Occasionally I buy the Guardian or Independent. I don't like Sunday papers, and I'm not convinced by UK saturday papers.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Won't touch the Guardian with a barge-pole. Don't read papers except the web, and Metro when I get my hands on it (I find the lack of overt editorialising refreshing, there is a much better proportion of international news than any other tabloid and the letters are v.v.funny).

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

The Guardian. Its smugness and London-centricity annoy the hell out of me at times

Fair point and ironic given the (Manchester) Guardian's origins, which are constantly played upon (setting up a separate Northern edition etc) despite the fact that at least 50% of the restaurant reviews (as with the Obs) are of EC1 establishments. ("Hang on a minute, we've not mentioned The Eagle or Masion Novelli for a while")

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:47 (twenty-three years ago)

brighouse echo

― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 12:51 (twenty-three years ago)

hmm, i suppose you're right about Metro's Mail-fed opinions, i just dont seem to notice them

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

It is a great shame that we no longer have regionally based national newspapers any more in this country. The Italian newspaper media is refreshing due to its scattered nature. Its in the 50s in many other respects, but you can't have everything.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, James, restaurant critic Matthew Fort in particular encapsulates everything I hate about the Guardian.

A return to the Manchester Guardian would be my perfect paper.

― Tag, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I gave my answer to this question on this thread, James:

What paper do you read?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Irish Times generally, Guardian occasionally but I don't often allow myself the extra euro to buy it, I can read the Irish Times for free, of course.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Guardian on Mondays for Red Roy H and I like the economics bits as I can sound intelligent in pub debates and hide my ignorance of economics. Guardian occasionally on Thursday for the techie section, and saturday for Burchill and the Sport.

Observer on Sunday, though with a heavy heart, as it pisses me off massively, but what else?

Independent on Saturday occasionally for Dave Conn's football column.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

The Observer is now so bad

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I live in Boston and get the NY Times daily. I like to read the paper first thing in the morning and they can deliver it to my door before 6am. I read the Boston Globe on the weekends for some local color but it infuriates me too much to read on a daily basis.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

N. is OTM

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, N, I knew there'd be another thread somewhere.

When did you used to work for The Guardian? And doing what?

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)

The observer has really gone downhill since the new mag came out. There is hardly anything worth reading in any of it any more.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

We get the Guardian and the Express at work every day, plus Economist and New Scientist every week. I don't read the Express, but bits of the others when I get time, plus there's Le Monde/Nouvel Observateur if I feel like a challenge (rare). I buy the Saturday Guardian but hate some of it. The 'let's move to...' column is particularly good for highlighting the Londoncentricity - the downside of Gateshead was 'it's a long way away'. Ha!

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

James, I worked there for four years till this July in the 'Research and Information Unit' formerly on the 2nd floor but then shunted down downstairs to that crappy bit past IT and next to Scanning.

It's weird. When I was on Sinister a fellow upstairs Guardian employee popped up there too (Louise).

No one does any work at the Guardian.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh and James, seeing as no one American has answered your question, I believe the New York Times is the only 'local' paper to have a genuinely nationwide readership.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 13:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Did you work with Mike Pike?

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

the host of [What The Papers Say] (forgot her name) is VERY biased as well, constantly mocking the tabloids quite bitterly for their ostentatious racist overtones

What The Papers Say is a great show. It has a different host every week, though.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-three years ago)

i didnt realise it was every week!...i only catch it once every 2 months or something

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I live in the American midwest and I've been a diehard NY Times reader for about seven years now, although I've switched to the online version since I graduated uni and lost the great student rate. I read the paper version of USA Today and my local paper and the paper of the nearest large city every day. Online, I skim the Independent, Guardian, FT, NY Post each a couple times a week. I also get AP newswire right to my computer since I work in the media, yay!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

None, really. I have a weekend subscription to the LA Times but otherwise eh, and I don't generally scan papers' sites -- there's enough information overload I'm going through as it is. Basically if something via the BBC news site or the like catches my interest I will do some further scrounging elsewhere -- this site, run by one of the librarians here, is the best overall collection of media links I've ever seen.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 15:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Frankfurter Rundschau, die tageszeitung, Der Standard, and the FT, sometimes FT Deutschland as well.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Paper: I subscribe to the Washington Post and read it most days. I usually pick up the Financial Times weekend edition, and I always pick up the Washington City Paper (a free weekly).

Online: Selected bits of the NY Press and the NY Observer.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)

ceefax

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Ceefax has literally hundreds of pages.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Page 003 on Ceefax is disappointing

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:47 (twenty-three years ago)

The Globe and Mail, The Edmonton Journal. The Mop and Pail is good, national, slightly leftist, decent arts section. The Jnl is local and not a tab. Oh and the thing said about the gaurdian and london, my problem with the globe and toronto.

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I like to peruse the Washington Post or the local paper on Sundays while drinking coffee and eating pastries. Though, I mostly stick to the real estate and arts sections.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Page 666 is grebt though.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I read the Telegraph sports section and the odd obituary.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

(I also read my home town newspaper on the Interweb -- http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi-bin/read/TOP.html -- as a reminder of where I'm from and where I must never return.)

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

To answer the above question, I wouldn't really call USA Today America's national paper, it is a piece of crap! Just market driven to pander to the lowest commom denominator (sorry if you already knew that). Growing up in the DC area, my family got: the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, The Richmond TImes Dispatch, the Alexandria Gazzette, the Fairfax County Journal, the Cavalier Daily, I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but we were a bit mental. Papers of repute in America: NYT, Wash. Post, LA Times, though the NYT stands heads and shoulders above them all, not that it is any mean shakes in itself. Wall Street Journal is a pretty good paper, though it and NYT have recently gone even more high class pandering than before (Weekends, and Excursions, ugh). I just get the NYT now though it is most often stolen by the time I wake up --hey! it's 1.45 in the afternoon now, I'm gonna check and see if it's there!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I get the Washington Post national weekly edition, and steal the Sunday edition of the New York Times from my S/O.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Guardian six days a week (I understand the criticisms, but it's no contest for me), plus the Independent On Sunday. I switched from the Observer a while back, but don't much care for either.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Guardian and Observer mostly, a little bit of the Mirror if they're trolling Dubya, and occasionally dipping into the Times if I've got an article in it.

Oddly, I never seem to read the Independent, unless we're at Ed's dad's house and there's one lying around.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Washington Post. My branch chief brings it to work most days, and when that fails we have a DowVision link at work with the WSJ, WP & NYT among others.

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

USA Today, the NY Times, and the Wall Street Journal get national distribution. There's talk of the Washington Post going national, if only over disgruntlement towards Raines. I read the Times.

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I am somewhat ashamed to say that I frequently read the Philadelphia Inquirer, mostly because I like having some local new mixed in with everthing else. Occasionally I will also read its tabloid companion, the Philadelphia Daily News. I like the fact it will sometimes confront class and race issues more directly than the Inquirer does, but on the other hand, it can be nauseatingly jingoistic at times. I sometimes pick up the NYT. If I could afford the Wall Street Journal, I would possibly subscribe, since it has some pretty good news coverage. Otherwise, I look at a lot of things online, mostly using google's news interface.

― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)

The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal., and the Post when there have been pit bull attacks. No other paper covers them as thoroughly.

And lots of things on line. But I prefer having the paper in my hands.

― JD (JND), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

The NYT, WSJ, Washington Post, and LA Times are all considered national general newspapers (there are specialty business/politics/etc. ones too), though the first two are read more widely. USA Today as well, but "McPaper" is generally considered to be without substance by the knowledge class in America (although on occasion they're wrong). Political conservatives would add the Washington Times, the Moonie-owned wingnut paper that does have some claims for credibility, notably Bill Gertz, one of the leading Washington reporters in the country. There's also the Christian Science Monitor, national largely by virtue of not being tied to a locality, but it's well-respected and occasionally gets a scoop. Beyond these there are 20-40 well respected "local" papers in small to big cities around the country (some of the small ones better than papers from big ones). The New York Times-owned Boston Globe recently instituted a weekend section that sounds pretty substantive and is getting attention outside of Boston, particularly given its attention to the early phases of the Presidential race (NH is in the neighborhood).

I read the NYT semi-regularly, particularly op-ed columnists Paul Krugman (the best angry truth-teller in years) and Tom Friedman. I rarely read the WP, which I really should (although I religiously read their food critic's weekly online chats, and I don't even live in DC any more). I'm relatively addicted to the Drudge Report online, and check the wires/tv news websites pretty often (including the BBC for world news that CNN just isn't going to do as well). Occasionally I'll also look at the Guardian. I go online to find something in one of the NY tabloids (Daily News, NY Post) only when I see an intriguing headline on the subway and have to find out what it's about (latest example - Irv Gotti being investigated by the FBI).

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 30 January 2003 06:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yeah I forgot NYC tabloids are key.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 January 2003 06:13 (twenty-three years ago)

My paper wasn't there by the way:(

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 January 2003 06:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a weekend subscription to the LA Times as well, occasionally will go out and buy the NY Times and if I'm feeling a little homesick, the NO Times-Picayune

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 30 January 2003 06:16 (twenty-three years ago)

the NYT stands heads and shoulders above them all

Many consider the WP comparable, especially the Raines-hataz.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 30 January 2003 06:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I get NYT 7 days a week. I used to subscribe to to the WSJ and it actually is a quite good paper for reportage, but as I originally got it for econ/stock stuff - and all that is nowadays readily available online - I let my suscription lapse. It's a good thing as I can barely make it through half the Times every day (man, what the heck did your family do w/ all those papers, Mary?!)

I gotta second the Christian Science Monitor as well! That's actually a really good paper. My old landlords subscribed to it. As we shared a common mail shute - and I would arrive home a couple hours before them - I would always read through it.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 30 January 2003 06:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha ha -- we used them for insulation!

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 January 2003 07:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Some days, I'm glad I read the Guardian - today G2 had articles on both Phil Spector (admittedly not surprising) and Serge Gainsbourg. Two heroes (one fallen) in one day.

― Tag, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...

Bump!

The Independent. It used to be the Guardian but the Indy's opinion pages are fantastic and I love the compact format. Though when the Guardian goes that way too I might think about switching back.

― Crackity (Crackity Jones), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't care; I still read the Guardian every Saturday. It's like a ritual or something. (And Country Life every Sunday but that's another story.)

Every day news comes from the interweb. I don't see papers as a source of news and/or information, but more of commentary and review.

― Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

I might buy The Grauniad one Saturday a month. But I'm always unsatisfied by it somehow. And then I think about how much space it will take up in the paper recycling box. Bleh.

What's the latest on a forthcoming tabloid-format Graun tho?

I bought the Mirror on Sunday just for the football results.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Though I did 'enjoy' (not quite the operative word given the situation) the Mirror's major Bush bashing this time too.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Guardian if they've got it, Herald if they haven't or if I need a reliable TV guide. I've never quite been able to settle down with the Independent. Maybe I should try again.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

'reliable' = 'don't need to cross-check regional variations'

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I heard the Guardian was going to go 'mid-size' now, something between tabloid and broadsheet. Bloody typical.

I get the G on Saturday for the crossword [haha next I'll be getting the Torygraph 'for the crossword' and on that day you may shoot me], and skim through it and the Independent at work during the week. But news comes from the radio, mainly.

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

xxpost - Try it, it's great. I, too, get my info mainly from the net and also TV news. Papers are for nodding sagely in agreement with Johann Hari/other liberal or lefty commentator or gawping incredulously at Bruce Anderson/other rightwing fuck. More the former though, there isn't much bile in the Indy. Also the letters page.

― Crackity (Crackity Jones), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Guardian going midsize -> a nation of paperboys take out a contract on Alan Rusbridger.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

the guardian goes "berliner" on monday.

'reliable' = 'don't need to cross-check regional variations'

i'm still not forgiving you for that :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I did struggle with the Sunday Mirror crossword I must confess. Fortunately Alix bailed me out more than once.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

I get the Mirror mostly for its crosswords/puzzles page! Codeword being the best thing ever.
Guardian on Saturdays, partly for the Guide but also so I can work myself into a nice righteous ire about its lifestyle section and the columns in the Weekend. News I'll get off the internet; papers seem to be only for editorialising/silly season stories.

― spontine (cis), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

We live is Massachusetts and buy the NYTimes and the Boston Globe every day except Sunday, when we get the Times only or occasionally the Sunday Washington Post out of nostalgia for the days when we both lived in that area.
The Globe is a lot better than the times on pop music, plus they have an advice column! I love hearing from the people with the bad mothers-in-law and the girls whose boyfriends want to have sex but they're not ready. The NYT never would stoop so low, stodgy farts.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't the Times own the Globe?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Yes they do. There was an immediate reduction in the physical size of the Globe when the Times bought it, which pissed everyone off. Are they trying to say we provincials are all a bunch of tabloid-readers??? But the Globe has its own identity. It's OBSESSED, for instance, in the scandals of the Catholic church.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I like any Sunday paper that carries Parade.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

In Step With...

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

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― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

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― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I'd take Marilyn over (Sunday NYT Magazine) The Ethicist anyday. What a bore that guy is.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Slate.com on absolute fire with Jacob Weisberg as editor. No shortage of talent on this masthead.

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

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