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psychological vs physiological, can we be addicted to anything - certainly when people talk about addiction obvious chemical addictions arise - but when psychological addictions occur (ie the difference between being addcted to heroin and crack) does this mean we can become addicted to anything if our brain demands the pleasure.
If for instance we found smelling old people to be the biggest rush could we become addicted to that?

james (james), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I've heard it said many times that anything that is pleasurable is addictive in a way.

I mean, obviously if you experience something that makes you feel really good, you're going to feel a bit deflated when it's taken away. The more intense the sensation, the greater the trough of dispair afterwards.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course we can be addicted to anything. However how do you define addiction? Is it necessarily *negative*?

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 15:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i guess the negativity would only arise from potential 'negative situations' that may arise as a direct result from one's addiction.

james (james), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

What bizarre addictions do you have?

I think one of mine is socks.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I eat ice.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm addicted to NyQuil. Can't get to sleep w/o it. It's a step up from booze at least..

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:30 (twenty-three years ago)

If for instance we found smelling old people to be the biggest rush could we become addicted to that?

Years ago I read of a (Czechoslovakian?) man who was found to be addicted to carrots -- when he went too long without eating some he demonstrated the symptoms associated with withdrawal.

I've heard it said many times that anything that is pleasurable is addictive in a way.

On the neurotransmitter level the perception of pleasure is associated with certain biochemicals. I can imagine that if that biochemical rush is associated with a certain trigger one might want to repeatedly stimulate it.

Bear in mind that the cultural baggage around the word "addiction," at least as it's used in the U.S., frequently presents it as a failure of will, which gives the word so negative an image.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:33 (twenty-three years ago)

"Bear in mind that the cultural baggage around the word "addiction," at least as it's used in the U.S., frequently presents it as a failure of will, which gives the word so negative an image."

Is there a positive side to addiction? I mean, I can think of plenty of harmless addictions, but none that actually benefit the addict.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)

some people are addicted to the endorphin rush from exercise. If not taken to an extreme, you could view this as a positive side to addiction.

When I am too warm and eat ice, then I become less warm. (Sometimes I eat too much ice and my tounge gets too numb to talk well, though.)

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...

http://health.yahoo.com/news/176635

Video game addiction: A new diagnosis?

June 21, 2007 02:58:00 PM PST

The telltale signs are ominous: teens holing up in their rooms, ignoring friends, family, even food and a shower, while grades plummet and belligerence soars. The culprit isn't alcohol or drugs. It's video games, which for certain kids can be as powerfully addictive as heroin, some doctors contend.

A leading council of the nation's largest doctors' group wants to have this behavior officially classified as a psychiatric disorder, to raise awareness and enable sufferers to get insurance coverage for treatment.

In a report prepared for the American Medical Association's annual policy meeting starting Saturday in Chicago, the council asks the group to lobby for the disorder to be included in a widely used mental illness manual created and published by the American Psychiatric Association. AMA delegates could vote on the proposal as early as Monday.

It likely won't happen without heated debate. Video game makers scoff at the notion that their products can cause a psychiatric disorder. Even some mental health experts say labeling the habit a formal addiction is going too far.

Dr. James Scully, the psychiatric association's medical director, said the group will seriously consider the AMA report in the long process of revising the diagnostic manual. The current manual was published in 1994; the next edition is to be completed in 2012.

Up to 90 percent of American youngsters play video games and as many as 15 percent of them — more than 5 million kids — may be addicted, according to data cited in the AMA council's report.

Joyce Protopapas of Frisco, Texas, said her 17-year-old son, Michael, was a video addict. Over nearly two years, video and Internet games transformed him from an outgoing, academically gifted teen into a reclusive manipulator who flunked two 10th grade classes and spent several hours day and night playing a popular online video game called World of Warcraft.

"My father was an alcoholic ... and I saw exactly the same thing" in Michael, Protopapas said. "We battled him until October of last year," she said. "We went to therapists, we tried taking the game away.

"He would threaten us physically. He would curse and call us every name imaginable," she said. "It was as if he was possessed."

When she suggested to therapists that Michael had a video game addiction, "nobody was familiar with it," she said. "They all pooh-poohed it."

Last fall, the family found a therapist who "told us he was addicted, period." They sent Michael to a therapeutic boarding school, where he has spent the past six months — at a cost of $5,000 monthly that insurance won't cover, his mother said.

A support group called On-Line Gamers Anonymous has numerous postings on its Web site from gamers seeking help. Liz Woolley, of Harrisburg, Pa., created the site after her 21-year-old son fatally shot himself in 2001 while playing an online game she says destroyed his life.

In a February posting, a 13-year-old identified only as Ian told of playing video games for nearly 12 hours straight, said he felt suicidal and wondered if he was addicted.

"I think i need help," the boy said.

Postings also come from adults, mostly men, who say video game addiction cost them jobs, family lives and self-esteem.

According to the report prepared by the AMA's Council on Science and Public Health, based on a review of scientific literature, "dependence-like behaviors are more likely in children who start playing video games at younger ages."

Overuse most often occurs with online role-playing games involving multiple players, the report says. Blizzard Entertainment's teen-rated, monster-killing World of Warcraft is among the most popular. A company spokesman declined to comment on whether the games can cause addiction.

A woman in the New Haven, Conn., area who bought the game for her 15-year-old son last year, says he got hooked on it.

"Now that I look back on it, it's like I went out and bought him his first Jack Daniel's," said the 49-year-old woman who didn't want her name used to spare her son from ridicule.

Dr. Martin Wasserman, a pediatrician who heads the Maryland State Medical Society, said the AMA proposal will help raise awareness and called it "the right thing to do."

But Michael Gallagher, president of the Entertainment Software Association, said the trade group sides with psychiatrists "who agree that this so-called 'video-game addiction' is not a mental disorder."

"The American Medical Association is making premature conclusions without the benefit of complete and thorough data," Gallagher said.

Dr. Karen Pierce, a psychiatrist at Chicago's Children's Memorial Hospital, said she sees at least two children a week who play video games excessively.

"I saw somebody this week who hasn't been to bed, hasn't showered ... because of video games," she said. "He is really a mess."

She said she treats it like any addiction and creating a separate diagnosis is unnecessary.

Dr. Michael Brody, head of a TV and media committee at the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, agreed. He praised the AMA council for bringing attention to the problem, but said excessive video-game playing could be a symptom for other things, such as depression or social anxieties that already have their own diagnoses.

"You could make lots of behavioral things into addictions. Why stop at video gaming?" Brody asked. Why not Blackberries, cell phones, or other irritating habits, he said.

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On the Net:

On-Line Gamers Anonymous: http://www.olganon.org

marmotwolof, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/character7.article.jpg

"to-day's young people are isolating themselves with these so-called 'novels'"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

The telltale signs are ominous

I read that as "the telltale signs are onimo's"

:)

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

Better video games than heavy metal, eh?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

eight years pass...

Life is addictive.

surm, Saturday, 15 August 2015 00:26 (ten years ago)

Sounds like a tagline for a summery beer

five six and (man alive), Saturday, 15 August 2015 02:53 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

Is anyone else as pissed off about this "ABQ cop who adopted a heroin baby" story as I am? Everything about it is wrong, aside from the basic fact that this cop did a good thing. the incessant coverage about why he did a good thing; the constant follow up about what next good thing he's going to do; how he's going to save the birth parents; the vilification of the parents...fuck, this whole thing makes me want to nuke New Mexico and the US and the Earth more than I have since...well, last week.

akm, Sunday, 17 December 2017 21:34 (eight years ago)

Wrong thread, go away

brimstead, Sunday, 17 December 2017 21:56 (eight years ago)

I mean, there's like 80 million threads on ilx for whining about shit you see in the internet.

brimstead, Sunday, 17 December 2017 21:57 (eight years ago)

this is a thread about addiction and I'm talking about a high profile (US based, obviously) media story about an addict so I don't see what's wrong with the thread but thanks for your shit opinions.

akm, Sunday, 17 December 2017 22:54 (eight years ago)

six months pass...

Addiction is the absolute worst. It’s ruined so many of my friends lives, and has always made them choose their vice over everything else. As a recovering addict, the voice of addiction lies and cheats your mind, makes you irritable until you get your fix and desperate as well; it’s like stealing energy from later for now, but then you wake up the next day in a spiritual ditch.

It’s also hard to love an addict, as they are committed only to their drug above all else and on some level are not trustworthy. Addicts I’ve known feel an immense shame for their addiction but the truth is most of them would rather continue than to face withdrawal, which is hell and can kill you too. Anyways makes me sad

Ross, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:07 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Going to kick tomorrow !!!

calstars, Saturday, 22 May 2021 22:14 (five years ago)

Wish me fucking luck

calstars, Saturday, 22 May 2021 22:19 (five years ago)

Good fuckin luck calstars! You can do it!

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 22 May 2021 22:29 (five years ago)

good luck, calstars <3

brimstead, Saturday, 22 May 2021 23:30 (five years ago)

godspeed!

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 May 2021 23:32 (five years ago)

Best of luck!

pomenitul, Sunday, 23 May 2021 00:54 (five years ago)

addiction is gnarly and it will fight back. but if you can carry on through the early and middle rounds it will tire and you can outlast it. good luck!

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 23 May 2021 02:56 (five years ago)

Good luck calstars!

Lily Dale, Sunday, 23 May 2021 04:09 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

Gonna kick tomorrow

calstars, Sunday, 13 June 2021 23:30 (five years ago)

Best of luck. I’m rooting for you.

treeship., Monday, 14 June 2021 00:57 (five years ago)

I really hope you aren't turning this thread into a joke

sleeve, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:00 (five years ago)

I found the general 12-step approach to be extremely helpful, fwiw

sleeve, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:00 (five years ago)

or u can go all Buddhist with the 8-fold path, whatever

sleeve, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:01 (five years ago)

I’m not at all sleeve

treeship., Monday, 14 June 2021 01:01 (five years ago)

he wasn't talking to you

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:02 (five years ago)

oh ok sorry

this is also some good reading:

https://harmreduction.org/about-us/principles-of-harm-reduction/

sleeve, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:03 (five years ago)

(all my posts were intended for calstars)

sleeve, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:04 (five years ago)

treeship I have you killfiled because you are tedious and annoying, FYI

sleeve, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:06 (five years ago)

good luck calstars, and anyone else reading this with a bit of hope flickering

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 14 June 2021 01:06 (five years ago)

I couldn’t care less sleeve. I just wanted calstars to know I wasn’t mocking his recovery.

treeship., Monday, 14 June 2021 01:26 (five years ago)


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