Being in a Band with your S.O. - C/D

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Inspired by kate's jamming with her crush's band...

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 January 2003 13:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably a nightmare of personal trauma, regret and obsession

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I always heard it was a total no-no. One band I was in really wanted a second guitarist. I did not even consider my bf because I assumed he wouldn't want to be in the same band and thought it was a total faux pas. But then one day he was like, "Hey, Why haven't you asked me to be in your band? DO you not want me around so much?" He had already sat in on a couple of our practices, and no one was against trying him out. So we did and we were in the band together for a couple of years.

I think it was really good for us as a couple because we had to face new challenges together. Plus, we began our own side project together. Since then, we have been in a few random projects together but we have also had bands of our own. I think at this point, especially because we live together, it's important that we each have our own thing going on.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Split the songwriting credits evenly, and you'll be richer than anyone else! (See Chris n' Tina from Talking Heads).

Have a horrible break-up and get more material! (See Fleetwood Mac)

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)

being in a band where 2 other members are "attached" is dud as well. REALLY dud.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD!!!

OK, it is my dream, I'd love to find Tim & Latetia or Thurston & Kim style bliss with the dirty dronerocker of my dreams, but it ain't gonna happen. In my case, it would be more Jason & Kate. Being in a band with your honey causes problems both in the relationship and in the band. I've done it before, and it has been a raging disaster. I won't even be in a band with a couple any more.

Saying that, however... apparently Hilton's band all sleep with each other and they all work together and live together in a big commune somewhere in Hackney and it totally works for them, because the friction generated by it all makes them more creative. Or something. I must say that I'm totally intrigued by the idea, and I'm really fascinated, and kind of dreading jamming as well as looking forward to it.

kate, Friday, 31 January 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah trying to set up the drums RIGHT NEXT TO the guitar and all is a nightmare, and once they start fighting it's like Doctor Doolittle or something.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Old concert footage of Fleetwood Mac is so full of energy and emotional tension. (But I can't help thinking of Lucy Lawless in her mexican restaurant commercial on SNL whenever someone mentions FM).

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

apparently Hilton's band all sleep with each other
Band orgie???

I can see how my ex-bandmates might have gotten terribly annoyed at us for ganging up on them. But I think that the bassist and his gf were more obnoxious than we were even though she wasn't in the band. She would watch our practices and then pull him aside and whisper comments in his ear. Then, he'd come back and say, "*ASD*F*D just suggested that we..." Total Yoko action (and nothing against Yoko, just an expression).

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

(But I can't help thinking of Lucy Lawless in her mexican restaurant commercial on SNL whenever someone mentions FM).

Sarah, I am RIGHT THERE WITH YOU on that!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:13 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, this is the worst case scenario I've ever been in... A garage band in NYC that shall remain nameless to protect the guilty.

Singer and Lead Guitarist were a couple. Within a week of joining as the bassist, I started sleeping with the drummer. (Ironically, the night that I first went home with the Drummer, the Rhthym Guitarist had got in a massive fuckoff row with his girlfriend, and suggested that I spent the night at his place.) Within a couple of months, especially after touring, it became painfully obvious that me and the Rhthym Guitarist were deeply in smit/lust/crush with each other. We never acted on it because it would have broken up both relationships, and therefore the band. It was fucking hell. Me and RG had to share a mic Beatles-style, with loads of longing glances and near kiss "oops, I went for the mic and our lips touched by MISTAKE" sort of things.

I was eventually kicked out of the band, and the drummer dumped me the next day. A year later, RG broke up with his girlfriend. He rang me and we were literally in bed as quick as the N train could get me to Bleecker Street. Of course it didn't last, but he is the Great Lost Love Of My Life.

kate, Friday, 31 January 2003 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, it would be soooo dweamy.

chris (chris), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Kate, That's a pretty dramatic Behind THe Music story line. You might as well go ahead and die. (Note: I don't want you to die - Just sounds like your life has been pretty interesting already.)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

are you saying you want to form a band chris?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

i can't get on with bandmates as it is.

i would've thought not being in a band with yr SO was the first rule in the book. but what do i know?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)

don't all sad indie boys with no musical talent?

chris (chris), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)

So Cabbage that would make you Struan and then... actually I don't think that works.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm twice the man he is. Probably quite literally, judging by his skinny gait.

chris (chris), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)

and yeah, I'm not sure Vicky's going to be too happy with that either!

chris (chris), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

The drummer and other guitarist in my band are married, and it's uncomfortable sometimes, but for the opposite reason than most of these posts. The guitarist is a very nice guy, but he lacks some social skills, and so when the drummer (the wife) messes something up or plays the wrong speed or whatever, he's not very good at telling her so in a nice way, like padding it with compliments or anything. He's just like, "I think you played that way too fast." Then she's obviously uncomfortable, so I try to say something nice to take the sting off. It's weird. Maybe he just doesn't realize that he might be hurting her feelings. I guess that's more due to his poor communication skills than their being married, but he doesn't say anything like that to me or the bass player.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

too bloody right!

Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

"I think you played that way too fast."

scathing.
no need to dress it up with compliments, wife or not. if it's too fast, it's too fast, and telling them straight is the best way, surely?

"I think you played that way too fast." is hardly going to cause a band to implode or a couple to divorce.

it's just a fact, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, in order for that to be really bad, you'd need to stick a "you dog-faced CUNT!!!!!!" on the end of it.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:54 (twenty-three years ago)

that'll do the trick, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess I'm not explaining it right. It's the combo of how he says it and her reaction. It's not going to implode the band or cause a divorce, but it certainly makes things uncomfortable.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)

just steer it away from implosion and toward divorce and everything will be alright.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I knew Kate would've had a strong opinion on this thread before I even clicked on it ;)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Just have a one-person band and the only one you'll have to take to bed is yourself. Er.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Looking for an opinion from FG2 ....

Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

as soon as my ex and i broke up we started a band. it's going good now, no regrets/squabbles and trying to keep it fun. we're not like big drama queens or anything though...

gygax!, Friday, 31 January 2003 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been in a trio where the other two were lesbians that lived together and it was one of the best bands I was ever in.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)

(Nickalicious was the Craig Logan of t.A.T.u.)

Graham (graham), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave Slash Julie!

Lara (Lara), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I had to defend being a one-person band last night. I should have said "it cuts down on politics, and masturbation is better than sex anyway!"

So isn't anyone going to ask me how jamming with Hilton went? (The bastard really *is* stealing "Hilton Betelgeuse" from me. Sigh. I think I'll trade my intellectual property rights to it if he does a Hilton Betelgeuse Remix of one of our tracks... seem fair?

kate, Friday, 31 January 2003 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Even though no one cares, I'll tell you anyway.

It was fucking traumatic as hell. But when it was good, it was really really good. Better than sex. Except it probably only made me want to sleep with him more... It's nice having an excuse to stare at him for three hours straight... God, is he lovely! ;-)

Musically, it was quite difficult. It's very complex music, lots of Free Jazz influence (I've decided that even though Free Jazz is WANK to listen to, it's very challenging and therefore actually quite FUN to play) and, like, 9/8 time signatures and things.

It really was an ego-shredder in some ways, because, as we used to say in horseback riding lessons, I wasn't riding, I was just holding on. It's been a long time since I played with a band that wasn't my own and that I wasn't totally comfortable, so it was difficult adjusting, and keeping on my toes. I can't BELIEVE that I have totally forgotten how to read a keyboard upside down and back to front. Anton and I used to jam like that all the time, till we could stop and start with each other on a dime. I don't know Hilton well enough to do that, and I've forgotten which frets correspond to which keys! DUH! I am a fucking idiot, I thought it was like riding a bike, that you'd never forget, but I did. And I didn't do enough preparation. I only played along with 2 songs on the album - those I played quite well on (just not what I think he wanted) - but the others? I was totally out of my depth. I am SHITE at playing by ear. I cannot solo by ear at ALL and I felt like an idiot for not being able to repeat what he kept singing at me. I didn't have any cheat notes, and half the time he didn't even seem to know what keys songs were in. Argh!

When I think about it rationally, I think that it's actually pretty cool that I can walk into a band I've never played with, hear songs I've never heard, without sheet music, and play in a style I know nothing about, and even keep up at ALL. I should be proud of that.

But no... I just totally lost my confidence and feel like a twat cause I feel like I played really badly in front of Hilton when I really wanted to impress him. And I looked a twat, this dumb garage punk trying to play along with Serious Jazz Musicians and just making a horrendous noise. I feel like I let him down. I feel like I let myself down through playing so badly. :-(

But it was a good experience. I certainly LEARNED a lot, and on the pure dronerock songs where we just took one riff and shook it for all it was worth, it was cool, cause I got to do some freaky stuff I never could have done with my own band(s). Lots of progged out eBow and tremolo shit, and there were *moments* where... I was just looking at Hilton as he played and he looked at me and smiled and it was so THERE.

I doubt that I'm EVER going to be good enough to be their guitarist. But I probably would do it again, just as a learning experience. Though I doubt they'll ever have me back, even just to sit in. Well, maybe just to sit in if I don't get in the way? I don't know. I don't think I'll be asked back, I just don't.

Though it really was cool to see Hilton in action, because he is just SO amazingly free form talented and creative and dynamic. He really does make my jaw drop, how good he is.

kate, Friday, 31 January 2003 23:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I have those Tim/Laetitia type fantasies.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 31 January 2003 23:21 (twenty-three years ago)

i still have those king loser nightmares

forbidden or obsolete (24 hour troubleshooter), Saturday, 1 February 2003 00:02 (twenty-three years ago)

What about being in a band w/your B.O.?

That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 1 February 2003 05:18 (twenty-three years ago)

i've been in a band with some others but they weren't very significant

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 1 February 2003 06:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Di's comment wins the thread!

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Saturday, 1 February 2003 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)

DUD! I went to see Mates of State who are a two-piece twee band who's records I thought I sort of liked, but when I went to the show not knowing they were married.... The two of them kept gazing into each others eyes singing love songs. It made me truly ill.

phil-two, Saturday, 1 February 2003 08:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Kinski seem to evade all the cliche problems with gf/bf bands...

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 1 February 2003 09:37 (twenty-three years ago)

of course there are others in the band, too.. but still, my point, etc.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 1 February 2003 09:38 (twenty-three years ago)


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