Should tax money be supporting the royal family

i think britain is a pretty pathetic country at the end of the day, and recent events pretty much confirm

Lords should be a democratically selected.

Sorry. I'm becoming a Maoist in my old age.

Off with the feudal head of this country's constitutional structure.

Dave Fischer - what you have been told is indeed crackpot conspiracy blah BUT I have no explanation as to why the British didn't chop their heads off a couple of centuries back like the French did.

Well, funnily enough?

BREAKING: the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have just basically quit the Royal Family. pic.twitter.com/n3oipRPBX1

— Julian Abbott (@JulianBAbbott) January 8, 2020

How's the ginger twat intending on making his money?

Nude snooker matches in Vegas, having demonstrated competence in the field before.

xp America

Someone finally took that DNA test.

Tbf they could absolutely coin it in in America and not have to deal with the Daily Mail obsessing rampantly over Meghan stepping out of a car the wrong way on the way to a memorial or whatever

WeWork probably has a spot on the Board open.

Time for Andrew to make that comeback.

would be great if this means meghan markle is back on tv

Looks like the peasantry are going to need a new scapegoat, luckily there's lots of black people around they can choose from

Time for Andrew to make that comeback.

Tbf they could absolutely coin it in in America and not have to deal with the Daily Mail obsessing rampantly over Meghan stepping out of a car the wrong way on the way to a memorial or whatever

MailOnline is huge in America, don’t you worry. Also the only UK paper for sale in many parts of the US.

Yes but they’ll have access to friendlier media in the US and I imagine they can be a bit more honest about what they think.

> not have to deal with the Daily Mail obsessing rampantly

17 pages of coverage after yesterday's news, apparently. and an almost entire radio 4 breakfast news show (although thankfully no gyles brandreth that i heard). i can see why someone would want to step away from this.

I imagine they can be a bit more honest about what they think.

which will be breathlessly reported in the uk media as 'harry and meghan SLAM royals, demand queen's head on a pike' and, like koogs says, be accompanied by multiple pages of meghan upskirts and royal baby pics

Big “everyone in knives out describing themselves as “self made” energy

— Kath Barbadoro (@kathbarbadoro) January 8, 2020

this miriam margolyes story is incredible pic.twitter.com/xbTfglj6dH

— the bird of britain (@theseagullah) January 9, 2020

Such a 2003 question

2020 question: how long have we got?

how rich are you?

Also a lot of friends posting a reworking of the 'Get Out' poster.

Her majesty The Queen, earlier today. #Megxit pic.twitter.com/CMZEmE26QC

— twitch.tv/Limmy (@DaftLimmy) January 9, 2020

limmy, as ever, otm

in these difficult times, spare a thought for this poor bastard

Royal mega fan John Loughry has been at countless Harry and Meghan events over the last two years.

Now he says he’s disappointed with the couple, saying they’ve let the Queen down.

He feels he now has to choose a side - Sussexes vs Royals. pic.twitter.com/efaSik4bhH

— Anna Stewart (@annastewartcnn) January 9, 2020

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HT3CNM/stephen-and-matilda-rivals-for-the-crown-of-england-1932-artist-rosalind-HT3CNM.jpg

Harrowing stuff.

Maybe he should split the difference and kill himself

GET A BRAIN MORANS

To those genuinely upset about Harry & Meghan still staying at Frogmore - "SPONGING OFF OUR TAXES" - don't worry. Their wedding was estimated to have brought in between £300m and £1b in revenue, so they've made us far more money than they'll ever rinse out of us via a new kitchen

— Caitlin Moran (@caitlinmoran) January 9, 2020

EveningStandard: "Madame Tussauds swiftly removes Harry and Meghan waxworks from Royal Family set"

Still maintain if the royals are actually a tourist attraction they'd be better value killed and stuffed

tbf tussaud was way ahead on this point: http://rodama1789.blogspot.com/2013/10/madame-tussauds-head-of-robespierre.html

(content warning if clicking thru and you dislike depictions of beheadings)

(that aside the little blog essay is interesting: tussaud was also something of a grifter!)

Still maintain if the royals are actually a tourist attraction they'd be better value killed and stuffed

― The Masked Zinger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, January 9, 2020 8:36 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

famously no-one ever goes as a tourist to france or the united states

that's bcz france killed their royals and the US stuffed theirs *highfives self*

I have a friend who worked at Madame Tussaud’s while at UCL and they ‘borrowed’ her to pose as a plague victim for one of the tableaux. I’m pretty sure Kay’s waxwork is still in situ.

Plague's never gonna go out of fashion

too busy to give this more than a v sketchy glance: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/harry-and-meghan-royal-family-surveillance-capitalism/

my conclusion = in the right territory, with maybe a few over-glib shortcuts to shove home a modern point viz "This is an institution founded on the idea… that (southern) England is the core of the realm" -- yes but no not really, london's overswollen ultra-centrality is recent rather than foundational, as is the over-valuation conferred to its marches viz the "home counties" (a term that post-dates the civil war): the fact that york is one of the two archbishoprics and that the title of duke of york was always conferred on the monarch's second son etc. had serious weight a couple of centuries back (bcz aristocracy still had serious weight) -- norman culture e.g. was abt effective garrisons and uneasy family rivalry (hence the wars of the roses)

HOWEVER the main argt is abt shift within and adroit use of mass media and here i think it's roughly correct and good (i need to watch THE CROWN S3 to reorient myself on e.g. the 1969 royal-life-at-home documentary (which i don't recall being the catastrophe the writer says it was, but i was only 9 when i last saw it lol)

so much disappointed grandparental rage concentrated into this cartoon! "they move to the city, they grow a hipster beard and fraternise with ethnics, they never visit, they have no money, they never call, we even murdered their mum that one time but did it change anything?!!!"

https://i.imgur.com/E74CuzE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/E74CuzE.jpg?1

how dare harry presume to sponge off gran and dad, who earned their money the proper way by being born into the monarchy

i mean the underlying if unstated argument is the thread's argument: "we pay for them, they must dance to our tune"

'we pay for them, they must dance to our tune at the end of a rope' is how i break my underlying argument down to an extent tbrrwu

*revolutionary fistbump*

Oh noes, they're giving up their HRH titles!

They must realize that even after all this hoohaw the tabloids won't back off one inch.

"giving up" may not be entirely voluntary. still, my heart bleeds.

Does it look like they quit over paedo Andy?

lol no

they wouldn't have even got to know him that well until they had some pre-pubescent children in their house tbf!

That's unfair, as far as we know he's only raped pubescent children.

yeah ..that's the story he told his mum!

https://66.media.tumblr.com/416b9eabfad9445e77d8c2ae736a3d48/268758fb7070ea1b-c8/s540x810/2a329c73c6d422466ada6b88af788c457dd62719.jpg

Not much difference tbh. To me it proves Harry actually is Charles' son, eyes two centimetres apart is a Saxe-Coburg family trair.

yeah, the "hewitt is his da" thing is a lot of pish, would be a lot less of an ugly bastart if cha wasn't his da

my culture wars hot-take is: do the fucking lot of 'em in - in very messy romanovs painting the walls in a dark cellar stylee, including miss marple!

^

"It is a pity the royals aren't what they once were, I wonder if its worth doing away with the ones that aren't the Queen and letting the public vote on their replacements"

that democratically-elected queen in full

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fhayochifabricfilms.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F09%2Fpadmefull3senatenocloak.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

https://25yearslatersite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/midsommar-flowers-e1574684928940.jpg

The Queen is alright but the rest of them are all just part of the establishemnt, Harry and Meghan proving that but what can you expect, The Queen is the only working class one in there, the others havent got a clue!

My worry is if the royal family completely lose touch with their working class roots, as seems likely, whether the institution is strong enough to survive

Prince Andrew seems really unlucky in his choice of mates

Maybe the Queen will cark it in January while the country is already at a standstill.

Not sure Phil has another year in him tbh.