People Who Live In Suburbs: Classy, Icky, or Dudes?

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we just sad "fuck it" and didnt maintain our "lawn" at all this summer, so I'm going to have to bust out my third-hand oil-leaking smoke-belching mower one more time before winter, but I'm definitely asking for a pushmower for christmas or something. so neccessary.

rustic italian flatbread, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

--solar-powered mowers
--let that shit grow naturally
--let that shit not grow naturally

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:51 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

looks like granny dainger just solved the suburbs

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

granny dainger what are the pros of having a lawn

Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

iirc its human nature to want one

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

so get rid of subsidies/make people pay for externalities...what are all the consequences of that? more people move back to cities--->urban real estate gets even more expensive;

I don't mean to keep weein in your proverbial flange, gran, but I feel like you are missing a piece of the supply and demand puzzle. urban real estate is artificially high due to limitations on how much housing stock can be developed in urban cores from zoning restrictions etc. so increased demand alone does send prices skyward. but with the freedom to develop housing, ESP multi family housing, without the typical requirements that create sprawl means that the supply will in the medium term catch up with demand and prices will come back down to earth.

ima.tumblr.com (@imsothin) (m bison), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

no offense but i feel like ur missin the key "solar-powered lawn mowers" element of the sprawl puzzle m bison

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:17 (twelve years ago) link

4 srs tho imma get that mower up to highway speeds and blaze past urban density tomorrow

ima.tumblr.com (@imsothin) (m bison), Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

fyi when we all move to new hampshire, if your human nature requires you to have a lawn, u can be the foreman on one of the farms where all the teenagers are forced to work

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

my human nature compels me to have acres of elaborately maintained gardens w/ topiary statues of knights and dragons, sorry

Lamp, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

two words: solar-powered hedge trimmer

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

i make the interns use steel clippers to learn abt the value of 'sweat equity'

Lamp, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

when u think about it... arent we all "solar-powered"?

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

not vampires

Lamp, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

i think there has to be a move away from big castle in the country vampires and towards the more communal urban living of say the lost boys vampires

zvookster, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

i think that the recent herzog doc underworld: rise of the lycans makes that exact case, also that the current vampire lifestyle relies on an unethical and unsustainable demand for cheap werewolf labor and subsidized blood

Lamp, Sunday, 18 September 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

i live in america, and generally there's more crime in cities. obv density doesn't cause crime, though

With the exception of a handful of cities (like whichever one is the current "murder capital"), this is patently untrue for serious crimes!

mh, Sunday, 18 September 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

huge cities of millions of people are also recent 'inventions'! is it really unfathomable that some people (mr aerosmith being one, myself another) have very negative responses towards some aspects of modern city life yet also don't want to live in Bumblefuck? going 'no no really guys, you don't truly ~want~ lawns and dogs, come back to the city and de-isolate, it'll be super' just isn't going to work.

what you ~want~ doesn't matter in the long-term, or rather, is always going to have to be put in perspective of 'what we can afford'. 'afford 'both in the personal financial sense and 'afford' in the greater, 'what kind of lifestyle is going to sustainable for coming generations'. the goal should be for those 'afford's to overlap. can you afford $13 a gallon for gas?

(http://catalystmagazine.com/component/content/article/45/1128-pay-at-the-pump-uncovering-the-true-cost-of-gasoline)

iatee, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

will stay in suburbs just so i don't have to be around people like max tbh

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

can you afford $13 a gallon for gas?

actually yes. but nowhere am i saying that suburbs as they are now are sustainable.

so have all car-based suburbs either convert to public trans-based ones or die; get rid of those zoning laws too, and?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

and what, that sounds good to me

iatee, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

and solar-powered lawnmowers

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

granny dainger what are the pros of having a lawn

― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:37 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

Je55e, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

having a need for a solar powered lawnmower, obv

Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

ok then!
max are you not realizing that my 3 pt plan was tongue-in-cheek and meant to be funny or??

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

keeping max at a lawn-sized distance

xp

horseshoe, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

wait does that mean the whole thing about your sister living in a suburban train station was also a joke

Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

jokes are funny, I get jokes. so glad to know that you're actually against suburbs, granny, and that this whole thing was a wind-up!

Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

its really hard to tell the difference between your "tongue-in-cheek" posts and your "real" posts on this thread b/c theyre all similarly defensive and point-missing

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

hey why don't you tell me why millions and millions of people like having lawns, it's just SO mystifying!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

god why would i be defensive against a raging smuck fuck like yourself?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

thats what im trying to figure out!

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

who likes to "make people angry"?? mystifying!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

so much sarcasm!!! cant really figure out whats going on!!!!????

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

what happened? I am confused.

Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

I'm trying to follow it myself...I think max refuses to mow granny's lawn, but granny is rich and can afford $13/g gas

iatee, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

i am against car-dependent suburbs. i am also against urbanites who are callous towards people who don't want to live in urban areas and who would never have to make the sacrifice of living somewhere they don't want to because it just so happens they love cities.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

I find it a very compelling argument that because granny dainger can afford to pay $13 a gallon for gas, that the America government should continue its policies subsidizing and encouraging the development of suburbs, why, because granny dainger can afford to pay $13 a gallon for gas

Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not rich. my commute is 5 miles, and i can take the train to go places. suburbs are crazy huh.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

dont worry, u will change ur tune at the re-education camps in the united states of new hampshire

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

granny all I'm trying to get you to say is "a. yeah this is probably unsustainable and b. american public policy should bet set in a manner that disincentivizes unsustainable lifestyles." I don't care if you like or don't like suburbs, or if you like or dislike lawns. the point is...that's not the point.

iatee, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

the America government should continue its policies subsidizing and encouraging the development of suburbs

let me hold your hand lil boy and walk you through this. wait ok here, lemme post this for the 3rd time and maybe it'll sink in:

so have all car-based suburbs either convert to public trans-based ones or die; get rid of those zoning laws too, and?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

i dont care what happens to granny as long as i can keep my castle and gardens

Lamp, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

yeah this is probably unsustainable and b. american public policy should bet set in a manner that disincentivizes unsustainable lifestyles.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

but max and dayo feel free to continue to think i'm against to continue their awesome zingathon

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

awesome, I'm glad that's settled. let's go play golf

Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

ok i can ~walk~ across the street and meet you at the course

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

that's actually my lawn

iatee, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

stop holding iatees hand

max, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

everyone should be embarrassed by what is going on itt

J0rdan S., Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

j0rdan isn't allowed on my lawn

iatee, Sunday, 18 September 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link


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